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November 08, 2016, 06:42:50 PM
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what happened to the bitcointalk account estimator?
how many times I tried, always see "Request Queuing failed. Please try again."
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November 08, 2016, 07:09:27 PM
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what happened to the bitcointalk account estimator?
how many times I tried, always see "Request Queuing failed. Please try again."
That means that the db got too big. It should be fixed now; I cleared the db.

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November 18, 2016, 11:57:20 AM
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Does the account pricer count white spaces? Just curious how well the pricer estimates Average character count per post.
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November 18, 2016, 12:02:10 PM
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Does the account pricer count white spaces? Just curious how well the pricer estimates Average character count per post.

Spaces are characters too , only quotes are excluded from the counting . From OP :
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pqm (post quality multiplier) determined by ratio of good posts (>75 characters excluding quoted text) to bad posts (<75 characters excluding quotes)

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November 18, 2016, 02:35:18 PM
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Does the account pricer count white spaces? Just curious how well the pricer estimates Average character count per post.

Spaces are characters too , only quotes are excluded from the counting . From OP :
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pqm (post quality multiplier) determined by ratio of good posts (>75 characters excluding quoted text) to bad posts (<75 characters excluding quotes)



Thanks for clearing this us. I was counting my characters for purpose of raising my post quality. I was counting it without the white spaces. Good to know. Thanks MadGamer!
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November 18, 2016, 03:04:37 PM
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Thanks for clearing this us. I was counting my characters for purpose of raising my post quality. I was counting it without the white spaces. Good to know. Thanks MadGamer!
DO NOT DO THAT. Do not count your characters to increase your post quality for this site. The post quality indicator on this site is ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS. When you are trying to pad your posts with extra characters, your post will be considered spammy resulting in it being deleted and eventually you being banned.



I Will be removing the post quality from the output. The quality will still be factored into the estimation but you will not be able to see it. I will also be changing that part of the algorithm slightly

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November 18, 2016, 04:03:41 PM
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Thanks for clearing this us. I was counting my characters for purpose of raising my post quality. I was counting it without the white spaces. Good to know. Thanks MadGamer!
DO NOT DO THAT. Do not count your characters to increase your post quality for this site. The post quality indicator on this site is ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS. When you are trying to pad your posts with extra characters, your post will be considered spammy resulting in it being deleted and eventually you being banned.



I Will be removing the post quality from the output. The quality will still be factored into the estimation but you will not be able to see it. I will also be changing that part of the algorithm slightly

Not that I am cheating the system and padding my post. I am trying my best to keep my post quality to a certain level so that when I am able to join some signature campaign, the manager would not deny me for purposes of having a bad post quality.

I try my best also to contribute to the topic the best I can and avoid spam. So no worries there.
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November 18, 2016, 04:12:05 PM
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Not that I am cheating the system and padding my post. I am trying my best to keep my post quality to a certain level so that when I am able to join some signature campaign, the manager would not deny me for purposes of having a bad post quality.

I try my best also to contribute to the topic the best I can and avoid spam. So no worries there.
Post quality should not be determined by just the size of your post. The only reason it is done here is because that is the easiest way to gauge post quality, but it is most certainly not definitive nor accurate. Do not try to get your post quality on this site to be higher, it is completely and absolutely useless and meaningless. Just post constructively and do not spam; generally when that happens you end up with longer posts (but not necessarily) and your post quality as determined by a human will be much better than when determined by a machine.

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November 18, 2016, 08:50:54 PM
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Post quality should not be determined by just the size of your post. The only reason it is done here is because that is the easiest way to gauge post quality, but it is most certainly not definitive nor accurate.

Now I understand why some Gonzos here do full quotes  of long posts only to add a "Well done!" or similar.

I'm sure you will find a better algorithm yourself, but in case you'd like some input, feel free to PM me. I have done some "text quality metrics" in the past, so maybe you could get some inspiration from that.


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November 18, 2016, 09:34:30 PM
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Now I understand why some Gonzos here do full quotes  of long posts only to add a "Well done!" or similar.
Well the post quality counter does ignore quoted text so those quote pyramids don't help them. I also updated it to exclude all whitespace so people don't try to cheat it by adding a ton of spaces to the end.

I'm sure you will find a better algorithm yourself, but in case you'd like some input, feel free to PM me. I have done some "text quality metrics" in the past, so maybe you could get some inspiration from that.
Sure, help would be nice.

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November 22, 2016, 12:44:49 AM
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Thanks for clearing this us. I was counting my characters for purpose of raising my post quality. I was counting it without the white spaces. Good to know. Thanks MadGamer!
DO NOT DO THAT. Do not count your characters to increase your post quality for this site. The post quality indicator on this site is ABSOLUTELY MEANINGLESS. When you are trying to pad your posts with extra characters, your post will be considered spammy resulting in it being deleted and eventually you being banned.



I Will be removing the post quality from the output. The quality will still be factored into the estimation but you will not be able to see it. I will also be changing that part of the algorithm slightly

why post quality in remove the system
i think feature post quality is very good and nice feature

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November 22, 2016, 12:51:55 AM
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why post quality in remove the system
i think feature post quality is very good and nice feature
Because the post quality thing is absolute crap. Furthermore, people have been using it to "prove" that they have good post quality when they most certainly do not. Thus I have removed the display of the post quality. It is still factored into the price estimation.

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November 23, 2016, 10:04:38 PM
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why post quality in remove the system
i think feature post quality is very good and nice feature
Because the post quality thing is absolute crap. Furthermore, people have been using it to "prove" that they have good post quality when they most certainly do not. Thus I have removed the display of the post quality. It is still factored into the price estimation.

I liked pretty much that feature. What I propose you is to make it come back, but calling it in another way, like average posts lenght. Some campaigns are calling you to make posts with more than a given number of caracters and that might still help in that case.

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November 23, 2016, 10:19:42 PM
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Does the account pricer count white spaces? Just curious how well the pricer estimates Average character count per post.

Spaces are characters too , only quotes are excluded from the counting . From OP :
Code:
pqm (post quality multiplier) determined by ratio of good posts (>75 characters excluding quoted text) to bad posts (<75 characters excluding quotes)



Thanks for clearing this us. I was counting my characters for purpose of raising my post quality. I was counting it without the white spaces. Good to know. Thanks MadGamer!

OMG What the fuck?

You don't increase your post quality by counting your characters. You just revealed yourself as a spammer and that's not good at all.

I think the dev should remove that post quality thing there. If it doesn't mean anything, it shouldn't be there.

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November 23, 2016, 10:22:40 PM
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OMG What the fuck?

You don't increase your post quality by counting your characters. You just revealed yourself as a spammer and that's not good at all.
Exactly.

I think the dev should remove that post quality thing there. If it doesn't mean anything, it shouldn't be there.
It's gone

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November 23, 2016, 10:24:14 PM
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I think the dev should remove that post quality thing there. If it doesn't mean anything, it shouldn't be there.

Its already gone. I have to say I liked it. Mainly because it was a little joke for me. I dont remember what exactly I was classified as, "fair" or something.

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November 23, 2016, 10:50:08 PM
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I liked pretty much that feature. What I propose you is to make it come back, but calling it in another way, like average posts lenght. Some campaigns are calling you to make posts with more than a given number of caracters and that might still help in that case.
Nonsense. Stop using this feature in order to give a false sense of post quality to encourage higher prices in account trading. The resulting post quality had nothing to do with the actual real world post quality. It was primarily based on the length, and shitposters were actually given very good ratings. Thankfully it is now deleted and it should as such.

Its already gone. I have to say I liked it. Mainly because it was a little joke for me. I dont remember what exactly I was classified as, "fair" or something.
Obviously it was a joke, and only used by spammers and account farmers as an *actual measurement* of post quality.

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November 23, 2016, 11:15:12 PM
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I liked pretty much that feature. What I propose you is to make it come back, but calling it in another way, like average posts lenght. Some campaigns are calling you to make posts with more than a given number of caracters and that might still help in that case.
Nonsense. Stop using this feature in order to give a false sense of post quality to encourage higher prices in account trading. The resulting post quality had nothing to do with the actual real world post quality. It was primarily based on the length, and shitposters were actually given very good ratings. Thankfully it is now deleted and it should as such.

Its already gone. I have to say I liked it. Mainly because it was a little joke for me. I dont remember what exactly I was classified as, "fair" or something.
Obviously it was a joke, and only used by spammers and account farmers as an *actual measurement* of post quality.
If someone got high result from that, it doesn't means that he is spammer. Personally I receive 98% good quality post and than what? I am spammer? No, I don't think so about myself.
Also it don't has any great meaning if there will be that function or not, also trading with accounts isn't good and we don't conduce them but also at the same time people always do prohibited things.

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November 24, 2016, 12:48:59 AM
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I think the dev should remove that post quality thing there. If it doesn't mean anything, it shouldn't be there.

Its already gone. I have to say I liked it. Mainly because it was a little joke for me. I dont remember what exactly I was classified as, "fair" or something.

It really was. I was dubbed "Excellent", and when I looked at an account which had hundreds of less-than-one-liners, they also named the same.


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Alright 1 post and my estimated value is BTC0.00135000. 1000 posts and I'm worth over BTC1!?  Cheesy
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