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February 02, 2016, 12:00:35 AM
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Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Qf6. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

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Game 2 PGN:
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1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6
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February 02, 2016, 07:06:41 AM
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Kb1: 1 vote (boolberry)
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February 02, 2016, 07:20:22 AM
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Rdg1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

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February 02, 2016, 11:01:49 AM
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If we do not want to trade Queens we have to prevent Qf4+.

Kb1: 2 votes (boolberry, Morecoin Freeman)
Rdg1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

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February 02, 2016, 12:39:40 PM
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If we do not want to trade Queens we have to prevent Qf4+.

Kb1: 2 votes (boolberry, Morecoin Freeman)
Rdg1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

Black can still force a queen trade if they wish with 15.Kb1 Qf4 16.Ng5 Qh4 17.Qxh4 Nxh4.  I prefer this for us over 15.Rdg1 Qf4+ 16.Qxf4 Nxf4 because in the Rdg1 line blacks knight ends up on a much better square.

Kb1: 3 votes (boolberry, Morecoin Freeman, languagehasmeaning)
Rdg1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

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February 03, 2016, 12:00:02 AM
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Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play Kb1. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

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Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:
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1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1
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February 03, 2016, 03:01:59 AM
Last edit: February 03, 2016, 03:16:20 AM by XMRpromotions
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Thank you Boolberry for starting this thread and encouraging cooperation not competition among our overlapping communities.

Some people may wonder why I frequently Tweet support for Aeon and Boolberry (helping them request Shapeshift listings, etc). I do not think of them as competitors but as fellow CryptoNote innovators with overlapping communities. The developers of each coin has benefited (either by adopting or deciding to avoid or modify) an innovation of another.  5 years from now if CryptoNote with RingCT is an industry leading standard Monero will surely have achieved great success. Aeon and Boolberry have no chance to cause Monero to fail (if we fail it will be for other reasons) but they can help us test innovative new CryptoNote ideas and build economies of scale for CryptoNote trading and merchant adoption.

Just today Boolberry forwarded me a valuable merchant lead (because Monero has a larger community and may provide more potential customers to this merchant). The work smooth is doing for Aeon will help future Monero development.  Lets continue helping each other to advance CryptoNote to ensure it stays ahead of the competition!

p.s. I still want to win this chess game and think Monero is off to a great start!

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February 03, 2016, 04:51:15 AM
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Thank you Boolberry for starting this thread and encouraging cooperation not competition among our overlapping communities.

Some people may wonder why I frequently Tweet support for Aeon and Boolberry (helping them request Shapeshift listings, etc). I do not think of them as competitors but as fellow CryptoNote innovators with overlapping communities. The developers of each coin has benefited (either by adopting or deciding to avoid or modify) an innovation of another.  5 years from now if CryptoNote with RingCT is an industry leading standard Monero will surely have achieved great success. Aeon and Boolberry have no chance to cause Monero to fail (if we fail it will be for other reasons) but they can help us test innovative new CryptoNote ideas and build economies of scale for CryptoNote trading and merchant adoption.

Just today Boolberry forwarded me a valuable merchant lead (because Monero has a larger community and may provide more potential customers to this merchant). The work smooth is doing for Aeon will help future Monero development.  Lets continue helping each other to advance CryptoNote to ensure it stays ahead of the competition!

p.s. I still want to win this chess game and think Monero is off to a great start!

Nf4: 1 vote (XMRpromotions)

Completely agree. With all the fighting between different cryptocurrencies it is nice to see people getting along here!

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Qf4: 1 vote (newb4now)
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February 03, 2016, 07:43:01 AM
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Nf4: 2 votes (XMRpromotions, mathgal23)
Qf4: 1 vote (newb4now)
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February 03, 2016, 09:53:34 PM
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Nf4: 3 votes (XMRpromotions, mathgal23, letsplayagame)
Qf4: 1 vote (newb4now)

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February 03, 2016, 11:55:30 PM
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Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Nf4. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. We will count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

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Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:
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1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 
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February 03, 2016, 11:56:47 PM
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Sorry @boolberry, posted just a few minutes before our deadline as the move seem to be set.

I was just excited to see @letsplayagame sport an XMR address in his signature  Grin Grin
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February 04, 2016, 12:02:19 AM
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Sorry @boolberry, posted just a few minutes before our deadline as the move seem to be set.

I was just excited to see @letsplayagame sport an XMR address in his signature  Grin Grin

I don't mind at all! Yes it is nice to see more people support CryptoNote. I might even send him a tip:)
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February 04, 2016, 12:21:48 AM
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We need to prevent the threat of Nxe2 and Qxf3

Ng5: 1 vote (boolberry)
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February 04, 2016, 12:23:20 AM
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Ng5: 2 votes (boolberry, Morecoin)

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February 04, 2016, 01:08:56 AM
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Nxe2 is hardly a threat. I'd like to open up that file regardless of what captures our f pawn. I'm still working on some lines.
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February 04, 2016, 01:34:06 AM
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Ng5: 2 votes (boolberry, Morecoin)
Bf1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

I think that Ng5 is the way to exchange Queens (something that we are trying to avoid, right?). If 16.Ng5, then 16. ... Qh8, forcing the Queen's exchange.

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February 04, 2016, 02:13:59 AM
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You are right GoldTiger69 I want to prevent trading Queens as well. Now that I looked more into the variations I see that we can do that and be in a good position. The lines I looked at are for: Bf1, Nd2, Ne1 and Ng1.

Ng5: 1 vote (boolberry)
Bf1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nd2: 1 vote (Morecoin)

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February 04, 2016, 02:18:39 AM
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Sorry @boolberry, posted just a few minutes before our deadline as the move seem to be set.

I was just excited to see @letsplayagame sport an XMR address in his signature  Grin Grin

I was happy to see that but would love it if he added a BBR address to his sig too!

You are right GoldTiger69 I want to prevent trading Queens as well. Now that I looked more into the variations I see that we can do that and be in a good position. The lines I looked at are for: Bf1, Nd2, Ne1 and Ng1.

Ng5: 1 vote (boolberry)
Bf1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nd2: 1 vote (Morecoin)

I do not like the endgame after 16.Ng5 Qh8 either

Ng5: 1 vote (boolberry)
Bf1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nd2: 2 votes (Morecoin, languagehasmeaning)
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February 04, 2016, 02:48:15 AM
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Tbh with you guys, I think that the Queens exchange after 16.Ng5 Qh8, 17.QxQ KxQ 18.Bg4 looks very promising to white, don't you think?

So, I'm going to change my vote (If that is not allowed, just ignore me, I'm still learning the rules of this topic)

Ng5: 2 vote (boolberry, GoldTiger69)
Nd2: 1 vote (Morecoin)

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