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December 20, 2017, 01:48:18 PM
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Holding Bitcoin or gold are keep the valuation of their money. Sometime it could brings us profits due to the volatility .
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December 20, 2017, 02:10:57 PM
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Gold is a good option for long-term investment. But it's not as easy to sell as another currency or bitcoin. Cryptocurrency can be sold instantly, but its high volatility is a significant disadvantage.

I don't agree that Gold is good to invest in long term ( i'm arguing your opinion ) but for me i choose gold for my investment because if you can see the value or price is higher than gold, so if you invest that you can gain more profit frome it. Anyways, i agree in bitcoin you can instantly sold out or sell your bitcoin rather than gold.
I think for long term investment it does not mean to hold bitcoin decades, from long term investment it means to hold bitcoin for 3 to 4 years, and i think the next few years will hopefully be the best time for investment in bitcoin. Because still bitcoin is in beginning stage and still a lot of people have to invest money in bitcoin therefore its price will continue increasing for next few years.
It really depends on us whether we wanted to secure ourselves and hold our bitcoin for a long time or just for a couple of months, basically what I am doing is whenever I do have profit I en cashed some of my bitcoin and use it for opening even a small business so that I can maximize my profit.
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December 20, 2017, 02:18:44 PM
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I think both are great speculations. Both have immense whales, however so does everything else to be completely forthright. In any event with bitcoin whales have no influence over aggregate supply and it is settled.

With gold... imagine a scenario where immense mines are found. or on the other hand some space rock once we have propelled innovation? that makes me somewhat stressed as long as possible.

I would likewise rather have individuals that just purchased BTC inexpensively in light of the fact that they loved the thought as opposed to a few warlords that stacked huge amounts of gold through hundreds of years.
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December 20, 2017, 02:21:28 PM
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The world is run by the state-bank alliance.  The top politicians and bankers jointly profit from inflating the values of money and debt with state power -- this system couldn't survive without either side.

See Dissecting the Parasitocracy.

The interesting thing is, if you buy and hold gold and Bitcoin for the long term, you can benefit.  (Just make sure you don't buy when the global empire is rising, like the 1950s or early 1990s.)  The reason is also due to the nature of the state-bank alliance.

Note that, in this alliance, the top politicians contribute state power, while the top bankers contribute financial know-how.  The politicians, being totally ignorant in this high-stakes and specialized game, are basically led around like children.  They just go along because they benefit from issuing huge amounts of public debt without being punished by the 'markets.'

So here's the problem with this alliance.  When financial asset values collapse (and this day will come, due to the incentives faced by the elites) and everyday people suffer, the politicians will put all the blame on the bankers.  The reasons are obvious (and there is no loyalty in that game,) and the politicians are going to win that argument.  The biggest such events in history include the Spanish Inquisition and the Nazi Holocaust.  In our day, politicians like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have already gone after the bankers.

Knowing that, the bankers and central bankers must prepare a last-ditch rescue for a worst-case scenario, when all trust in the system is gone.  That rescue will be some non-state-issued asset, like gold, silver, and Bitcoin, that the elites can peg their money to (at a high price for the non-state asset,) stabilize their system, and ease the suffering.  Even if the bankers think there's only a small chance for such an occurrence, it will be so devastating to the bankers that they must prepare for it.

So, the elites will try to suppress non-state assets, but won't kill them, even when given a chance.  In the long run, this presents something like a one-way bet for these assets, at current prices.
Indeed. I do really agree with you. It is really beneficial holding either Bitcoin and Gold for a long time and gain your benefits when those two have already raised their prices into the top making it more beneficial and has the greater possibility to gain and earn an instant income from the profit you can get from your initial holding quantity. I bet that was also the main reason my most people tend to hold their Bitcoin or Gold so that when the potentiality of raising the price comes, they can benefit with it.
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December 20, 2017, 03:16:45 PM
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Profit is the main reason why you should hold bitcoin and gold because when you have gold and bitcoin then you are like in a safe position in investing since bitcoin and gold are always going up and if you have both then you can earn a lot of money with those two and it is just need patience at first but it will surely pay off.



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December 20, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
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Profit is the main reason why you should hold bitcoin and gold because when you have gold and bitcoin then you are like in a safe position in investing since bitcoin and gold are always going up and if you have both then you can earn a lot of money with those two and it is just need patience at first but it will surely pay off.
its an assets to hold that will bring us good gain, better to buy both and hold, long term will give us benefits of enjoying our life
after, bitcoin still rising while gold already have its good value coming out from the market.

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December 23, 2017, 08:53:29 AM
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The world is run by the state-bank alliance.  The top politicians and bankers jointly profit from inflating the values of money and debt with state power -- this system couldn't survive without either side.

See Dissecting the Parasitocracy.

The interesting thing is, if you buy and hold gold and Bitcoin for the long term, you can benefit.  (Just make sure you don't buy when the global empire is rising, like the 1950s or early 1990s.)  The reason is also due to the nature of the state-bank alliance.

Note that, in this alliance, the top politicians contribute state power, while the top bankers contribute financial know-how.  The politicians, being totally ignorant in this high-stakes and specialized game, are basically led around like children.  They just go along because they benefit from issuing huge amounts of public debt without being punished by the 'markets.'

So here's the problem with this alliance.  When financial asset values collapse (and this day will come, due to the incentives faced by the elites) and everyday people suffer, the politicians will put all the blame on the bankers.  The reasons are obvious (and there is no loyalty in that game,) and the politicians are going to win that argument.  The biggest such events in history include the Spanish Inquisition and the Nazi Holocaust.  In our day, politicians like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have already gone after the bankers.

Knowing that, the bankers and central bankers must prepare a last-ditch rescue for a worst-case scenario, when all trust in the system is gone.  That rescue will be some non-state-issued asset, like gold, silver, and Bitcoin, that the elites can peg their money to (at a high price for the non-state asset,) stabilize their system, and ease the suffering.  Even if the bankers think there's only a small chance for such an occurrence, it will be so devastating to the bankers that they must prepare for it.

So, the elites will try to suppress non-state assets, but won't kill them, even when given a chance.  In the long run, this presents something like a one-way bet for these assets, at current prices.

The reason is gold will never be old and will never be out of style because gold are nature made not artificial because bitcoins are just a phenomenal thing and when that thing is already over the money will not come to that while gold they will never be out of date because that is gonna last forever and that thing will be out of supply in the future and if you have a gold investment and when the time comes that gold will be ration, the value of your gold will be worth a lot.
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December 23, 2017, 12:06:38 PM
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The world is run by the state-bank alliance.  The top politicians and bankers jointly profit from inflating the values of money and debt with state power -- this system couldn't survive without either side.

See Dissecting the Parasitocracy.

The interesting thing is, if you buy and hold gold and Bitcoin for the long term, you can benefit.  (Just make sure you don't buy when the global empire is rising, like the 1950s or early 1990s.)  The reason is also due to the nature of the state-bank alliance.

Note that, in this alliance, the top politicians contribute state power, while the top bankers contribute financial know-how.  The politicians, being totally ignorant in this high-stakes and specialized game, are basically led around like children.  They just go along because they benefit from issuing huge amounts of public debt without being punished by the 'markets.'

So here's the problem with this alliance.  When financial asset values collapse (and this day will come, due to the incentives faced by the elites) and everyday people suffer, the politicians will put all the blame on the bankers.  The reasons are obvious (and there is no loyalty in that game,) and the politicians are going to win that argument.  The biggest such events in history include the Spanish Inquisition and the Nazi Holocaust.  In our day, politicians like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have already gone after the bankers.

Knowing that, the bankers and central bankers must prepare a last-ditch rescue for a worst-case scenario, when all trust in the system is gone.  That rescue will be some non-state-issued asset, like gold, silver, and Bitcoin, that the elites can peg their money to (at a high price for the non-state asset,) stabilize their system, and ease the suffering.  Even if the bankers think there's only a small chance for such an occurrence, it will be so devastating to the bankers that they must prepare for it.

So, the elites will try to suppress non-state assets, but won't kill them, even when given a chance.  In the long run, this presents something like a one-way bet for these assets, at current prices.
Indeed. I do really agree with you. It is really beneficial holding either Bitcoin and Gold for a long time and gain your benefits when those two have already raised their prices into the top making it more beneficial and has the greater possibility to gain and earn an instant income from the profit you can get from your initial holding quantity. I bet that was also the main reason my most people tend to hold their Bitcoin or Gold so that when the potentiality of raising the price comes, they can benefit with it.
This is not right time to cash your bitcoin and as you said it is all up to us so yes I am agree with you that bitcoin is now acceptable for all people and if bitcoin will not be invested by us then it will be in risk. I know bitcoin is famous and people trust bitcoin more than any other investment and savings. If you are cashing your bitcoin to start your business set up then you are doing well. So cash it but try to buy it again soon with your profit from business.
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December 24, 2017, 10:41:44 PM
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Profit is the main reason why you should hold bitcoin and gold because when you have gold and bitcoin then you are like in a safe position in investing since bitcoin and gold are always going up and if you have both then you can earn a lot of money with those two and it is just need patience at first but it will surely pay off.
its an assets to hold that will bring us good gain, better to buy both and hold, long term will give us benefits of enjoying our life
after, bitcoin still rising while gold already have its good value coming out from the market.
In my opinion, for those who don't trust the bank, Gold is the best choice to saving money. Not like real estate, stock or cryptocurrency, the price of Gold can keep high price in long time and its value was stable in few years.

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December 25, 2017, 06:04:25 PM
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Profit is the main reason why you should hold bitcoin and gold because when you have gold and bitcoin then you are like in a safe position in investing since bitcoin and gold are always going up and if you have both then you can earn a lot of money with those two and it is just need patience at first but it will surely pay off.
its an assets to hold that will bring us good gain, better to buy both and hold, long term will give us benefits of enjoying our life
after, bitcoin still rising while gold already have its good value coming out from the market.
In my opinion, for those who don't trust the bank, Gold is the best choice to saving money. Not like real estate, stock or cryptocurrency, the price of Gold can keep high price in long time and its value was stable in few years.
I am not at all in favor of holing of gold, the market value of gold is quite stable in nature since a long period of time. There is no significant increase in the price of gold. In fact, it is better to keep your money in your bank instead of holding of gold. On the other hand, if you go for holding of bitcoin, then this will actually help you in getting a huge amount of money as the market value of bitcoin is increasing with every passing moment.
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December 25, 2017, 08:58:23 PM
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Gold and bitcoin are good investment, bitcoin still in early stage and unstable but it has the potential to grow bigger than gold, storing gold is good for long term investment, gold will always be valuable and will never be banned, investing in bitcoin got more risk than gold and invest in gold and bitcoin are better than fiat
The real reason to hold bitcoin and gold are it has both have a value. It's actually like an investment. Although both have different advantage and disadvantage, but still it's worth holding this two kind of asset. Holding and collecting gold through a jewelry is meaningful. It's worldwide accepted and will never fade. Bitcoin also is valuable. Even though it's not totally accepted in other country and still in the process of experimental but the good thing is it's price is unstoppable. It keeps on growing up every now and then. So I prefer to hold this two assets of mine.
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December 25, 2017, 09:28:21 PM
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Gold and bitcoin are good investment, bitcoin still in early stage and unstable but it has the potential to grow bigger than gold, storing gold is good for long term investment, gold will always be valuable and will never be banned, investing in bitcoin got more risk than gold and invest in gold and bitcoin are better than fiat
The real reason to hold bitcoin and gold are it has both have a value. It's actually like an investment. Although both have different advantage and disadvantage, but still it's worth holding this two kind of asset. Holding and collecting gold through a jewelry is meaningful. It's worldwide accepted and will never fade. Bitcoin also is valuable. Even though it's not totally accepted in other country and still in the process of experimental but the good thing is it's price is unstoppable. It keeps on growing up every now and then. So I prefer to hold this two assets of mine.
But looks like golds are for stable value purpose and Bitcoins for the profit purpose ? Isn't it ?
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December 25, 2017, 09:44:27 PM
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The world is run by the state-bank alliance.  The top politicians and bankers jointly profit from inflating the values of money and debt with state power -- this system couldn't survive without either side.

See Dissecting the Parasitocracy.

The interesting thing is, if you buy and hold gold and Bitcoin for the long term, you can benefit.  (Just make sure you don't buy when the global empire is rising, like the 1950s or early 1990s.)  The reason is also due to the nature of the state-bank alliance.

Note that, in this alliance, the top politicians contribute state power, while the top bankers contribute financial know-how.  The politicians, being totally ignorant in this high-stakes and specialized game, are basically led around like children.  They just go along because they benefit from issuing huge amounts of public debt without being punished by the 'markets.'

So here's the problem with this alliance.  When financial asset values collapse (and this day will come, due to the incentives faced by the elites) and everyday people suffer, the politicians will put all the blame on the bankers.  The reasons are obvious (and there is no loyalty in that game,) and the politicians are going to win that argument.  The biggest such events in history include the Spanish Inquisition and the Nazi Holocaust.  In our day, politicians like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have already gone after the bankers.

Knowing that, the bankers and central bankers must prepare a last-ditch rescue for a worst-case scenario, when all trust in the system is gone.  That rescue will be some non-state-issued asset, like gold, silver, and Bitcoin, that the elites can peg their money to (at a high price for the non-state asset,) stabilize their system, and ease the suffering.  Even if the bankers think there's only a small chance for such an occurrence, it will be so devastating to the bankers that they must prepare for it.

So, the elites will try to suppress non-state assets, but won't kill them, even when given a chance.  In the long run, this presents something like a one-way bet for these assets, at current prices.
I think holding bitcoin than gold is much better now but in bitcoin you need to take the big risk because the value is not normal because bitcoin is volatily currency you should need to win sk patience is a must for bitcoins.
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December 26, 2017, 12:57:11 AM
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The real reason is that they have limited supply, and people want them. (people may not want bitcoin in the future btw) People always want gold and they want to gather as much as possible in their lifetime. It is the only solid asset which holds its true value through the centuries.

What about when we start asteroid mining or surveying asteroids with the future threat of mining? there are asteroids in our solar system that contain more metals/gold than we have mined here on earth..

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December 26, 2017, 02:23:07 AM
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I hold bitcoin because at this time bitcoin is the most profitable investment, only in a month we can profit more than 10% and if we compare with saving in the bank takes a year to profit 10% while hold gold because the most easy investment to sell anytime.
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December 26, 2017, 02:25:33 AM
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The real reason is that they have limited supply, and people want them. (people may not want bitcoin in the future btw) People always want gold and they want to gather as much as possible in their lifetime. It is the only solid asset which holds its true value through the centuries.

What about when we start asteroid mining or surveying asteroids with the future threat of mining? there are asteroids in our solar system that contain more metals/gold than we have mined here on earth..
 

Good point. I imagine gold that can be purchased as cheap as one hollowblocks or any piece of you house. And then you have bitcoin that have only a low supply that means higher price because of huge demand.
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December 26, 2017, 02:41:00 AM
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The reason why its good to hold bitcoin and gold because it cannot be depreciated and a good investments for a long time.A better asset to hold for a long period of time,and it is the most profitable income in the future.
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January 04, 2018, 07:15:46 AM
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Maybe both are the best, bitcoin is  getting higher and higher when it comes to value,  and gold is also so much expensive.

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January 04, 2018, 12:17:11 PM
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For me the real reason to hold gold and bitcoin is because the value of it is not stable, so it's have a big chance that the value of it will totally rise very high or will pump very high in the future, and i am confident that holding gold and bitcoin is very good strategy to make or earn many profit maybe x2 or x3.
I think bitcoin will give you that kind of profit because the price of gold is almost stable unlike with bitcoin the price is continuously changing to a much higher price. By just holding bitcoin for a couple of months you can have x2 or higher profit because as we can see with the history of the price of bitcoin, how much it went up for just a few months.

You are right there, for me its good to hold gold since its also a good investment but the best would be bitcoin even though the price is fluctuating but once its rise up its going to be worth it. Its more profitable than gold.
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January 04, 2018, 12:27:22 PM
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The value of gold does not fluctuate much compared to the bitcoin gold with stable bitcoin market that can be priced by a whale at any time. But bitcoin will be the future of electronic money and higher value than gold.
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