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Author Topic: [ANN] [SUMO] SUMOKOIN - 🔏 Digital Cash For Highly-Confidential Transactions 🔏  (Read 202490 times)
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February 19, 2018, 02:47:44 PM
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Is Sumokoin able to repel attacks like Monero V's that threaten Monero's anonymity?
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February 19, 2018, 02:56:10 PM
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Is Sumokoin able to repel attacks like Monero V's that threaten Monero's anonymity?

Well according to this
https://btcmanager.com/monerov-trap-laid-monero-users/
(end of the article at the "Conclusion" part)
As for a concrete solution to chain split attacks, a higher minimum enforced ring size could be the answer. Ehrenhofer, along with Brandon Goodell, recommends a higher ring size and increasing this figure from five to eight, but comes with the cost of increasing fees and transaction sizes, “For a modest increase in fees and transaction size, we can be much more assured that Monero’s ring signatures are prepared for large chain split attacks.” Goodell proposed a range between eight and 16. With a ring signature of eight, every transaction will have eight signatures instead of five and eight possible inputs for one actual input spent, providing greater obfuscation. The attractiveness of this solution is that it is easily implemented.


Sumokoin has by default and since day one, 12 mixins which means a ringsize value of 13, also Sumokoin has a young chain with still small fees while bulletproofs implementation will keep the chain and fees at the current levels so this high ring value doesnt have any serious negative effects on its chain size and fees.
So I guess the answer is no, I think Sumokoin is secure from such kind of issues

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February 19, 2018, 03:07:59 PM
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Is Sumokoin able to repel attacks like Monero V's that threaten Monero's anonymity?

Well according to this
https://btcmanager.com/monerov-trap-laid-monero-users/
(end of the article at the "Conclusion" part)
As for a concrete solution to chain split attacks, a higher minimum enforced ring size could be the answer. Ehrenhofer, along with Brandon Goodell, recommends a higher ring size and increasing this figure from five to eight, but comes with the cost of increasing fees and transaction sizes, “For a modest increase in fees and transaction size, we can be much more assured that Monero’s ring signatures are prepared for large chain split attacks.” Goodell proposed a range between eight and 16. With a ring signature of eight, every transaction will have eight signatures instead of five and eight possible inputs for one actual input spent, providing greater obfuscation. The attractiveness of this solution is that it is easily implemented.


Sumokoin has by default and since day one, 12 mixins which means a ringsize value of 13, also Sumokoin has a young chain with still small fees while bulletproofs implementation will keep the chain and fees at the current levels so this high ring value doesnt have any serious negative effects on its chain size and fees.
So I guess the answer is no, I think Sumokoin is secure from such kind of issues

Hmm, interesting. This means that the fud from Monero crowd was a lie. Great that Sumo is safe according to this.
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February 19, 2018, 03:24:25 PM
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Let Monero's problem be Monero's and Sumo's Sumo's.

By the way, for anyone who missed it:

Retweet this tweet to try to win any of the 20 supernifty Sumokoin Paper Wallet holders!! (also has room for microsd card):
https://twitter.com/SuperShiller/status/964786667596009472
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February 19, 2018, 03:31:04 PM
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MoneroV seems to be a  surprising and necessary fork after all.
How did the Monero entire community and dev team haven't seen this flaw the whole time?

The article is somewhat one-sided, but the parts and quotes from their team are reasonable.
As time passes, I support these guys more and more.
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February 19, 2018, 06:00:25 PM
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So xmr has another babycoin to fud... nice  Cheesy

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February 19, 2018, 08:19:02 PM
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So xmr has another babycoin to fud... nice  Cheesy

Actually I think that the Monero V guys unintenionally dag up an XMR vulnerability while trying to create a coin of dubious nature ( I avoid the word scam without solid proof ). Regarding Sumokoin, this incident rendered invalid the claims of the Monero community that our higher ringsize was nonsensical.

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February 20, 2018, 01:02:09 AM
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So xmr has another babycoin to fud... nice  Cheesy

Actually I think that the Monero V guys unintenionally dag up an XMR vulnerability while trying to create a coin of dubious nature ( I avoid the word scam without solid proof ). Regarding Sumokoin, this incident rendered invalid the claims of the Monero community that our higher ringsize was nonsensical.

I was under the impression that higher ringsize doesn't mean anything at all :\, looked like it have a purpose after all.

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Last edit: February 20, 2018, 03:09:54 AM by visdude
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Sumo has been suffering from a major identity crisis. Its cheerleaders try to convince us that they are or want to be different from Monero yet they can't help compare themselves or look up to the progression of Big Daddy, Monero.

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February 20, 2018, 05:02:08 AM
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Visdude has been suffering from a major identity crisis. He tries try to convince us that is a supporting member of our community yet he can't help to to bring up the personal issues he has with some of Sumo's core members.

lol dude, get that stick out of your ass already...

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February 20, 2018, 06:06:29 AM
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Yeah you contradict yourself massively dude, you dont have to pop up every other 4 comments, settle down

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February 20, 2018, 08:57:06 AM
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Sumo has been suffering from a major identity crisis. Its cheerleaders try to convince us that they are or want to be different from Monero yet they can't help compare themselves or look up to the progression of Big Daddy, Monero.



COPY PASTA COPY PASTA COPY PASTA

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7yf80f/3d_printed_monero_paper_wallet/
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February 20, 2018, 01:45:38 PM
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I noticed that SUMO is traded on https://tradeogre.com/exchange/BTC-SUMO

Miniature volume but worth mentioning.
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February 20, 2018, 01:53:05 PM
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It looks like a good project, waiting for a presale program!
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February 20, 2018, 02:17:55 PM
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This is not an ICO... there is no presale program... Just mine or trade on cryptopia or livecoin.

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February 20, 2018, 10:39:33 PM
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I noticed that SUMO is traded on https://tradeogre.com/exchange/BTC-SUMO

Miniature volume but worth mentioning.

Should be treated with care, as I see it. It's not requested by Sumokoin and thus might not be safe? I could be wrong though.
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February 21, 2018, 01:09:01 AM
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I noticed that SUMO is traded on https://tradeogre.com/exchange/BTC-SUMO

Miniature volume but worth mentioning.

Never heard of exchange before, I would prefer to play safe and trade on well-known one or recommended by Sumokoin themselves one. Still, additional exchange means our coins are doing well!

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February 21, 2018, 07:25:00 PM
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Time is ticking out  Smiley
https://twitter.com/Sumokoin_tweet/status/965923280732545025

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February 22, 2018, 12:09:45 AM
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The CryptoNote algo for Monero is undergoing a change this March, any coin mined with old miners will not be recognised, will this affect Sumocoin in any way, will Sumocoin go the same way ?
https://getmonero.org/2018/02/11/PoW-change-and-key-reuse.html
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February 22, 2018, 05:53:38 AM
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so i've noticed there were talks for future development, but from what i see there is 0 actual code gone into this project, how can we be sure the developer can even code? right now all we have is a clone with a few parameters changed and some advertising banners made up. github is just a few random commits, remove a comma here, comment out text here, add a line here, nothing substantial which the average unskilled joe cant do with notepad.


My question is, is there anywhere we can see actual code?
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