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[dmwardjr]

However, changing from one to the other often can hurt you more than help you.  Probably best to stay with one several days before going to another if one chooses to hop from one to the other.

I edited my edit to say they are both approximately the same after factoring in the alt-coin.

[wasikidding]

how about this bad luck streak just ends now ...... lets snap off a decent 7 block day k alright night

[dmwardjr]

how about this bad luck streak just ends now ...... lets snap off a decent 7 block day k alright night

I went over to GHash when we were in our 11th hour and made a little thus far [Payments high-lighted in red].  I got tired of waiting.

19440   2014-10-10 06:25:57   324646   25.0384   1/120   5 minutes   57.48 Ph/s   6066720/75000593674   0.01%   4403012177   0.00202533
19439   2014-10-10 06:20:28   324645   25.0990   2/120   24 minutes   59.83 Ph/s   6084760/75000593284   0.01%   19711843980   0.00203627
19438   2014-10-10 05:56:53   324643   25.0289   4/120   3 minutes   57.24 Ph/s   6139320/75000592033   0.01%   2359039938   0.00204879
19437   2014-10-10 05:53:56   324642   25.0231   5/120   4 hours   58.13 Ph/s   6138000/75000591170   0.01%   191079662261   0.00204787
19436   2014-10-10 01:58:38   324630   25.0062   17/120   38 minutes   57.73 Ph/s   4896800/75000104982   0.01%   30793209668   0.00163266

I was actually conservative with my .0019..... per block average shares.  My .0019 estimate was based on 60 PH/s.  However, we were at 57.7 PH/s on average which would make my shares at the .0020 that they are.  My shares would have been at .0019.... if they had 60 PH/s going at the time.  The .0016.... was less because all of my miners were not connected yet when that block was found.

89901   2014-10-10 06:32:28   9 minutes   59.32 Ph/s   4.50 Th/s   35002482026   568920   0.008%   880 (0.15%)   7500001337
89900   2014-10-10 06:23:25   9 minutes   61.24 Ph/s   4.77 Th/s   35002482026   584320   0.008%   880 (0.15%)   7500000625
89899   2014-10-10 06:14:39   9 minutes   59.21 Ph/s   4.73 Th/s   35002482026   598840   0.008%   1760 (0.29%)   7500001125
89898   2014-10-10 06:05:34   9 minutes   58.67 Ph/s   4.65 Th/s   35002482026   594000   0.008%   0 (0%)   7500002569
89897   2014-10-10 05:56:26   10 minutes   56.32 Ph/s   4.55 Th/s   35002482026   606320   0.008%   2640 (0.43%)   7500001928
89896   2014-10-10 05:46:54   9 minutes   57.83 Ph/s   4.61 Th/s   35002482026   598400   0.008%   440 (0.07%)   7500004419
89895   2014-10-10 05:37:37   9 minutes   59.55 Ph/s   4.83 Th/s   35002482026   608520   0.008%   0 (0%)   7500323718
89894   2014-10-10 05:28:37   9 minutes   58.67 Ph/s   4.76 Th/s   35002482026   608520   0.008%   0 (0%)   7500000220
89893   2014-10-10 05:19:28   9 minutes   58.89 Ph/s   4.93 Th/s   35002482026   627440   0.008%   0 (0%)   7500003258
89892   2014-10-10 05:10:21   9 minutes   59.11 Ph/s   4.72 Th/s   35002482026   598400   0.008%   440 (0.07%)   7500255171

[rpandassociates]

Whats going on with this statistic?

Current round duration:   17:24:29
does that mean i am only going to get my estimate reward for this many hours of mining

Estimated reward: Estimated reward for current round 0.00472682 BTC

is that .004 for 17 and still going hours of hashing?

whats going on here at slushes tonight?

[dmwardjr]

Whats going on with this statistic?

Current round duration:   17:24:29
does that mean i am only going to get my estimate reward for this many hours of mining

Estimated reward: Estimated reward for current round 0.00472682 BTC

is that .004 for 17 and still going hours of hashing?

whats going on here at slushes tonight?

That is all you will get IF AND WHEN A BLOCK IS FOUND.  It would be much less than that if you were on GHash because of more miners to share with.  However, they have been finding blocks the last 5 hours that I left Slush.  Working on the 6th hour now.

[dmwardjr]

Well, Slush FINALLY found one.

They need to find one again in a matter of just a few minutes.

COME ON SLUSH!!!

I'll come back over IF they find another in less than an hour.  Otherwise, I'm staying here for 24 hours to see how it goes.

[dmwardjr]

I started out on GHash at their 1st block found for the 10th day of October.  I'm going to hang out here the entire 10th day of October just to see how it goes.

[rpandassociates]

typically in 24hrs i get .02+ BTC somethings going on at slushs right now 17 hrs for .004BTC is so not the normal at ghash in 24hrs i get atleast .02BTC typically at slush i get that as well see my earlier post a page back

I came back to slush  today after running a 24hr test at ghash only to find this 17 hr block for a whopping .004BTC ? I am scratching my head

[dmwardjr]

typically in 24hrs i get .02+ BTC somethings going on at slushs right now 17 hrs for .004BTC is so not the normal at ghash in 24hrs i get atleast .02BTC typically at slush i get that as well see my earlier post a page back

I came back to slush  today after running a 24hr test at ghash only to find this 17 hr block for a whopping .004BTC ? I am scratching my head

So, you agree with my post on the previous page as well that they pay out approximately the same IF they both are running at 100% Luck [The SAME luck.]?

Those LONG blocks tend to eat away at my shares too for some reason on Slush.  Not real bad but they do lower my shares a little more than the short blocks found.  I don't know why?

[rpandassociates]

I just dont get the payout sturcture of mining I am new to this
now its showing estimated reward 0.00480299 BTC for the current block so if this is say a 15min block then thats what I am paid ??
so you get paid that same 0.00480299 BTC based upon your hasrate and score regardless of how long a round takes?

[dmwardjr]

SWEEEEEEEEET

3 of my 6 additional S3's will be at my door step today.  FedEx tracking shows them at their facility here in Birmingham at 23:39 (just before midnight).  I already have 1 Corsair AX860 waiting for 2 of them.

My Amazon order for 2 more Corsair AX860's are also being delivered today via UPS.

I'M EXCITED!!!!!!!!

 

The other 3 S3's should be here Saturday via FedEx.  I need to finish that additional Sub Panel (Breaker Panel) quick like!!!

[dmwardjr]

I just dont get the payout sturcture of mining I am new to this
now its showing estimated reward 0.00480299 BTC for the current block so if this is say a 15min block then thats what I am paid ??
so you get paid that same 0.00480299 BTC based upon your hasrate and score regardless of how long a round takes?

YES.

You are seeing your constant shares based on your hashing power in relation to everyone else mining on the pool.

IF Slush found a block every minute [Which would be sweet] you would get that reward for every block found.

Your shares will fluctuate up and down while miners get on and off the pool during mining.

[dmwardjr]

I gotta sleep now.  See y'all in the forum tomorrow (later today), Lord willing!  Not guaranteed the next day, ya know...

[rpandassociates]

lets take a look at my recent statistics
22937   2014-10-10 06:53:33   17:40:27   115946090985   17735443   0.00475671   324650   25.03150250   99 confirmations left
22936   2014-10-09 13:13:06   6:48:13   43684750551   92392   0.00000070   324539   25.04349057   confirmed
22935   2014-10-09 06:24:53   5:42:43   38699012302   none           none           324497   25.33283836   confirmed
22934   2014-10-09 00:42:10   15:31:23   104975622407   8931643   none           324475   25.08255188   confirmed
22933   2014-10-08 09:10:47   0:48:37   5549320707   1015850   0.00458371   324391   25.00552590   confirmed
22932   2014-10-08 08:22:10   1:50:29   12526830694   2324405   0.00459182   324386   25.10238433   confirmed
22931   2014-10-08 06:31:41   8:12:14   55967681449   10392874   0.00448300   324375   25.08013922   confirmed
22930   2014-10-07 22:19:27   10:11:13   68708671030   12806513   0.00455740   324320   25.35868136   confirmed
22929   2014-10-07 12:08:14   0:15:37   1696202868   322965   0.00457133   324277   25.05056823   confirmed
22928   2014-10-07 11:52:37   8:24:27   56323309578   10550850   0.00442333   324272   25.03743928   confirmed

that brief 24 hr. period of no reward was the 24hr test i was running at ghash.io

so man if i make the same regardless of block time long blocks suck so i guess thats what gave birth to the "pool hopping stuff and all the different payout structures

I dont understand the math behind it all guess thats why I am not a mathmatician

so what makes 1 block take 17hrs and another to say the average of 3 to 5 hrs or that rare ocassion up above 48 mins dude if i made .004 x 24 hrs I would be a very happy camper definately a good roi  

 

[dmwardjr]

lets take a look at my recent statistics
22937   2014-10-10 06:53:33   17:40:27   115946090985   17735443   0.00475671   324650   25.03150250   99 confirmations left
22936   2014-10-09 13:13:06   6:48:13   43684750551   92392   0.00000070   324539   25.04349057   confirmed
22935   2014-10-09 06:24:53   5:42:43   38699012302   none           none           324497   25.33283836   confirmed
22934   2014-10-09 00:42:10   15:31:23   104975622407   8931643   none           324475   25.08255188   confirmed
22933   2014-10-08 09:10:47   0:48:37   5549320707   1015850   0.00458371   324391   25.00552590   confirmed
22932   2014-10-08 08:22:10   1:50:29   12526830694   2324405   0.00459182   324386   25.10238433   confirmed
22931   2014-10-08 06:31:41   8:12:14   55967681449   10392874   0.00448300   324375   25.08013922   confirmed
22930   2014-10-07 22:19:27   10:11:13   68708671030   12806513   0.00455740   324320   25.35868136   confirmed
22929   2014-10-07 12:08:14   0:15:37   1696202868   322965   0.00457133   324277   25.05056823   confirmed
22928   2014-10-07 11:52:37   8:24:27   56323309578   10550850   0.00442333   324272   25.03743928   confirmed

that brief 24 hr. period of no reward was the 24hr test i was running at ghash.io

so man if i make the same regardless of block time long blocks suck so i guess thats what gave birth to the "pool hopping stuff and all the different payout structures

I dont understand the math behind it all guess thats why I am not a mathmatician

so what makes 1 block take 17hrs and another to say the average of 3 to 5 hrs or that rare ocassion up above 48 mins dude if i made .004 x 24 hrs I would be a very happy camper definately a good roi  

 

NOBODY makes anything unless a block is found.  At present difficulty of finding a block, it would take Slush approximately 5 hours and 17 minutes on average to find a block.  However, it can vary GREATLY depending on luck, as you have just seen on Slush.

We found 13 blocks in one day on Slush since I started mining on Slush.  Slush could average 4.5 blocks each day according to their total hashing power on the 22nd of September.  So, Slush did very well as far as LUCK that day.  EXTREMELY WELL!!!

I MUST sleep now.  Have a good night!  And HAPPY MINING!!!  GOOD LUCK!!!

[dmwardjr]

Bitcoin Difficulty:   35,002,482,026
Estimated Next Difficulty:   36,169,128,526 (+3.33%)
Adjust time:   After 1940 Blocks, About 13.0 days
Hashrate(?):   243,102,144 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.6 minutes
3 blocks: 28.9 minutes
6 blocks: 57.7 minutes
Updated:   2:39 (1.6 minutes ago)

HAPPY MINING AND GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY

[dmwardjr]

This is a follow up to show 60 Ph/s versus a 57.7 Ph/s on GHash does knock down "shares earned" from .00204... to .00191... on average.  So, my Slush and GHash comparisons were pretty much accurate for the most part.

GHash was probably more like .00193933 on average at 60 Ph/s [even] instead of the .00191766 I had previously posted.  But like I said, "It was a CONSERVATIVE estimate.

19448   2014-10-10 14:00:15   324702   25.2300   5/120   37 minutes   61.46 Ph/s   5707240/75000016968   0.01%   31910124312   0.00191991
19447   2014-10-10 13:23:06   324700   25.0101   7/120   2 hours   59.56 Ph/s   5885880/75000018576   0.01%   86612885289   0.00196275
19446   2014-10-10 11:38:59   324679   25.0193   28/120   2 minutes   57.48 Ph/s   6125240/75000024179   0.01%   1780056876   0.00204332
19445   2014-10-10 11:36:46   324678   25.0383   29/120   30 minutes   58.12 Ph/s   6125240/75000024179   0.01%   24343776026   0.00204487
19444   2014-10-10 11:06:47   324674   25.0425   33/120   29 minutes   58.13 Ph/s   5993240/75000202716   0.01%   23575838967   0.00200113
19443   2014-10-10 10:37:45   324671   25.0785   36/120   10 minutes   58.08 Ph/s   5907000/75000182940   0.01%   8140050516   0.00197517
19442   2014-10-10 10:27:44   324670   25.0661   37/120   an hour   59.97 Ph/s   5852000/75000183525   0.01%   57485393623   0.00195581
19441   2014-10-10 09:19:06   324661   25.0199   46/120   3 hours   57.68 Ph/s   6118640/75000011932   0.01%   139511842389   0.00204117
19440   2014-10-10 06:25:57   324646   25.0384   61/120   5 minutes   57.48 Ph/s   6066720/75000593674   0.01%   4403012177   0.00202533
19439   2014-10-10 06:20:28   324645   25.0990   62/120   24 minutes   59.83 Ph/s   6084760/75000593284   0.01%   19711843980   0.00203627
19438   2014-10-10 05:56:53   324643   25.0289   64/120   3 minutes   57.24 Ph/s   6139320/75000592033   0.01%   2359039938   0.00204879
19437   2014-10-10 05:53:56   324642   25.0231   65/120   4 hours   58.13 Ph/s   6138000/75000591170   0.01%   191079662261   0.00204787

So, Back to my pool comparison:

Slush is averaging right at 8 PH/s TOTAL hashing power.  At present difficulty, that is approximately 5 hours 10 minutes time for each block found.  To be at 100% Luck for the week [while maintaining a consistent 8 PH/s] we would need to find [24 hours divided by 5.16666667 hours] = 4.64516129 blocks each day during that week.  Again, that's to maintain 100% Luck.

[Slush] 4.64516129 blocks x .01452471 average shares with 4.67 TH/s = 0.06746962 BTC average each day.  That would be 2.02408860 BTC in 30 days (1 month).

GHash is averaging right at 60 PH/s TOTAL hashing power.  At present difficulty, that is approximately 41 minutes 21 seconds for each block found.  To be at 100% Luck for the week [while maintaining a consistent 60 PH/s] they would need to find [24 hours divided by .68775 hours] = 34.8964013 blocks each day during that week.  Again, that's to maintain 100% Luck.

EDIT:  CORRECTION MADE TO GHASH ON AVERAGE SHARES, WHICH CHANGES ALL NUMBERS

[GHash] 34.8964013 blocks x .00193933 average shares with 4.67 TH/s = 0.066767564 BTC average each day.  That would be 2.03026914 BTC in 30 days (1 month).  ALSO, one also gets bonus alt coins as well.  Such as NMC and others.  It's a bonus all the way.  Not sure how well those coins are doing and their value related to BTC.  Haven't really looked into THAT part of it deep enough yet.


Slush = 2.02408860 BTC in 30 days

GHash = 2.03026914 BTC in 30 days

They are both so close to being the same in BTC earnings that it PROVES either pool would be fine to mine.  Yes, GHash does give bonus alt-coins as well.  That may make them a little more attractive.  However, Slush can be a bit more attractive on the days they hit well more than 100 % pool luck.  Does that mean GHash does not ever have more than 100% pool luck.  No, they have hit as much as 60 blocks in 24 hours on some days.

Either one of those pools are just as good as the other.  I suppose when we wake up we make a decision on which pool we think will be the luckiest for that day.

[moss]

Either one of those pools are just as good as the other.  I suppose when we wake up we make a decision on which pool we think will be the luckiest for that day.

Yeah, but when you hop away from Slush, you pretty well sacrifice your shares in the block being worked on.  Best to stick with one or the other IMHO, or both of course, which would even out your variance a bit more.  You might find that's something worth trying: you could put half your ants on Slush and the other half on Ghash.  Personally, I would always stay with Slush - we might get some long blocks, but we certainly get a good number of short ones to compensate.

[dmwardjr]

Either one of those pools are just as good as the other.  I suppose when we wake up we make a decision on which pool we think will be the luckiest for that day.

Yeah, but when you hop away from Slush, you pretty well sacrifice your shares in the block being worked on.  Best to stick with one or the other IMHO, or both of course, which would even out your variance a bit more.  You might find that's something worth trying: you could put half your ants on Slush and the other half on Ghash.  Personally, I would always stay with Slush - we might get some long blocks, but we certainly get a good number of short ones to compensate.

TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU on the "hop" thing.  Yes, shares (earnings) are at jeopardy when hopping from one to the other.  I also believe it would be best to stick with one for at least a week if not a month before ever changing to another OR doing like you said, "Half on one and half on the other."

[Billbags]

^ +1 I'm notorious for saying this. Your best bet is to use variance. Variance is dividing your ghs between at least two pools. The system I use is to keep 80%  here at Slush and 20% at BTCguild. Using this method, on bad luck days u still have the possibility of the other pool being very lucky. It's a good proven system no pool hopping involved. If pool hopping really worked we would all be doing it.

Summary: Dont keep all your eggs in the same basket.

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