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October 28, 2015, 03:21:46 PM
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[ranting and rambling; paranoid conspiracy theories]

Let's keep this simple.

Dash has removed the "No Premine" claim from their [ANN] thread (https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=421615.0).

CMC should be updated accordingly, otherwise it is making a judgement/claim that the coin's OP does not.

Q. E. D.


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October 29, 2015, 08:31:58 AM
Last edit: October 29, 2015, 09:22:05 AM by toknormal
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Perhaps Gliss should add other filters that are also meaningful to investors rather than picking one arbitrary aspect of the asset according to whoever trolls the hardest:

 - "Filter Anonymous Dev"
 - "Filter Recently Launched"
 - "Filter Opaque Blockchains"
 - "Filter Bitcoin Compatible"
 - "Filter Inactive Dev"........

The subject of the lobbying in the posts above is not improved reporting, it's a personal vendetta against a specific asset. There are markets to resolve such controversies, however if it turns out that they can successfully recruit supposedly independent references such as coinmarketcap.com to their cause then presumably one can expect a whirlwind of lobbying round here for all the other priorities that matter to people far more than emission profiles.

In terms of marketcap, there are two types of cryptocurrency asset that can reasonably be separated: Backed and unbacked. Thats it. Wink

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October 29, 2015, 02:48:43 PM
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i don't have a problem adding a instamine asterisk to DASH as long as they also add a 1.5 million cripplemine asterisk and a highly inflationary emissions curve asterisk to monero. Grin
http://da-data.blogspot.com/2014/08/minting-money-with-monero-and-cpu.html

has almost half the supply of monero already been mined in the first year and a half? wow, holy hyper inflationary instamine batman!  Shocked

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October 29, 2015, 06:51:49 PM
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Dash launch date



Coins today



Monero launch date



Coins today



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October 29, 2015, 07:31:39 PM
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while you are at it Dash could also use the following tags:

emission change tag (500 to 5 coins per block)

supply change tag (84 million to 16-17 million)

"this coin has been rebranded twice or more" tag

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October 29, 2015, 07:41:15 PM
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hey, ExchangeD.I2P updated their api format and included a call to get info on all coins at once.

can you update your api parsing? ty

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October 30, 2015, 09:06:27 AM
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I doubt Gliss wants to dig into controversies and make judgement calls.

Let's keep this simple.

Dash has removed the "No Premine" claim from their [ANN] thread (https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=421615.0).

CMC should be updated accordingly, otherwise it is making a judgement/claim that the coin's OP does not.

Q. E. D.

My investigations have revealed that Monero doesn't have "No Premine" in their ANN (https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=583449.0) so it must be premined.

Plz update accordingly.
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October 31, 2015, 09:20:26 PM
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Dash has removed the "No Premine" claim from their [ANN] thread (https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=421615.0).

It is no longer in the title, but it is in the body of their OP. All of the original (now changed) parameters have been removed, along with the original coin name.

- Dash has no premine and was fairly and transparently launched
- Total coins will be between 14 and 18 million
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November 01, 2015, 05:24:01 AM
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Please add ANTI
On Yobit & C-cex , https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=1212951.0
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November 01, 2015, 11:45:57 AM
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I check coinmarketcap every day for news on coins, and see if any value change
ethereum have been climbing list very far lately!!
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November 01, 2015, 02:31:33 PM
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I check coinmarketcap every day for news on coins, and see if any value change
ethereum have been climbing list very far lately!!

I check it daily too, I prefer the view all screen, where you can see the weekly progress/decrease:
http://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all/
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November 02, 2015, 04:15:20 PM
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Your tactics are despicable. I applaud coinmarketcap for not getting involved in petty disputes perpetrated by holders of competing coins.

Tip: next time to want to lobby for a change like this, you really should consider creating another login. At least pretend not to be a Dash troll.


You are recommending he should be dishonest by creating a new login, but at the same time calling his tactics despicable. The hypocrisy from Dash is astonishing.

This user Taylor05 is quite obvious a second account.. i would not be surprised if it was Mr. Evan Duffield himself

It is also quite clear coinmarketcap.com is complicit in this fraud of Dash.. is the user Gliss paid by the Dash developers to keep quiet? There appears to be a deliberate inaction here.
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November 02, 2015, 10:57:20 PM
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It is also quite clear coinmarketcap.com is complicit in this fraud of Dash.. is the user Gliss paid by the Dash developers to keep quiet?

There appears to be a deliberate inaction here.

If Dash no longer claims "No Premine" then why should CMC/Gliss?

Is there a connection between the Dash scam and the Bytecoin scam behind Cointelegraph/CMC/Gliss?

CT has a history of sacrificing journalistic integrity to hype Dash:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/114829/litecoin-dumped-by-chinese-dash-next

Hmm, they are pushing Neucoin, that doesn't look good...

Ah-ha, the smoking gun!  http://cointelegraph.com/news/115510/worlds-first-dapi-decentralized-application-programming-interface

How nice of CT to hype Dash's Evolusham vaporware, just as the price needed a shot in the arm.

I hope Gliss will simply update CMC to accurately reflect the info provided by Dash's [ANN], so we don't have to make a Scam Accusation.


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November 03, 2015, 01:35:30 AM
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I hope Gliss will simply update CMC to accurately reflect the info provided by Dash's [ANN], so we don't have to make a Scam Accusation.

Please make a Scam Accusation. We need your multisig brain. We dont have a brain to think. Ahaahha you legendary troll dog Grin  You are barking everywhere but noone give a shit you Grin ahahahahah
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November 03, 2015, 01:41:56 AM
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If Dash no longer claims "No Premine" then why should CMC/Gliss?

Did you miss my post above? Dash indeed does now claim precisely "no premine" in its rewritten OP which removed all of the original coin parameters and history:

- Dash has no premine and was fairly and transparently launched
- Total coins will be between 14 and 18 million
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November 03, 2015, 04:19:56 AM
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Dash has removed the "No Premine" claim from their [ANN] thread (https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=421615.0).

It is no longer in the title, but it is in the body of their OP. All of the original (now changed) parameters have been removed, along with the original coin name.

- Dash has no premine and was fairly and transparently launched
- Total coins will be between 14 and 18 million


"Let's take the controversial and indefensible No Premine claim out of the title, then hide it in the fine print" said Evan Madoffield (probably).

Wow, that is going on Slim Shady.

What parameters have changed, and has CMC unblinkingly accepted those changes without comment, kept the old parameters, or updated Dash with a note indicating it changes its social contract on a whim and gets relaunched more often than the iPhone?

I wasn't originally in favor of making a new scam-category just for Dash, but such innovation in scamminess is in a league of its own.

It really makes Gliss, CMC, and CT look scummy when they list Dash beside legitimate coins and run endless puff-piece interviews hyping the project.


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November 03, 2015, 04:28:13 AM
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Since I quoted in this thread above, it has been edited again:

- Dash is a Next Generation cryptographic currency
- Dash supports instant transactions and privacy using decentralized technology
- Dash has no premine and was fairly and transparently launched
- Total coins will most likely be near 18.9 million (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RpLd87PTs65sz8USrrXwGRoVGVbzaC-nunErEtGSJoE/edit#gid=0)
- Coins will cease to be generated near the year 2300
- Dash uses the X11 algorithm for mining

Previous archived version:

Release date: 11PM EST, 18th January 2014 / No premine
X11 hashing algorithm: 11 rounds of scientific hashing functions (blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein, luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, echo)
Block reward is controlled by: 2222222/(((Difficulty+2600)/9)^2)
CPU/GPU mining
Block generation: 2.5 minutes
Difficulty Retargets using Dark Gravity Wave
7% decrease in the number of coins generated per year
Est. ~22M Max Coins
Decentralized Masternode Network
Superior Transaction Anonymity using Darksend

Earliest archived version

Super secure hashing algorithm: 11 rounds of scientific hashing functions (blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein, luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, echo)
Block reward is controlled by moore's law: (11111 / (((Difficulty+51)/6) ^ 2))
CPU only mining
Block generation: 2.5 minutes
Difficulty Retargets every 576 blocks
84 Million Coins Max
Block reward halving every 2 years

What happened before or in between or other versions that weren't archived I have no idea.
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November 03, 2015, 05:12:29 AM
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Monero 8% Cripplemine and other launch issues...
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=755840.0
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November 04, 2015, 06:46:45 AM
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Monero 8% Cripplemine and other launch issues...
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=755840.0
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so many issues with monero lately...
price is not well either :/
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November 04, 2015, 07:17:40 AM
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Since I quoted in this thread above, it has been edited again:


- Total coins will most likely be near 18.9 million

Previous archived version:


Est. ~22M Max Coins

Earliest archived version


84 Million Coins Max

What happened before or in between or other versions that weren't archived I have no idea.

"I wasn't originally in favor of making a new scam-category just for Dash, but such innovation in scamminess is in a league of its own."

"It really makes Gliss, CMC, and CT look scummy when they list Dash beside legitimate coins and run endless puff-piece interviews hyping the project."

^^ confirmed.   Tongue

Currently in the crypto-space, we lack the vocabulary to precisely describe what Darkcoin/DASH is doing.

To slip between the linguistic cracks, DASH is relying on that failure of jargon closure, intending on penetrating a market with defenses unprepared for such levels of snow job.

CMC/Gliss are aiding that effort with their 'we don't know WTF Dash did/is doing, but hey, at least it doesn't meet our narrow, technical definition of a pre-mine' schtick.

CMC/CT are not looking particularly reputable these days.

Red flag #1 = Bytecoin connections
Red flag #2 = Hyping DASH whenever possible
Red flag #3 = Keep claiming DASH was not insta-mined, even when the [ANN] title no longer advertises that key feature of a fair launch


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