WinMiner v1.126a - auto switch windows app for multi miner optimization

[mystere_miner]

WinMinerTeam,

PLEASE stop overwriting the miners if we make changes, particularly with the new xmr-stack-cpu, which requires editing the config file to tune.  You are only using 2 threads when it should be using 4 on my hardware (quad core CPU).  If I make changes to the config file, it overwrites them.

[olddarkstar]

@ winminer team
great work and thank you for using xmr-stak cpu
xmr-stak cpu performs so much better on my cpu`s than claymore  ~100 h/s more


but winminer still counts profits wrong http://up.picr.de/30275472aq.jpg

http://up.picr.de/30275489qy.jpg

threads are bound to even cores over both cpu`s what is abosltly correct  but it counts the profit double on the web and software interface
the earned proft on the statistc page is correct
so it shows double the profit than i get

next goal xmr-stak amd for the r9 users brings much higher xmr to and is also much more stable than the claymore ones.
and less influences between  gpu and cpu miner working on xmr with claymore the  hash rate dropped hard
dual xeon e5645 and xfx R9 290 8 gb ~1100 h/s xmr-stak  vs 800-900 h/s
I will also test an old gtx760 with gpu-stak nvidia the next days to see differences in performance

[olddarkstar]

the bad thing now it kills my own xmr-stak instances mining to hold xmr
i had always running one xmr-stak cpu or amd running beside winminer to mine xmr without looking at profits just to mine to hold coins

[olddarkstar]

web live view is much more stable now and alows to delete non active host`s and yes delete realy works

[_Dejan_]

Code:

18:47:34:701	159c	Logical CPU cores: 8
18:47:34:702	159c	Number of threads: Autoselection...
18:47:34:702	159c	Using 4 threads

We need custom miner settings ASAP...

[mystere_miner]

Why dou feel the need to rebenchmark my miners every day?  my hashrates haven't changed. 

While were at it, why do you feel the need to benchmark every coin permutation?  This is pure laziness on your side.  You can easily calculate profitability for all coins of the same algorithm by benchmarking one coin.  Don't make us pay for your laziness.

[TeamWinMiner]

Why dou feel the need to rebenchmark my miners every day?  my hashrates haven't changed. 
While were at it, why do you feel the need to benchmark every coin permutation?  This is pure laziness on your side.  You can easily calculate profitability for all coins of the same algorithm by benchmarking one coin.  Don't make us pay for your laziness.

WinMiner was originally built for managing the mining of our own mining farm. It continues to do so today and we keep making it better with our own insight together with the wisdom of our contributing users. This is to say that, our interests here are aligned, we are miners like you are and strive for best overall performance just like you do. We are the first to suffer from inefficiencies if such exist.

Specifically to your points:

(1) Hashrate - is it really constant?
The short answer is yes. The more accurate answer is divided into two: (a) Hashrate of a GPU generally has a certain max value, but it does sometimes fall beneath it. It could be for a shorter or longer periods of time and may be the results of overclocking, environmental conditions, operating system, drivers, CPU load (which may have a substantial impact on GPU performace) etc.; and (b) Coins having a DAG, e.g. Ethereum, mean that your hardware hashrate will change every few days (e.g. 5 days in the case of Ethereum).
To avoid a situations in which a system performance is based on the wrong hashrate reading, whether the result of a sudden drop or changing DAG, we decided to have the benchmarking run once every 24hrs.

(2) Can all coins based on the same algo be bechmarked by just one coin?
The short answer is yes. The more accurate answer is again divided into two: (a) Non ethash coins - bechmarking one coin is sufficient, and that is what we do; and (b) ethash coins (ETH, ETC, EXP, UBQ, MUSIC, DBIX etc.) - benchmarking needs to be done taking into account the DAG size - and that is what we do (here we minimize the need for benchmarking by categorising the coins into groups based on their DAG size and doing benchmarking once for the entire group).

Is there room for further optimization? - definitely
Are we working at it? - we sure do.



 

[svyatko]

@ Winminer team

hi guys.
two questions for you.

1. I am doing CPU only mining, and even though "All Coins" is selected, the only coins mined are either XMR or KRB. Manually trying and selecting anything other tan the mentioned 2 results in "No Jobs From Server"
Is this a normal behaviour ?

2. Any chance you could add Windows server Core to supported OS list? At the moment the app doesn't see the CPU at all in server 2016 core.     

Thanks
 

[4ward]

1. I am doing CPU only mining, and even though "All Coins" is selected, the only coins mined are either XMR or KRB. Manually trying and selecting anything other tan the mentioned 2 results in "No Jobs From Server"
Is this a normal behaviour ?

Thanks
 

Thats the only coins supported by the CPU miners provided

[mine.dog8017]

Hi Team,

Recently installed Winminer in my Windows 2016 Data Centre with Xeon E7 8891 V4 in it. But in "available mining device" not detecting my CPU at all.

Just wondering this version of windows is supported or not?

Sorry if I missed any relevant post regrading the same.

-Dogger

[4ward]

Code:

18:47:34:701	159c	Logical CPU cores: 8
18:47:34:702	159c	Number of threads: Autoselection...
18:47:34:702	159c	Using 4 threads

We need custom miner settings ASAP...

I second that

[_Dejan_]

8.) Today happen again on two computers and Im send you logs. After Stop/Start service in WinMiner it start mining... Im send 4 report 2 from one pc and 2 from another. One report from each pc is before stop/start procedure and another after stop/start procedure...
Thanks for all your work on software and help...

Thanks for sending the logs.

It seems you are using virtual machines for the mining. This is really not recommended.
When the WinMiner software does not find shares for some time it restarts the miner, if this persists, the system identifies the miner as bad and ceases to use this miner. Using a virtual machine significantly increases the likelihood of such a scenario due to the weaker performance of the VM. 

Performance from a host machine will be better than the performance of the VM running on it.

This issue is not related to virtual computer. It happen also normal computer... Im send reports also from this computer...
First it stop mining on gpu card and no mather if I enable all coins I get only one job from server and this job is for CPU:


After few minutes 2-5 minutes also CPU stop mining and appliction show "no jobs from server". After stop/start procedure it start working...

[TeamWinMiner]

I starting using this app 2 weeks ago, was amazing but the earnings dropped.
Also the benchmarks doesnt seem to be right. When is mining ETH/ETC it automatically changes to ZEC and the earnings are $9 - $10/day, but when i manually deselect ZEC and mine other coins the earnings are $13 to $14/day. (it just happen again while writing this)
At the web says +13$/day but at the end its $9-$10
(dont mine my poor english, not my first language)

Thanks for giving WinMiner a go and for sending this important feedback!
It will be very helpful if you could send the logs so we can have a deeper look (Help > Send Error Report, and please write your nickname so we can know its you)

Looking at the screenshots it appears you have changed the WinMiner default settings by having your Pentium CPU actively mine. This is really NOT recommended for a rig of multi GPUs, especially with a Pentium CPU.
A high load on a CPU, which is what you are probably getting by having it mine, can substantially hurt the performance of any GPU, let alone a rig of 8 GPUs like the one you have.

The trade off between getting an extra very little reward for the CPU mining but paying a dear price on your GPUs mining rewards is bad.

We recommend that you turn CPU mining off and examine the performance again.


 

[rdd]

wonder why winminer is not swiching to most profitable coin here ?

https://ibb.co/gMoM4F

[DaemonSK]

wonder why winminer is not swiching to most profitable coin here ?

https://ibb.co/gMoM4F

i second that, if you need screenshots i will provide it, but its same as the one he did

[Barbaris2]

Sometimes lost connection with web.winminer.com (offline) and not showing the status
my ip dynamic

[TeamWinMiner]

Sometimes lost connection with web.winminer.com (offline) and not showing the status
my ip dynamic

Thanks for the feedback!
Can you please be more specific? - when you say "lost connection" do you mean that the page does not load at all? or that the page loads but shows one of your online miners as offline?
Dynamic IP should not be an issue.

[TeamWinMiner]

wonder why winminer is not swiching to most profitable coin here ?
https://ibb.co/gMoM4F

i second that, if you need screenshots i will provide it, but its same as the one he did

Thanks for the great question 
Three elements that you need to take into account:
(1) Coin prices volatility
(2) Coin difficulty (even higher) volatility
(3) Switching time between coins

While trying to provide you with the best profits we want to avoid rapid switching between coins that fluctuate aggressively in their attractiveness..

So the dynamic algo of WinMiner takes into account the expected switch time while looking for stability in the attractiveness of a certain coin over the others, before attempting to switch.

Its interesting to see in the feedback we receive that different users have very different taste when it comes to switching - some want it no more frequent than once a day while others want to rapidly switch, the moment an opportunity unveils. We aim for the golden path that maximizes profits for everyone 

Perhaps we should be adding some manual customizing capabilities to the switching algo so every user could tailor it to his/her taste - what do you say?

[inkubux]

Hi

Winminer recently started to randomly stops.

It usually say "idle" or "stopping miner" and it stays there. It happens at lease once a day.


I tried multiple time to send an error report but it always says that the error report was not sent due to an error..

Is there a way I can paste the error report here ?  Where is it located ?


EDIT I finally was able to send an error report:

http://imgur.com/a/iwGNO


thanks for your help

[DaemonSK]

wonder why winminer is not swiching to most profitable coin here ?
https://ibb.co/gMoM4F

i second that, if you need screenshots i will provide it, but its same as the one he did

Thanks for the great question 
Three elements that you need to take into account:
(1) Coin prices volatility
(2) Coin difficulty (even higher) volatility
(3) Switching time between coins

While trying to provide you with the best profits we want to avoid rapid switching between coins that fluctuate aggressively in their attractiveness..

So the dynamic algo of WinMiner takes into account the expected switch time while looking for stability in the attractiveness of a certain coin over the others, before attempting to switch.

Its interesting to see in the feedback we receive that different users have very different taste when it comes to switching - some want it no more frequent than once a day while others want to rapidly switch, the moment an opportunity unveils. We aim for the golden path that maximizes profits for everyone 

Perhaps we should be adding some manual customizing capabilities to the switching algo so every user could tailor it to his/her taste - what do you say?

actually i personally had no idea that winminer takes into account that the coin might lose its profitability that's why even if its higher than the one that is selected it doesn't switch to it because its going to get back low again and therefore the one that is selected is lower currently but more stable = no switching time losing money and overall more earnings due to its stability so thanks for answering our questions and concerns and for your question, i think its great idea because as you said users here have different tastes, for me i look for the long run profits, so if not switching fast going to maximize the earnings i will leave it the way it is <3 i will simply put my trust in your customizations <3