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February 02, 2014, 05:54:04 PM |
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There's definetily something wonky going on today. Just yesterday I had something around 0.012BTC/MH and today it has dropped down to 0.0064BTC/MH (current rate). I'm also one of those who have almost no unexchanged. I know alt-coin values have dropped quite a bit but that doesn't explain the whole drop. So today seems to be a great (or at least pretty good) payday for some and some of us it is the lowest yet.
And no, I'm not saying h2o is stealing, all I'm saying that this huge server/user discrepancy should be one of his top priorities if not the top as it seems it just has gotten bigger with time.
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brightfist
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February 02, 2014, 05:56:28 PM |
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not enough...
LOL; You are either an asshole or a really good satirist  I always thought he was being sarcastic.  Poe's law is a beautiful thing. It allows me to think everyone's just really clever and not actually crazy.
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LPCobris
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February 02, 2014, 06:17:30 PM |
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I have the same question... That site is very good!  LPC
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hyperionx
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February 02, 2014, 06:21:34 PM |
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This might be getting anoying but i would also like to put my vote on fixing so that the mined coins are split even between servers.
I have been on amsterdamn these past 3 days and I have 10ms ping and have been averaging 0,4%rejects during that time. So far, its been fantastic! (im in sweden btw) But then I look at the stats and see people with the same avg hashrates that have much much higher rejects and they still get loads more btc than me, some even twice as much.
I will not come with any arguments like it not being fair because thats not the biggest issue just yet, with this problem people will start to look for patterns of what pools are the best and they will start jumping to that server and before we know it all servers are empty except one which will be crashing because of all the excess traffic. That has to be quite a valid reason for h2o to take a look at this asap imo.
I can even say I dont mind the disconnects once in a while because with failover to the other middlecoinservers it wont matter much with a couple of minutes here or there.
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February 02, 2014, 06:34:26 PM |
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This might be getting anoying but i would also like to put my vote on fixing so that the mined coins are split even between servers.
I have been on amsterdamn these past 3 days and I have 10ms ping and have been averaging 0,4%rejects during that time. So far, its been fantastic! (im in sweden btw) But then I look at the stats and see people with the same avg hashrates that have much much higher rejects and they still get loads more btc than me, some even twice as much.
Thanks for beta testing the beta server. I will not come with any arguments like it not being fair because thats not the biggest issue just yet, with this problem people will start to look for patterns of what pools are the best and they will start jumping to that server and before we know it all servers are empty except one which will be crashing because of all the excess traffic. That has to be quite a valid reason for h2o to take a look at this asap imo.
I can even say I dont mind the disconnects once in a while because with failover to the other middlecoinservers it wont matter much with a couple of minutes here or there.
I'd agree, he should work to get the beta servers up to production level. Until he does that I'd personally consider using anything but the non-beta server a risk. Would you not? It could be that he didn't properly set expectations of what being a beta server actually means.
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February 02, 2014, 06:45:13 PM |
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I'd agree, he should work to get the beta servers up to production level. Until he does that I'd personally consider using anything but the non-beta server a risk. Would you not? It could be that he didn't properly set expectations of what being a beta server actually means.
Playing MMOs has taught me that beta is the finished product. 
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February 02, 2014, 06:50:27 PM |
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This might be getting anoying but i would also like to put my vote on fixing so that the mined coins are split even between servers.
I have been on amsterdamn these past 3 days and I have 10ms ping and have been averaging 0,4%rejects during that time. So far, its been fantastic! (im in sweden btw) But then I look at the stats and see people with the same avg hashrates that have much much higher rejects and they still get loads more btc than me, some even twice as much.
I will not come with any arguments like it not being fair because thats not the biggest issue just yet, with this problem people will start to look for patterns of what pools are the best and they will start jumping to that server and before we know it all servers are empty except one which will be crashing because of all the excess traffic. That has to be quite a valid reason for h2o to take a look at this asap imo.
I can even say I dont mind the disconnects once in a while because with failover to the other middlecoinservers it wont matter much with a couple of minutes here or there.
you really have to look at a persons total history to get an idea of where you should be. Iv been running amsterdam and dont see any marginal difference between mine and others with near the same consistent hash rate. You will see some people with the same hash a butload more coins, but then you look at the past hash rate and realize they just took a rig down earlier in the day and happen to be at your level now. apparently us east gives you better payouts, but i dont see that with my trials. You also have to realize that high reject rate DOES NOT equal lower shares at the same hash rate. WU is what is most important, not the number of rejects that come with going for higher hashes. Your just throwing what sticks in that case and sometimes, more stick compared to someone making sure every single one does.
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fyff
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February 02, 2014, 06:57:15 PM |
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Why are you still arguing about this? h20 has stated himself that it IS in FACT an issue and it does affect payout it doesn't matter if you're an exception
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hyperionx
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February 02, 2014, 07:00:01 PM |
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jomama22: Im not an idiot, obviously I need to take into account of the hash history.
And also, h2o already confirmed this issue so wether or not youve seen anything doesnt exactly phase me.
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jomama22
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February 02, 2014, 07:18:01 PM |
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jomama22: Im not an idiot, obviously I need to take into account of the hash history.
And also, h2o already confirmed this issue so wether or not youve seen anything doesnt exactly phase me.
confirmed what issue exactly? I haven't seen h20 mention a single thing about payout issues or discrepancy between servers. The only thing h20 has said about the servers is that they need a fix up for instability, especially the EU server. NOTHING about the amsterdam or useast servers was specifically mentioned. Your in here complaining about money, say you aren't complaining, then proceed the openly admit you wont take any advice or suggestions from anyone. So what exactly are you doing here? Why are you still arguing about this? h20 has stated himself that it IS in FACT an issue and it does affect payout it doesn't matter if you're an exception
please point to where he stated this fact
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February 02, 2014, 07:30:38 PM |
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pauldulong
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February 02, 2014, 07:38:16 PM |
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So Im mining in the NL, what server is the best? 30Mh
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February 02, 2014, 08:09:11 PM |
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So Im mining in the NL, what server is the best? 30Mh
30mh.... 30mh... 30 MH!!!!Start pinging them all and pick: amsterdam.middlecoin.com eu.middlecoin.com useast.middlecoin.com uswest.middlecoin.com asia.middlecoin.com
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February 02, 2014, 08:11:35 PM |
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I'm pointing my miners at the three best pinged pools. Of course I could point them all to the best. If it's so that each server tends to mine different coins in different proportions, do you think I'm helping or hurting myself by diversifying. I've been quite happy with results of the main server, just wondering if I can maximize somehow by playing around.
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webbson
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February 02, 2014, 08:12:36 PM |
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Updated my middlecoin watcher (again  ) Added now: 3 hour MH/s average Selectable exchangerates (MtGox, BTC-E, Bitstamp, LocalBitcoins) Interface for settings (wallet id, currency and exchange rates ) In development: Hashrate watcher with email notification. (to begin with) Payouts graph with btc/MH Any wishes or bugs just send me a pm. 
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Hard to choose pool? PoolPickerBTC: 1W3BBSNm3KMtvtMoARiYGjzEoRHB66P
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brightfist
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February 02, 2014, 09:15:27 PM |
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I'm pointing my miners at the three best pinged pools. Of course I could point them all to the best. If it's so that each server tends to mine different coins in different proportions, do you think I'm helping or hurting myself by diversifying. I've been quite happy with results of the main server, just wondering if I can maximize somehow by playing around.
I'd wager on average, you won't really affect your results. But if you do, we sure as hell would like to know! 
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February 02, 2014, 09:28:18 PM |
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jomama22: Im not an idiot, obviously I need to take into account of the hash history.
And also, h2o already confirmed this issue so wether or not youve seen anything doesnt exactly phase me.
confirmed what issue exactly? I haven't seen h20 mention a single thing about payout issues or discrepancy between servers. The only thing h20 has said about the servers is that they need a fix up for instability, especially the EU server. NOTHING about the amsterdam or useast servers was specifically mentioned. Your in here complaining about money, say you aren't complaining, then proceed the openly admit you wont take any advice or suggestions from anyone. So what exactly are you doing here? Why are you still arguing about this? h20 has stated himself that it IS in FACT an issue and it does affect payout it doesn't matter if you're an exception
please point to where he stated this fact Umm he said so on IRC and it was copied into the thread here: I (mining at Amsterdam) noticed the same issue and yesterday H2O confirmed (on IRC) that currently not all servers give the same profits, but he is working on a fix. Excerpts from a chatlog (with other news as well):
Jan 31 22:23:03 <Acrobat> Do we know why the difference in unexchanged between different MC users is so enormous? Are you screwed when mining EU/Amsterdam instead of US? Jan 31 22:31:35 <h2odysee> Acrobat: I know that's an issue. In the future, it won't matter what server you're on. Jan 31 22:31:47 <h2odysee> I'll make all shares equal Jan 31 22:33:15 <h2odysee> The difference in profit between the various servers should be smaller now, than it was before. Jan 31 22:34:48 <h2odysee> well, they should be. I made a change a couple of days ago that should make them more equal --- Jan 31 22:39:43 <h2odysee> current plans, for those interested, are to fix the amsterdam server (I think I know why it disconnects a lot), then set up a new system for rolling out new servers. Jan 31 22:40:11 <h2odysee> So I will be able to easily provision new servers Jan 31 22:40:38 <h2odysee> Once that happens, we'll get a Dallas, LA, and Hong Kong server Jan 31 22:41:03 <h2odysee> both Ireland and Amsterdam suffer from the same problem. I don't know if either is best Jan 31 22:42:28 <h2odysee> I could do a Frankfurt server maybe. Jan 31 22:44:48 <h2odysee> Scandinavia will be low priority, because none of my hosting providers have datacenters there. I'd have to use a new one. --- Jan 31 22:46:27 <h2odysee> Yeah, the current load issues are the main thing Jan 31 22:46:33 <h2odysee> Which I can solve --- Jan 31 22:47:27 <h2odysee> I need to lower the diff again. But I can't yet.
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LPCobris
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February 02, 2014, 09:35:16 PM |
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Updated my middlecoin watcher (again  ) Added now: 3 hour MH/s average Selectable exchangerates (MtGox, BTC-E, Bitstamp, LocalBitcoins) Interface for settings (wallet id, currency and exchange rates ) In development: Hashrate watcher with email notification. (to begin with) Payouts graph with btc/MH Any wishes or bugs just send me a pm.  Hi! Nice work! Does it work with other pools? (like waffle?). Another question, is the page auto-updated? LPC
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RickJamesBTC
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February 02, 2014, 09:45:03 PM |
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It's good to see h2o comment on equal shares. I'd really like to see all shares have equal payout, and each mining server delegate work to multiple coins, building an inventory of coins waiting for good times to sell them off. I'd be fine with the pool keeping unexchanged balances, mining when difficulty is low, selling when price is high. Those two things are different and mostly unrelated, it would lead to much higher payouts in the long term.
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