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Author Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s  (Read 787803 times)
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February 10, 2014, 02:17:27 AM
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Hey PH could you please give me the cliff notes on your latest findings. I can tell your very excited but to me it just looks like rambling. I am glad that you have toned it down a bit though, thanks.
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February 10, 2014, 03:09:37 AM
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Hey PH could you please give me the cliff notes on your latest findings. I can tell your very excited but to me it just looks like rambling. I am glad that you have toned it down a bit though, thanks.

It's a bit of rambling. At one point the company is owned by one of our resellers. The latest was that the company is owned by someone named Alex Berk named after Berkshire which is where he lives. I'm having a hard time keeping up and it seems to me like he's saying because people fly, people must have wings. Some of the stuff even I find interesting. Some of the stuff is like fitting a square peg into a round hole.

He's shotgunning out ideas and predictions and when one of them end up being true he's very proud. He's said that Bobsag and I were the same person (wrong). He said that Bobsag was a liar and a thief because he moved around and leased a few buildings. He said that two people contacted him because Black Arrow wouldn't refund them - that turned out to be false information.

I've stopped debating with him.

I'm also working on pinning down more information. Sorry for the delay. I was hoping Bobsag had more information since he met with everyone. I'll see what I can find.
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February 10, 2014, 03:55:19 AM
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Hey PH could you please give me the cliff notes on your latest findings. I can tell your very excited but to me it just looks like rambling. I am glad that you have toned it down a bit though, thanks.

It's a bit of rambling. At one point the company is owned by one of our resellers. The latest was that the company is owned by someone named Alex Berk named after Berkshire which is where he lives. I'm having a hard time keeping up and it seems to me like he's saying because people fly, people must have wings. Some of the stuff even I find interesting. Some of the stuff is like fitting a square peg into a round hole.

He's shotgunning out ideas and predictions and when one of them end up being true he's very proud. He's said that Bobsag and I were the same person (wrong). He said that Bobsag was a liar and a thief because he moved around and leased a few buildings. He said that two people contacted him because Black Arrow wouldn't refund them - that turned out to be false information.

I've stopped debating with him.

I'm also working on pinning down more information. Sorry for the delay. I was hoping Bobsag had more information since he met with everyone. I'll see what I can find.

So he made a few mistakes, that's nothing compared to willfully lying to your customers, don't you think Matt?

The only thing BA had going for them was February delivery, the rest is quite shady about this company, including the fact that you're "hunting" for information - I have seen that a number of times now. Do you actually have any idea what is going on or do you only get to serve us some crumbs?
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February 10, 2014, 04:04:08 AM
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I think with two weeks until the original shipping date, people have every right to complain and wonder what is going on with the money they spent. There should be a lot of progress already made, most components should be in stock, if you had a failure with one part of the design the rest should still be viable and in production to be ready for shipment as soon as revised chips / pcbs exist... At least, that's what would happen if there were some truth to the story at this point.
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February 10, 2014, 04:24:49 AM
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Hey PH could you please give me the cliff notes on your latest findings. I can tell your very excited but to me it just looks like rambling. I am glad that you have toned it down a bit though, thanks.

It's a bit of rambling. At one point the company is owned by one of our resellers. The latest was that the company is owned by someone named Alex Berk named after Berkshire which is where he lives. I'm having a hard time keeping up and it seems to me like he's saying because people fly, people must have wings. Some of the stuff even I find interesting. Some of the stuff is like fitting a square peg into a round hole.

He's shotgunning out ideas and predictions and when one of them end up being true he's very proud. He's said that Bobsag and I were the same person (wrong). He said that Bobsag was a liar and a thief because he moved around and leased a few buildings. He said that two people contacted him because Black Arrow wouldn't refund them - that turned out to be false information.

I've stopped debating with him.

I'm also working on pinning down more information. Sorry for the delay. I was hoping Bobsag had more information since he met with everyone. I'll see what I can find.

I think instead of more information, we need some information to begin with, we really haven't been told anything besides being shown a couple more renders of a product that looked very unfinal.


Exactly. It's time BA stopped pretending that any product has been delivered. Showing renders of cases is a long way from producing ASIC miners, a very long way.

So far all we've seen are pictures of non-existent cases and heard from resellers who don't have any product to sell.

Vapourware anyone?

Maybe you'd like your cards skimmed with that?

Or supersize your X-1 loss to an X-3 loss?

Shady or what?

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February 10, 2014, 04:53:42 AM
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All messages from Phinnaeus Gage will be deleted due to numerous reports of trolling.


We manufacture Bitcoin ASICs and Bitcoin mining equipment.
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com
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February 10, 2014, 04:57:25 AM
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https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=456964.msg5038597#msg5038597

i'll be on ignore too i guess  Roll Eyes

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February 10, 2014, 04:57:55 AM
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Since you're here, why don't you provide us with an update. What progress has been made in the last week?

Well, I hear they managed to delete all of PG's posts... surely that ought to account for something!  Roll Eyes
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February 10, 2014, 05:00:17 AM
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Since you're here, why don't you provide us with an update. What progress has been made in the last week?

Last week was Chinese New Year, most of the company was off work.
Anyway, we have completed the pinout of the chip, made some progress on the case but has not been completed.



We manufacture Bitcoin ASICs and Bitcoin mining equipment.
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February 10, 2014, 05:01:19 AM
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All messages from Phinnaeus Gage will be deleted due to numerous reports of trolling.


Since you're here, why don't you provide us with an update. What progress has been made in the last week?

Well, I hear they managed to delete all of PG's posts... surely that ought to account for something!  Roll Eyes

not spreading FUD, or trolling.. but, this all seems too familiar.
Collectively, we need to stop making any sort of pre-order whatsoever. It's very easy to turn an 'idea' into a reality with the help of other people's money.

there is a thin line which separates an good idea, from being an elaborate fraud.

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February 10, 2014, 05:02:41 AM
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Since you're here, why don't you provide us with an update. What progress has been made in the last week?

Last week was Chinese New Year, most of the company was off work.
Anyway, we have completed the pinout of the chip, made some progress on the case but has not been completed.


What is a pinout?

where they realise that all the pins on the chip are crap and start pulling them out to begin from scratch.

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February 10, 2014, 05:09:12 AM
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All messages from Phinnaeus Gage will be deleted due to numerous reports of trolling.



So, presenting the truth is now considered trolling, eh? I guess I get the pleasure of starting the Black Arrow scammer thread.

You haven't posted since last November, but want to blame your absence on CNY.

All the posts that you were so kind to delete, will be ALL posted in my scammer thread, including this one, of which will be the first, for it, too, will be deleted in 5...4...3...

'tis indeed a thin line being tread. refunds please.

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February 10, 2014, 05:28:01 AM
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refunds, yes or no?

+1

May 2014 +25% of cloud hashing is a crap offer. 'must do better'*

*karma has finally taken it's toll, this is all I ever seen on my school reports.

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February 10, 2014, 05:41:33 AM
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thanks for getting rid of that clown phin.


now, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF TAPEOUT? WHAT HAPPENED TO A WEEKLY UPDATE?
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February 10, 2014, 05:44:33 AM
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Since you're here, why don't you provide us with an update. What progress has been made in the last week?

Last week was Chinese New Year, most of the company was off work.
Anyway, we have completed the pinout of the chip, made some progress on the case but has not been completed.





One line about people being on holidays and another one line for the update  Huh

Not even having the decency to apologise for the delay in delivery, you provide an update that would still leave characters left over on a tweet?

You don't have to be a genius to see why customers who trusted you with their funds are disappointed, upset and underwhelmed.

I suggest that you also chill on deleting people's posts, it's not a strategy that will increase your reputation - getting your act together, delivering some product, that's where the ball park is for you guys right now.

Good luck with it all. I think you're going to need all the luck you can get.

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February 10, 2014, 05:49:12 AM
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thanks for getting rid of that clown phin.


now, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF TAPEOUT? WHAT HAPPENED TO A WEEKLY UPDATE?

+1

as much as i hated that guy, i don't think all his post should had been deleted. sadly i will be seeking a refund to because i now dont believe my x1s will roi due this mayor delay and mtgox going down.honestly you guys could had done a beter job handleing this.
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February 10, 2014, 05:49:33 AM
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OleOle you can stop wasting your time. You're not even a good fudster.

Also good job BA for deleting literally pages of spam
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February 10, 2014, 05:55:34 AM
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thanks for getting rid of that clown phin.


now, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF TAPEOUT? WHAT HAPPENED TO A WEEKLY UPDATE?

Tapeout is on 20 Feb 2014.

Weekly update will be on Wednesday / Thursday when our new "press officer" arrives here.

We manufacture Bitcoin ASICs and Bitcoin mining equipment.
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com
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February 10, 2014, 06:00:00 AM
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thanks for getting rid of that clown phin.


now, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF TAPEOUT? WHAT HAPPENED TO A WEEKLY UPDATE?

Tapeout is on 20 Feb 2014.

Weekly update will be on Wednesday / Thursday when our new "press officer" arrives here.

Fingers crossed.

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February 10, 2014, 06:00:21 AM
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as much as i hated that guy, i don't think all his post should had been deleted.

Maybe, but unfortunately we do not have time to read all his posts. We have work to do for all our paying customers, and have no time to waste with a random jobless individual who's not even our customer.

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We are selling hardware. We are not investment service.

We manufacture Bitcoin ASICs and Bitcoin mining equipment.
http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com
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