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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. They literally are using a third party provider. If you go to KYC it goes to Ocular.
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Anilbg
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May 29, 2018, 09:15:22 AM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow.
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Nathan01
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May 29, 2018, 09:42:21 AM |
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Mine Bitcoin for Zero Cost Energy - Interview with 4NEW President Saransh Sharma I speak to 4NEW President Saransh Sharma, who gives us the lowdown on how his ICO will allow token holders to mine cryptos for zero cost energy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIzmuTkz6J0Thanks for sharing, I do not remember how many interviews he has already given :-) And again almost 50min long. he is really eager to spread the information on many occasions I have to say, the lead-up leads to an interview to watch, zero cost energy, who does not want that :-) President Saransh is really an interesting fellow to discuss with as you feel the passion and enthusiasm over the screen, however he stays on the community and gives quality information is as important as the several moves he has made in time past
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May 29, 2018, 10:48:08 AM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. This is getting interesting. We should be able to buy on the 1st of June. I think they raised a good sum and the hard cap might be hard to achieve in three days but hey no one knows what might happen.
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May 29, 2018, 11:50:06 AM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. This is getting interesting. We should be able to buy on the 1st of June. I think they raised a good sum and the hard cap might be hard to achieve in three days but hey no one knows what might happen. Yeah, Friday is the big day. I am sure that the progress bar will make a big jump through all the pre-reservations. I can not wait for it to start. I hope all interested parties have registered, so they still get the early bird bonus
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ethtrader16
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May 29, 2018, 01:19:41 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. I hope. KYC verification is not easy task. Huge number of people are registered here for pre listing sale. But I am also expecting before start sale they complete all verifications.
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ctrades31
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May 29, 2018, 01:55:30 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. As I remembered previously also they taken long time for KYC implementation process. But as they promised they made required changes in below that. And I am sure this time also same thing will happen.
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May 29, 2018, 02:47:25 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. I hope they make the KYC implementation on time and they do not move the 3 day sale further back. The ICO has really been going on for a long time and I would be happy if they finally start mining in June I think they had a enough time to settle all they have to settle as regards the KYC implementation. They must have weighed the task and estimated the required time needed before they made the announcement of resuming 1st June. A further shift is what they must avoid at all cost.
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phantam
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May 29, 2018, 02:49:31 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. I hope. KYC verification is not easy task. Huge number of people are registered here for pre listing sale. But I am also expecting before start sale they complete all verifications. Depends on the type of kyc and how much they automate away I’m sure they are actively working to stay on time they’ve been very cautious of their timeline so far don’t see why that would be any different now
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May 29, 2018, 02:58:40 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. I hope. KYC verification is not easy task. Huge number of people are registered here for pre listing sale. But I am also expecting before start sale they complete all verifications. Depends on the type of kyc and how much they automate away I’m sure they are actively working to stay on time they’ve been very cautious of their timeline so far don’t see why that would be any different now I believe they will be done with the kyc before the beginning of pre listing sale. I hope there isn't much documents left to process.
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May 29, 2018, 03:30:06 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. I hope. KYC verification is not easy task. Huge number of people are registered here for pre listing sale. But I am also expecting before start sale they complete all verifications. Depends on the type of kyc and how much they automate away I’m sure they are actively working to stay on time they’ve been very cautious of their timeline so far don’t see why that would be any different now I believe they will be done with the kyc before the beginning of pre listing sale. I hope there isn't much documents left to process. Where can we see the progress of the kyc verification? i am pretty sure they have planned to complete it before the listing sale.
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May 29, 2018, 03:40:59 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. I hope. KYC verification is not easy task. Huge number of people are registered here for pre listing sale. But I am also expecting before start sale they complete all verifications. I would think they would finish all the verification before they start the sale to ensure everything goes smooth - I'm sure the 4NEW team are keeping on top of it just like everything else. Can't wait for the sale to start
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May 29, 2018, 05:40:37 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. As I remembered previously also they taken long time for KYC implementation process. But as they promised they made required changes in below that. And I am sure this time also same thing will happen. As we are closer to pre-listing token sale start and its for only 3 days, so I am now expecting an announcement from 4NEW about a token listing.
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May 29, 2018, 06:00:34 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. As I remembered previously also they taken long time for KYC implementation process. But as they promised they made required changes in below that. And I am sure this time also same thing will happen. As we are closer to pre-listing token sale start and its for only 3 days, so I am now expecting an announcement from 4NEW about a token listing. Yeah, you're right. A pre- listing sale wouldn't make sense if they didn't have agreements with an exchange already. I guess we should hear some news before friday.
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May 29, 2018, 06:28:17 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. This is getting interesting. We should be able to buy on the 1st of June. I think they raised a good sum and the hard cap might be hard to achieve in three days but hey no one knows what might happen. This is what will happen; there will be a rush on sales day and those who have reserve will be better for it, there have been build up of the rush fever on the Telegram group already, if Hard cap is not met on the days, a significant amount will be raised
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May 29, 2018, 06:32:15 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. I hope they make the KYC implementation on time and they do not move the 3 day sale further back. The ICO has really been going on for a long time and I would be happy if they finally start mining in June I think they had a enough time to settle all they have to settle as regards the KYC implementation. They must have weighed the task and estimated the required time needed before they made the announcement of resuming 1st June. A further shift is what they must avoid at all cost. You have to consider that there can be many surprises that cause problems in terms of regulatory requirements. I can understand when projects become hesitant to move too fast.
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May 29, 2018, 07:24:49 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. I hope they make the KYC implementation on time and they do not move the 3 day sale further back. The ICO has really been going on for a long time and I would be happy if they finally start mining in June I think they had a enough time to settle all they have to settle as regards the KYC implementation. They must have weighed the task and estimated the required time needed before they made the announcement of resuming 1st June. A further shift is what they must avoid at all cost. You have to consider that there can be many surprises that cause problems in terms of regulatory requirements. I can understand when projects become hesitant to move too fast. Since the governments are still not sure how to regulate ICOs/cryptos in general, it's better to be prepared for everything. A KYC process for all investors seems already mandatory nowadays. So it makes no sense to rush the implementation and then having issues later on.
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May 29, 2018, 07:44:29 PM |
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Yep these days it’s mostly ICOs covering their own butts to make sure if down the road things change governments can’t xome point long fingers about not complying as the governments attempt to catch up to where tech is at
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May 29, 2018, 07:51:43 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. As I remembered previously also they taken long time for KYC implementation process. But as they promised they made required changes in below that. And I am sure this time also same thing will happen. Can some one explain me what changes have been made by the team as compared to the sales they conducted last time? I know KYC implementation.
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May 29, 2018, 08:06:29 PM |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. I hope they make the KYC implementation on time and they do not move the 3 day sale further back. The ICO has really been going on for a long time and I would be happy if they finally start mining in June I think they had a enough time to settle all they have to settle as regards the KYC implementation. They must have weighed the task and estimated the required time needed before they made the announcement of resuming 1st June. A further shift is what they must avoid at all cost. You have to consider that there can be many surprises that cause problems in terms of regulatory requirements. I can understand when projects become hesitant to move too fast. Indeed, but there is a trend in banning landfilling by governments worldwide, which is beneficial to 4NEW as it introduces an alternative to landfilling. Regulations are not always negative :-)
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The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing
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