[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[coins101]

an example of how 'Dark' is used and perceived, for better or worse, just an eg & forget the Gov BS part, but may be of interest

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/darksidecropped-150310094630-conversion-gate01/95/the-dark-side-of-the-digital-revolution-1-638.jpg?cb=1426007945

I've always maintained that the Dark name is an asset until it gets to the point where it needs to grow up and move to mainstream.

Marketing and Branding

TBC

Marketing and branding follows a review of demographics, target markets.

However, it is likely that Darkcoin will require a strategy for rebranding and market positioning once it becomes an established payment network with the ability to rotate into high volume mass market retail merchant use.

All the publicity about 'Dark' being dark is basically free publicity which has benefited the publications and DRK.

But it is about time to move on.

[tungfa]

Darkcoin's CNY market has been opened at https://bter.com/trade/drk_cny , deposit at https://bter.com/myaccount/deposit/DRK … , withdraw at https://bter.com/myaccount/withdraw/DRK …

oooh!  A CNY pair

The significance is that BTER have enabled DRK, after their hack.

is there any more info on this ?!
Bter is all good and working ?

[Otoh]

an example of how 'Dark' is used and perceived, for better or worse, just an eg & forget the Gov BS part, but may be of interest

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/darksidecropped-150310094630-conversion-gate01/95/the-dark-side-of-the-digital-revolution-1-638.jpg?cb=1426007945

I've always maintained that the Dark name is an asset until it gets to the point where it needs to grow up and move to mainstream.

Marketing and Branding

TBC

Marketing and branding follows a review of demographics, target markets.

However, it is likely that Darkcoin will require a strategy for rebranding and market positioning once it becomes an established payment network with the ability to rotate into high volume mass market retail merchant use.

All the publicity about 'Dark' being dark is basically free publicity which has benefited the publications and DRK.

But it is about time to move on.

I agree and loved the dark horse vibe, it got us where we are now, but every non crypto person that I mentioned darkcoin to was like Eww! Dark + Internets = Yuk!

[stonehedge]

Two retailers (close friends) who I have previously discussed accepting DRK actually said "come back if you change the name".

I love the name Darkcoin and don't want to see it go but it feels like the right time to move on now.

[BootstrapCoinDev]

small question guys:

when you break your masternode (withdrew funds accidentally from the 1K transaction) and you take everything off and deposit a clean 1K again.

Do you have to create a new masternode genkey? or can the same one be used?

As i would think, only the collateral output would be changed, but i could be wrong here.

greetz

darkcoind stop
mv darkcoind darkcoind-100704
nano darkcoin.conf

change masternode=1 to masternode=0 in darkcoin.conf

darkcoind
darkcoind masternode genkey

copy everything to clipboard

darkcoind stop
nano darkcoin.conf

cahnge masternode=0 to masternode=1

darkcoind
darkcoind masternode start

[Otoh]

Darkcoin's CNY market has been opened at https://bter.com/trade/drk_cny , deposit at https://bter.com/myaccount/deposit/DRK … , withdraw at https://bter.com/myaccount/withdraw/DRK …

oooh!  A CNY pair

The significance is that BTER have enabled DRK, after their hack.

is there any more info on this ?!
Bter is all good and working ?

Seems to be, my CNY balance is intact and trades are happening, haven't tried any DRK or other withdrawals as yet, but I expect that we'd've have heard if say the earlier allowed ones like NXT weren't going though OK

[patrolman]

Darkcoin's CNY market has been opened at https://bter.com/trade/drk_cny , deposit at https://bter.com/myaccount/deposit/DRK … , withdraw at https://bter.com/myaccount/withdraw/DRK …

oooh!  A CNY pair

The significance is that BTER have enabled DRK, after their hack.

is there any more info on this ?!
Bter is all good and working ?

They have a notice up on the DRK/BTC and DRK/CNY pages at least:

Notice: The trading will be enabled soon. Don't forget to double check the price in your existing orders. Get latest updates at https://twitter.com/btercom .

[tungfa]

Darkcoin's CNY market has been opened at https://bter.com/trade/drk_cny , deposit at https://bter.com/myaccount/deposit/DRK … , withdraw at https://bter.com/myaccount/withdraw/DRK …

oooh!  A CNY pair

The significance is that BTER have enabled DRK, after their hack.

is there any more info on this ?!
Bter is all good and working ?

Seems to be, trades are happening, haven't tried any DRK or other withdrawals as yet, but I expect that we'd've have heard if say the earlier allowed ones like NXT weren't going though OK

the locals all say " get out ASAP"

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Two retailers (close friends) who I have previously discussed accepting DRK actually said "come back if you change the name".

I love the name Darkcoin and don't want to see it go but it feels like the right time to move on now.

I completely agree. This is also the sentiment I've been getting. If we are truly going to take this technology to the whole world so everyone can enjoy the benefits, this is the way to go.
Cheers, mate, it's nice to see a similar viewpoint to my own. I've been getting torn apart in the DCT thread all night! 

[UdjinM6]

small question guys:

when you break your masternode (withdrew funds accidentally from the 1K transaction) and you take everything off and deposit a clean 1K again.

Do you have to create a new masternode genkey? or can the same one be used?

As i would think, only the collateral output would be changed, but i could be wrong here.

greetz

darkcoind stop
mv darkcoind darkcoind-100704
nano darkcoin.conf

change masternode=1 to masternode=0 in darkcoin.conf

darkcoind
darkcoind masternode genkey

copy everything to clipboard

darkcoind stop
nano darkcoin.conf

cahnge masternode=0 to masternode=1

darkcoind
darkcoind masternode start

There is no  need to regenerate new  key. Just deposit fresh 1K, wait for 15 conf and do "masternode start". But if you really want to change masternodeprivkey you need to update it on both sides - local and remote.

[MasterMined710]

I've added a few more trolls to my ignore list today bringing the total to over 20 in the last 48 hours. Thanks to illodin, tok, minotaur and everybody else here fighting them!

I hope we keep the Darkcoin "D" logo as there is a ton of great artwork/Memes associated with it...

So is anyone who disagrees with you a troll? I had legitimate concerns. Is my voice not allowed to be heard?

This is honestly the first I am hearing about a re-branding... I am a bit disappointed.  

Just Lol

Have you no shame? You've been caught out lying. You've come in here claiming "Oh....I've only just heard....I'm disappointed...."

You're wasting everyone's time trying to start the whole branding discussion all over again from the beginning yet you're over on Spreadcointalk saying "Hey guys, Darkcoin's changing their name.....we should leverage off this....yeah, this could be our great moment...."

It's just dishonest, lame and true troll behaviour.

If you're invested in DRK then add to DRK's success by taking part honestly and positively; not like some snake in the grass.

You are on my ignore list because of your trolling. Lucky for you your post was quoted or i never would have saw your comment.  Have a nice day.

[coins101]

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You are on my ignore list because of your trolling. Lucky for you your post was quoted or i never would have saw your comment.  Have a nice day.

We all make mistakes in the heat of uncertainty.

SPAM

I'm a recent supporter of spreadcoin. I actually bought some after the dev went AWOL and the community started to gather together to take on the project. I also got some because the solo mining thing was effective against pools but was proved to be ineffective against private pools.

The moment Master Nodes are off the agenda, I'm also off. Other than that, I'll give the project as much support as possible.

I have let everyone there know that as soon as they try to compete with DRK then I'm off.

Not SPAM

However, master nodes are an untapped pit of opportunities and R&D in spreadcoin could identify one or two gems (got to use that word twice today  ) that DRK or DASH could use at some point in the future, once the focus from competing against Bitcoin is well under way and the project needs to look over the horizon for longer-term developments.

[coins101]

There must be ways we can make DASH work for everyone, including the masses.

Lets have a competition with some prizes. That always seems to rally the troops around a worthwhile endeavour.

[BakerZA]

As has been said, I believe that this change will be for the best, after my wall was sold in to completely there were no walls at all for a considerable period of time during this controversy, I think that was some good free market price discovery of where today's natural floor would be in difficult conditions, the coins that were sold to me are now effectively removed from the open market and will join the masternode network in strengthening the coin, my present wall is 100 BTC @ 0.01 on Finex if anyone would like to exit a large position, it won't be removed or lowered, there's also 30 BTC worth of bids on Cryptsy at the same price.

Is the wall still in place or is the current rise in price subject to that wall?

[innergy]

Some sentences used by ordinary people in 2017:

- Can you Dash me 20 Dots/Duffs?
- I Dashed you the amount a few seconds ago, it is there.
- Who will Dash the bill?
- You take Dash?
- Give me the Dash
- Handover the Dash
- I got slashDashed during divorce

- Cash or Dash..  

Well, its Dash now. Should it be colour green?
colour green would look lovelly!

+1000

[ocminer]

-snip-

You are on my ignore list because of your trolling. Lucky for you your post was quoted or i never would have saw your comment.  Have a nice day.

We all make mistakes in the heat of uncertainty.

SPAM

I'm a recent supporter of spreadcoin. I actually bought some after the dev went AWOL and the community started to gather together to take on the project. I also got some because the solo mining thing was effective against pools but was proved to be ineffective against private pools.

This is absolutely wrong, I run/ran a pool for SPR, the problem was/is that SPR was so ultra-cheap that noone invested the time to get "normal" pool software ported to SPR's special features. It is like adapting to a new algo.

The whole anti-pool thing is totally non-functioning in SPR and was always just a middle to feign some special feature and get "normal" people in to buy coins.

SPR is nothing but a 1:1 clone of an old darkcoin source with a few (!) mods making in incompatible with standard-stratum software...  

[toknormal]

I've followed Dark since the beginning and although I am not a huge fan of the name 'dash' it is slowly growing on me and I think there are alot of other names that could be a lot worse too.

It's slowly growing on me as well. Let me give you 2 reasons why:

[1] - any name that is 'survivable' when you first come across it is potentially a great name, not because of what it is but because of what you can make it mean. Dash works for me because it it is memorable and has a subtle dovetail with Darkcoin's heritage (they share the same root letters)

[2] - Evan is right in establishing the roadmap to capitalise on the generality of the dual-layer technology he's come up with rather than the specific. The word 'Dash' embodies both the privacy aspect (by way of a hat tip to Darkcoin) and the efficiency aspect (rapid confirmations, lightweight, scaleable)

Remember. Darkcoin was never about dark markets. It was about something much bigger and more mainstream - supporting regular personal financial dignity, commercial competitiveness (by way of mitigating 3rd party mining of a business's cash movements) and providing users with the privacy they already expect from existing money systems.

The more I think about it the more I think it's a great name that really does do justice to what this technology is doing. It also seems to be attracting new interest already now that "that obstacle' is out of the way.

The fact that all that can be crammed into 1 syllable is pretty cool as well.

We should not look a gift horse in the mouth.

[dazbarlby]

Once 2FA has been implemented I can see companies offering to insure your DASH holdings for a very small monthly fee because the risk of having your DASH stolen (even from hackers and physically from thieves) will be very very low but the insurance will give you that extra peace of mind and people will no longer need governments to guarantee their money.

Along with anonymity, speed, security, ease of use, mobile and daily billion plus transaction capabilities... Well, at that point I can only see DASH increasing in popularity extremely quickly.

DASH will be the PERFECT CASH... Will it surpass Bitcoin? I'm pretty sure it will in the next 2 years at its current a pace.

[coins101]

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You are on my ignore list because of your trolling. Lucky for you your post was quoted or i never would have saw your comment.  Have a nice day.

We all make mistakes in the heat of uncertainty.

SPAM

I'm a recent supporter of spreadcoin. I actually bought some after the dev went AWOL and the community started to gather together to take on the project. I also got some because the solo mining thing was effective against pools but was proved to be ineffective against private pools.

This is absolutely wrong, I run/ran a pool for SPR, the problem was/is that SPR was so ultra-cheap that noone invested the time to get "normal" pool software ported to SPR's special features. It is like adapting to a new algo.

The whole anti-pool thing is totally non-functioning in SPR and was always just a middle to feign some special feature and get "normal" people in to buy coins.

SPR is nothing but a 1:1 clone of an old darkcoin source with a few (!) mods making in incompatible with standard-stratum software...  

So we are in agreement.

The 'no pools' thing was not the reason I got involved.

Being based on DRK meant there was a focus on master nodes <-- my only area of interest.

[stonehedge]

My wife is a big Darkcoin supporter and thinks DASH is great and she's always right.  

She's definitely not pointing a knife to me at this moment.  (help!)