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October 03, 2022, 12:26:01 PM
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Soon i will install ubuntu (or debian) in another old laptop.
Is not possible to run the commands on a linux online website for free?

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
If you know anyone provide it for free then please tell me  Smiley
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October 03, 2022, 12:42:34 PM
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There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
If you know anyone provide it for free then please tell me  Smiley
What about:
https://www.onworks.net/media/system/apps/free-ubuntu-online-version19.html

https://www.onworks.net/os-distributions/ubuntu-based/free-ubuntu-online-version19
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October 03, 2022, 01:05:21 PM
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That kind of good for someone who want to test the Linux system.
But it have there limitations so its not good for any kind of heavy work like keyhunt.
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October 03, 2022, 01:15:32 PM
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That kind of good for someone who want to test the Linux system.
But it have there limitations so its not good for any kind of heavy work like keyhunt.
What about renting a cloud server?
https://www.cloud4u.com/cloud-hosting/cloud-server/
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October 03, 2022, 01:19:26 PM
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https://servdiscount.com/en/vps/rent-linux-vps.html

Here a basic virtual machine costs only 5$/month.  Cheesy
Is it enough to make keyhunt running there?
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October 03, 2022, 01:29:44 PM
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https://servdiscount.com/en/vps/rent-linux-vps.html

Here a basic virtual machine costs only 5$/month.  Cheesy
Is it enough to make keyhunt running there?

I already test all these services  Smiley
If you want cheap&faster VM/VPS go with UpCloud
And if you want cheap&faster Dedicated server then go with wholesaleinternet

You need to know that most services not allow to mining and similar behavior like keyhunt, they will block you account immediately over night.

both UpCloud & wholesaleinternet I use it for keyhunt without any problem
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October 03, 2022, 01:57:35 PM
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You need to know that most services not allow to mining and similar behavior like keyhunt, they will block you account immediately over night.
both UpCloud & wholesaleinternet I use it for keyhunt without any problem
Has been difficult to configure upcloud or wholesaleinternet to install and run keyhunt?
Is it like i do it on my linux laptop or is it something more difficult?
(i used for a while an ubuntu laptop some years ago even if i don't remember too much)

Don't you fear that the server admin can read the privkey if you find it?
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Has been difficult to configure upcloud or wholesaleinternet to install and run keyhunt?
Is it like i do it on my linux laptop or is it something more difficult?
(i used for a while an ubuntu laptop some years ago even if i don't remember too much)

Don't you fear that the server admin can read the privkey if you find it?
The install done by host provider. you will get access via SSH terminal. There are no desktop or graphic interface, you have just terminal (text interface)
So you need to be OK with using terminal for all things.(just few command to learn and you ready to go)
*They are some host that provide Windows desktop but its so expensive compare to Linux.

You will be the only admin in that host, the connection and access will require your SSH-RSA.

SSH-RSA is secret and public keys. The provider will ask you to give them your public key to encrypt your host and you will be the only one can access it via your secret key.
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October 03, 2022, 02:37:55 PM
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Has been difficult to configure upcloud or wholesaleinternet to install and run keyhunt?
Is it like i do it on my linux laptop or is it something more difficult?
(i used for a while an ubuntu laptop some years ago even if i don't remember too much)

Don't you fear that the server admin can read the privkey if you find it?
The install done by host provider. you will get access via SSH terminal. There are no desktop or graphic interface, you have just terminal (text interface)
So you need to be OK with using terminal for all things.(just few command to learn and you ready to go)
*They are some host that provide Windows desktop but its so expensive compare to Linux.

You will be the only admin in that host, the connection and access will require your SSH-RSA.

SSH-RSA is secret and public keys. The provider will ask you to give them your public key to encrypt your host and you will be the only one can access it via your secret key.

It's very interesting, but i have a doubt:

The cheapest solution on https://www.wholesaleinternet.net/dedicated/ costs 9$/month: Intel Core2Duo 1,6Ghz 1 processor 2 cores 2 threads RAM 4 Gb DDR2 250GB SATA

My laptop has an Intel i7 4500U 1,8-3,0 Ghz 2 cores 4 threads RAM 8 Gb DDR3 250GB SSD.

My laptop seems more powerful or am I missing something?

My laptop is 65W so with italian high cost (0,00032 W/h) i could pay 15$/month (9$/month seems better).  Undecided
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October 03, 2022, 03:13:14 PM
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It's very interesting, but i have a doubt:

The cheapest solution on https://www.wholesaleinternet.net/dedicated/ costs 9$/month: Intel Core2Duo 1,6Ghz 1 processor 2 cores 2 threads RAM 4 Gb DDR2 250GB SATA

My laptop has an Intel i7 4500U 1,8-3,0 Ghz 2 cores 4 threads RAM 8 Gb DDR3 250GB SSD.

My laptop seems more powerful or am I missing something?

My laptop is 65W so with italian high cost (0,00032 W/h) i could pay 15$/month (9$/month seems better).  Undecided
You should go with Xeon processor if you want to have chance. less than that is absolute zero(bitcoin range is tooooooooooo...etc big)

You miss about cooling because you laptop will run 100% all time which will cost you much then that.
And also don't miss the noisiness  Smiley
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October 03, 2022, 04:14:22 PM
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You should go with Xeon processor if you want to have chance. less than that is absolute zero(bitcoin range is tooooooooooo...etc big)

You miss about cooling because you laptop will run 100% all time which will cost you much then that.
And also don't miss the noisiness  Smiley
Noisiness for sure during the night .
It does not seem to overheat much with keyhunt, not using the gpu in my opinion it does not consume more than 2 times the 15W declared by Intel for the middle cpu usage plus something for the rest of the hardware maybe it does not reach 30-40W (65W is the maximum of the transformer).

How many privkeys can you examine monthly with your rented Xeon? How many keys/s does it reach?

Prices for 36 cores/72 threads is 100$/month.  Undecided
How many privkeys do you think can i examine in one month with a Dual Xeon E5-2696v3 128 GB 2x2 TB SSD?
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October 04, 2022, 01:01:27 AM
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Noisiness for sure during the night .
It does not seem to overheat much with keyhunt, not using the gpu in my opinion it does not consume more than 2 times the 15W declared by Intel for the middle cpu usage plus something for the rest of the hardware maybe it does not reach 30-40W (65W is the maximum of the transformer).

How many privkeys can you examine monthly with your rented Xeon? How many keys/s does it reach?

Prices for 36 cores/72 threads is 100$/month.  Undecided
How many privkeys do you think can i examine in one month with a Dual Xeon E5-2696v3 128 GB 2x2 TB SSD?

I was had 9 servers (Dual Xeon E5-2696v3) each one of them have speed for rmd160  ~56 Mkeys/s (56918732 keys/s) and for bsgs ~2 Ekeys/s (2476793317881701990 keys/s)
How much wallet I found IS ZERO  Cry
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October 04, 2022, 06:52:20 AM
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I was had 9 servers (Dual Xeon E5-2696v3) each one of them have speed for rmd160  ~56 Mkeys/s (56918732 keys/s) and for bsgs ~2 Ekeys/s (2476793317881701990 keys/s)
How much wallet I found IS ZERO  Cry
if i take highest speed
[2022-09-25.21:11:56] [Info] Initializing NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
[2022-09-25.21:11:56] [Info] Generating 50,331,648 starting points (1920.0MB)
[2022-09-25.21:12:03] [Info] 10.0%
[2022-09-25.21:12:03] [Info] 20.0%
[2022-09-25.21:12:04] [Info] 30.0%
[2022-09-25.21:12:04] [Info] 40.0%
[2022-09-25.21:12:04] [Info] 50.0%
[2022-09-25.21:12:04] [Info] 60.0%
[2022-09-25.21:12:04] [Info] 70.0%
[2022-09-25.21:12:05] [Info] 80.0%
[2022-09-25.21:12:05] [Info] 90.0%
[2022-09-25.21:12:05] [Info] 100.0%
[2022-09-25.21:12:05] [Info] Done
NVIDIA GeForce R 5678 / 8192MB | 1 target 1337.45 MKey/s (39,510,343,680 total) [00:00:27]

Why 9 Xeon cpu if a single GPU 3070 can reach 1337 MKey/s?
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Why 9 Xeon cpu if a single GPU 3070 can reach 1337 MKey/s?

Yeah I learn my lesson so all my search now is on GPU.
But you keep talk about going with CPU so I give the advice to go with top one to reduce your lesson time and cost to half  Smiley

In vast.ai the RTX 3070 is 1200 MKey for 0.069h, For month 0.069x24x30=49.68$ half of one dual Xeon server price.
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October 04, 2022, 12:02:06 PM
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The public key usually only used as SSH authentication though, rather than encrypt the host itself.
I agree with that because the data must be available any time uncle sam request it  Smiley
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October 04, 2022, 01:33:13 PM
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The public key usually only used as SSH authentication though, rather than encrypt the host itself.
I agree with that because the data must be available any time uncle sam request it  Smiley
It means that the server owner/employees can read the privkey too.. maybe faster than you (you cannot check it h24)
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October 04, 2022, 02:01:09 PM
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It means that the server owner/employees can read the privkey too.. maybe faster than you (you cannot check it h24)
When accessing the server you can disable any account created by hoster and you can change root password...etc
So the only thing owner/employees can read is the hard disk/SSD without access system.
They can hack you system but you will be know that because you can't access it anymore.
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October 05, 2022, 05:38:35 AM
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Yeah I learn my lesson so all my search now is on GPU.
But you keep talk about going with CPU so I give the advice to go with top one to reduce your lesson time and cost to half  Smiley

In vast.ai the RTX 3070 is 1200 MKey for 0.069h, For month 0.069x24x30=49.68$ half of one dual Xeon server price.
Do you try mainly random or secuential with keyspace small portions?
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October 05, 2022, 07:09:45 AM
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It means that the server owner/employees can read the privkey too.. maybe faster than you (you cannot check it h24)
When accessing the server you can disable any account created by hoster and you can change root password...etc
So the only thing owner/employees can read is the hard disk/SSD without access system.
They can hack you system but you will be know that because you can't access it anymore.

If the operator wants to hack into your own box then why are you renting from them in the first place?

Private key searching is sensitive business, how can you be sure that there aren't a bunch of oscilloscopes hooked up to your server to measure secp256k1 timing frequency, if you have to resort to locking the operator out?

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October 06, 2022, 12:28:24 AM
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hallo,..
need an explanation about multiple addresses.
how is it work?
is it :
1. search key for the first address of the list >> found >> move to 2nd address of the list?
2. search key randomly and match to any addresses on the list?
thanks
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