[ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com

[madmen64]

My Titan says everything is fine, Bfgminer alike, is accepting shares but the website says that in the last hour 0.0 Mh / s accepted.
Problem with the servers?

[bradleyjay]

I'm seeing something similar for the last few hours.  Reported hashrate is not zero, but it's about half of what my miner is reporting and the reject percentage does not seem to account for it.

[TCM]

I have this "phenomenon" regularly. Restarting the miner software usually fixes it.

[phrajola]

Same here on the 0.0kh/s never saw this since few minutes...

[Runnea]

i did check some ppl "profil" out just for fun to day, and i see alot of ppl leaving some amount of btc left on the site. starting to think, if you like change to a new wallet, that btc will be lost for ever, and you can´t crate more btc then the cap is. so that btc will be lost.
And will that make the market less attractive in many years from now?
My english so bad, its really hard to explain. but do you see my point ?

[gurbler]

I forgot a "v" when typing my address.
Original:  1HdmaoovaHSisSXCnxnvJR3RGiZWdbYMn
New:      1HdmaoovaHSisSXCnxnvvJR3RGiZWdbYMn

[suchmoon]

I forgot a "v" when typing my address.
Original:  1HdmaoovaHSisSXCnxnvJR3RGiZWdbYMn
New:      1HdmaoovaHSisSXCnxnvvJR3RGiZWdbYMn

Send a PM to Terk, you might get his attention quicker that way.

Just curious - why did you type the address? Copy-paste is more reliable.

[gurbler]

Typing wallet from phone into the miner/web GUI on the Titan

[suchmoon]

Typing wallet from phone into the miner/web GUI on the Titan

Fair enough. I guess I would have e-mailed the address to myself or something, I'm paranoid of mistakes like that. PM Terk, I'm sure he'll sort you out.

[sven22]

I am allready following Bitcointalk for a few months now, but never registered... But Clevermining, don't you think it's enough now?? You guys are messing up the chain constantly by putting that much hashes in for a few f****** minutes.... Getting coins cheap and sell them UNDERVALUED!!!!!! WTF is wrong, why can't you assholes see what you are doing with our beloved coin???

I believe the people should start showing themselves in this topic...

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALLREADY

[alienesb]

I am allready following Bitcointalk for a few months now, but never registered... But Clevermining, don't you think it's enough now?? You guys are messing up the chain constantly by putting that much hashes in for a few f****** minutes.... Getting coins cheap and sell them UNDERVALUED!!!!!! WTF is wrong, why can't you assholes see what you are doing with our beloved coin???

I believe the people should start showing themselves in this topic...

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALLREADY

Blah blah blah, this is how the game is played son.

[veertje]

Blah blah blah, this is how the game is played son.

You're really in for good accepted crypto or just for fast money raping others. That is no game. I'm in for the first option.
Hope some multipool miners start to think and support good crypto and leave multipools. What is done with Guldencoin is in no way good. 5-10% of the total hashrate is acceptable, not 50-75% and jumping in and out. We asked gently for a temporarily stop of multipoolmining until the chain can handle it better, with less gaps in blocksolving time and selling for low profits. Is that so much to ask? See message of LTEX above.

Right now, the massive hashing power of Clevermining takes over 75% of all hashing on NLG. This results in a rape that lasts only a couple of minutes, leaving the network with extreme high Diff and therefor long transaction times. After the dedicated miners have worked very hard to grasp the last 25% of blocks in the remaining hours, Clever jumps back in when Diff is back to it's low figures again (for a couple of minutes).

Now I must agree that this is indeed a clever algorithm looking from the mining angle. But it doesn't give that much profit that it justifies risking to suck out the life of one of the most promising coins around.

So maybe I can ask this as a community member of NLG to the community members of Clevermining to agree to a temporary stop on mining NLG? Maybe Terk can join in on this and educate us on how this really will affect your profit margins? Maybe if you would understand it will only cost you 0.03% of your profit, its not so much to ask?

Kind regards,

LTEX

Terk, your answer please! You are doing no good   Why no answer?

Miners at Clever are invited mining directly Guldencoin if you also see this is no good and are willing to support a very good coin and don't want to rape. This is no good for crypto in general. Support appreciated. Almost 70 merchants in the Netherlands now and growing and nice projects coming. We can already buy clothes, coffee, beer, wine, get a massage, lasertreatment, buy books, buy design lamps, buy games, buy services, buy Subway sandwiches etc, etc. with Guldencoin. Support crypto, support Guldencoin.

ANN: https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=554412.0
Official website: https://guldencoin.com
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NLG

Mining is possible here:

http://guldenpool.nl:27100
https://nlg.hardcoreminers.com

http://criptoe.com/


Dedicated miners are welcome!   We need you.

[bram_vnl]

pleas don't puse the pice down of guldencoin

[Meije]

I am allready following Bitcointalk for a few months now, but never registered... But Clevermining, don't you think it's enough now?? You guys are messing up the chain constantly by putting that much hashes in for a few f****** minutes.... Getting coins cheap and sell them UNDERVALUED!!!!!! WTF is wrong, why can't you assholes see what you are doing with our beloved coin???

I believe the people should start showing themselves in this topic...

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALLREADY

Blah blah blah, this is how the game is played son.

I am not even going to take the time anymore to say please. Just remember, we do not forget, we do not forgive.

[gurbler]

I am not even going to take the time anymore to say please. Just remember, we do not forget, we do not forgive.

https://i.imgur.com/AsWObyN.jpg

[veertje]

@ gurbler: See you are just new in this miningworld.  Support good crypto, my friend. Way better then to earn some quick bucks here. We welcome you as a dedicated miner.  

[LTEX]

Gentlemen, lets try to stay nice to one another, if there is one thing to learn from this, it's that there is no real way to quick profit in this all.

My view is that this (Guldencoin) has a long term strategy and we therefor have no real urgent sense for battling short term profit scemes like Clevermining. Yes it is a nuisance, but in the long run it is adoption of our coin that counts and will secure our network.

Having said that, the reluctancy of Terk in addressing our handouts, will in the end (same long term) kill your profit model. You see, our dev's have decided to take responsibility into their own hands resulting in a highly advanced test environment that enables all serious coin dev's (so not only NLG) to generate algorithms that are resistant to your raping hash attacks.

So not listening or responding to serious and legit questions of this one coin, might have triggered a deeply rooted motivation of some very capable dev's to create a logical antidote against your own "medicine". Soon there will be a solid base for all coins to protect against your hash-rapes, leaving your network obsolete to real long term profit margins...

Maybe at that point you might realize how foolish it was to dump millions of NLG for only 400sat while you could be holding a large stash of them like the real and dedicated miners have.

It still runs in the back of my mind, that guy who said "Do you believe that sucker, he just sold me a pizza for 10k BTC, that shit isn't worth anything. I'm going to mine some more, maybe I can buy another pizza next week" ....

[suchmoon]

Gentlemen, lets try to stay nice

[...]

Having said that, the reluctancy of Terk in addressing our handouts, will in the end (same long term) kill your profit model. You see, our dev's have decided to take responsibility into their own hands resulting in a highly advanced test environment that enables all serious coin dev's (so not only NLG) to generate algorithms that are resistant to your raping hash attacks.

Not sure I'm getting your point. If you have an antidote, use it. If you wanted to come across as "nice", you utterly failed by using words like "rape".

You seem to be upset that someone doesn't subscribe to your long term holding ideology, but you will not gain any supporters by spamming this thread and certainly will not solve the problem this way. Talk to Terk in private if you have any technical issues to talk about, or just focus on making your coin more resistant to switching pools.

If not CM then another pool will come and do the same thing, so you might as well work on a solution rather than blame.

[alienesb]

Gentlemen, lets try to stay nice

[...]

Having said that, the reluctancy of Terk in addressing our handouts, will in the end (same long term) kill your profit model. You see, our dev's have decided to take responsibility into their own hands resulting in a highly advanced test environment that enables all serious coin dev's (so not only NLG) to generate algorithms that are resistant to your raping hash attacks.

Not sure I'm getting your point. If you have an antidote, use it. If you wanted to come across as "nice", you utterly failed by using words like "rape".

You seem to be upset that someone doesn't subscribe to your long term holding ideology, but you will not gain any supporters by spamming this thread and certainly will not solve the problem this way. Talk to Terk in private if you have any technical issues to talk about, or just focus on making your coin more resistant to switching pools.

If not CM then another pool will come and do the same thing, so you might as well work on a solution rather than blame.

Maybe they need to add a hyperflex capacitor.

[ny2cafuse]

Not sure I'm getting your point. If you have an antidote, use it. If you wanted to come across as "nice", you utterly failed by using words like "rape".

You seem to be upset that someone doesn't subscribe to your long term holding ideology, but you will not gain any supporters by spamming this thread and certainly will not solve the problem this way. Talk to Terk in private if you have any technical issues to talk about, or just focus on making your coin more resistant to switching pools.

If not CM then another pool will come and do the same thing, so you might as well work on a solution rather than blame.

How's it feel to be Terk's mouthpiece?  You seem to fight blindly for him.  Does he pay you much for the effort?  I'm just wondering why you don't let him speak for himself.

The fact that LTEX uses the word rape doesn't change the tone of the conversation.  Your point is moot.  CM does in fact rape the coin, and it's community of their time and money.  Regardless of whether the underlying issue is the algorithm or not, CM is raping NLG.  If 50% of the mined Bitcoin or Litecoin were sold in a day, what do you think the community would say?  If they faced 1 hour delays at the hand of a single pool, what would the community do?

Secondly, where's the spam?  Questions are being asked and Terk's lackeys are fielding them, not Terk himself.  People want answers, and they want them addressed publicly by Terk, not you. 

I would love to see the reasoning behind continuing to manipulate the NLG algorithm, even though developers and the community were trying to work with him in a civil manner when the problem was identified.  At this point one could only think that it is because Terk takes pleasure in doing so.  If that's not the case, then let him publicly state it.  I personally don't care to hear it from anyone but him.  When I spoke with him originally in PM, he seemed cordial.  He agreed to work with the community and reduce the hashrate he pointed at NLG, and then 2 weeks later he continued.  If he is a man of his word, he would be honorable and live up to his agreements.  If he can't keep his word about this situation, what does that say about the way he conducts business?  How could any miner make a conscious decision to blind trust his word after that?  It raises a lot of questions regarding his ethics.

So, Suchmoon, enough with your shilling.  Let your master speak for himself.

-Fuse