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[ryzaadit]

Based on my case, getting banned due multi-account even though the second account is not registered or being played (just my mistake due forget my primary account)... but my account not being banned at the time playing on BetFury. It's mean, they're quite active monitoring the site.... using VPN not really wise from my perspective. You must admit to BetFury team for my case, usually casino will wait banned someone account at the time player winning bigs and get caught during withdraw. But this time is not, they banned my account at the time not playing anymore in BetFury. Better just avoided VPN, If you have some bonus on the game slot is being restricted to your country perhaps contact them and maybe transfer the bonus to other slot game or provider.

[dwyane36]

Based on my case, getting banned due multi-account even though the second account is not registered or being played (just my mistake due forget my primary account)... but my account not being banned at the time playing on BetFury. It's mean, they're quite active monitoring the site.... using VPN not really wise from my perspective. You must admit to BetFury team for my case, usually casino will wait banned someone account at the time player winning bigs and get caught during withdraw. But this time is not, they banned my account at the time not playing anymore in BetFury. Better just avoided VPN, If you have some bonus on the game slot is being restricted to your country perhaps contact them and maybe transfer the bonus to other slot game or provider.

To be honest, it has always seemed like Betfury is very loyal to players who use VPNs. Moreover, Betfury representatives mentioned in this thread that they don't ban users from using VPNs if it doesn't violate their rules. Personally, I have been registered on the Betfury site for several years and constantly use a VPN when accessing their site, and for all this time, there have been no warnings from the Betfury team regarding this.

[ryzaadit]

To be honest, it has always seemed like Betfury is very loyal to players who use VPNs. Moreover, Betfury representatives mentioned in this thread that they don't ban users from using VPNs if it doesn't violate their rules. Personally, I have been registered on the Betfury site for several years and constantly use a VPN when accessing their site, and for all this time, there have been no warnings from the Betfury team regarding this.

Have you ever read a story?

Support tells some users use VPN, and then suddenly got banned due of these reason. I'm never want to play against term & condition, basically you are play against term & conditions you can get a problem. There so many stories, while support advice users to use VPN.

Even, those came from mouth of the team or support. I will never do that's, just be wise.... once you got problem (gonna make your head headache).

[Bitinity]

Generally speaking though, and not specifically about the user complaining about betfury not being available in his region, for that, I would also advice he try the mirror sites as well, if still not available, I believe this shouldnt be a reason for him to lose his spot in the betfury campaign, he can reach out to the campaign manager for an alternative.

Mirrors won't help in this case. If there is a pop-up window showing that a user is from a banned region on the main Betfury domain, the corresponding pop-up windows will appear on all mirrors. In fact, a user won't even be able to register on the Betfury site because of this. So, as you have already mentioned, it's better to contact the manager and try to find an alternative. Or use a VPN, but then a user should realize the possible consequences, i.e. use it only at his own risk.

Exactly, mirrors usually being used to bypass the block by ISPs used by the users. If a casino implement a system where they are blocking certain countries due to terms, mirrors will not be useful because the casino will implement the same thing by blocking those users who are coming from the restricted jurisdictions. In this case, it is not recommended to use VPN because it is obviously breaking the terms of the casino and if we force ourselves to use VPN to bypass the restriction, we should be ready for the risk (banned and maybe our winning will be confiscated).

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[TopTort777]

As I am now also part of the BetFury campaign and I also need a BetFury ID according to my signature, I would like to say that unfortunately exactly what I feared has happened, BetFury is unfortunately not available in my region (centre of Europe).

Is there any chance that this will change in the future?

Do you get this when you access betfury page or some of its sections? I get this (and surprisingly not always) when I open slots from specific provider and sports betting. As far as I know all countries of Central Europe, you should be from Liechtenstein (not likely ) or Slovak Republic. But I see that you post in German local forum; Germany is ok with betfury. You should not be having any issues. Maybe try mirrors to login?

If he gets such prompt whenever he visits betfury websites then there is the possibility of his country being amongst the restricted nations visiting the betfury casino website but if he has no access or is restricted to some sections of the casino games then it might be from the game providers as some of them also have their own restrictions if I am not mistaken and it is not the fault of the casino as they too would also abide by the rules so as not to have any issues in the course of renting services.

Check his post above, he is from Austria, and Austria is among accepted countries to use betfury. But he can not even register. That is strange. If after clicking OK page allows him to stay and not redirects him somewhere, I would ask support for a solution.

High time we actually stop judging where a user is forum based on which local board they post constantly on, for as a matter of fact, any nobody can post on any local board with the help of translators, I have a Nigerian friend on this forum who has never posted on our local board, but from time to time does post in the Spanish local board using translators to make his texts in English understandable by his Spanish friends.

I know that forum is full of interesting people to talk with, but the logic posting translated text in English for Spanish local board is sick. Why not post in Spanish if he wants to speak with them so much? If someone posts in English in Russian local board, people will give him a strange look on him and be suspicious.

[Pmalek]

Check his post above, he is from Austria, and Austria is among accepted countries to use betfury. But he can not even register. That is strange.

No, not really. Both Austria, Germany, and Switzerland are on the list of restricted jurisdictions, and players from those countries are not allowed to create accounts and gamble on Betfury.

Here is the part of their terms and conditions that mentions that:

For various legal or commercial reasons, we do not permit accounts to be opened or used by customers resident in certain jurisdictions, including but not limited to:

Afghanistan, Aruba, Algeria, Antigua & Barbuda, Australia, Austria, Belarus, Bahrain, Belgium, Bhutan, Brunei, Central African Republic, Chad, Côte d'Ivoire, Croatia, Cuba, Czech Republic, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea), Democratic Republic of the Congo, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Guinea-Bissau, Hungary, Iran, Iraq, Iceland, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Kuwait, Latvia, Liberia, Lithuania, Mali, Malta, Myanmar, Netherlands, Netherlands Antilles (Curacao, Sint Maarten, Bonaire, Sint Eustatius, and Saba, Aruba), Norway, Oman, Palestine,Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russia,Saba, Saint Martin, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Slovenia, Somalia, Spain, Statia, Switzerland, Syrian Arab Republic, Sudan, Trinidad and Tobago, Turkey, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United Arab Emirates, United States (and its dependencies, military bases and territories i.e. U.S. Minor Outlying Islands, U.S. Virgin Islands), Vanuatu, Yemen,Zimbabwe.

It's quite a long list actually. The usual banned regions you often find in Curacao-licensed casinos, like the UK, USA, France, and Netherlands are also there.

[TopTort777]

Damn... I think I have misinterpret that "but not limited to:"... I though that this is the list of accepted countries, and the rest are allowed to gamble. But it looks strange then. Almost as if every European country is prohibited to gamble. Cant see China in the list, but gambling is illegal there. I am confused. Turns out then that I am using it for years, even though my country is in the list

[btcltcdigger]

Well, if you ever get a big win and try to cash out, trust me, they will check the list and call you up on it.
As long as you spend money with them and don't win more than you spent, they turn a blind eye

[ryzaadit]

Well, if you ever get a big win and try to cash out, trust me, they will check the list and call you up on it.
As long as you spend money with them and don't win more than you spent, they turn a blind eye

Lucky, my banned account is not at the time playing with some money on the site. It's after my hiatus..... TBH my PNL could be negative in Betfury but still they banned my account. For sportbets, these one can be happens since most of casino is always have some problem with sportbet user especially while is come about arbitrage or robots things. I curious, If the player play only CASINO + PnL positive. Did they still gonna to chase him or not ~XD.

[Zwei]

Damn... I think I have misinterpret that "but not limited to:"... I though that this is the list of accepted countries, and the rest are allowed to gamble. But it looks strange then. Almost as if every European country is prohibited to gamble. Cant see China in the list, but gambling is illegal there. I am confused. Turns out then that I am using it for years, even though my country is in the list

i wonder how you were able to make an account in the first place?
betfury has geo blocking, so everyone from a restricted country should see something like this:

woop woop, that's the sound of da police

[TopTort777]

Damn... I think I have misinterpret that "but not limited to:"... I though that this is the list of accepted countries, and the rest are allowed to gamble. But it looks strange then. Almost as if every European country is prohibited to gamble. Cant see China in the list, but gambling is illegal there. I am confused. Turns out then that I am using it for years, even though my country is in the list

i wonder how you were able to make an account in the first place?
betfury has geo blocking, so everyone from a restricted country should see something like this:

That is what I am saying I have an account that for 4 or 5 years already, been playing there for a while, return from time to time. Whenever I open slots from some providers. I get a different warning sign when I click on sports:

"ACCESS DENIED. BetFury Sportbetting is not available for your region. If you are using a VPN or proxy service, try to turn it off to be able to log in. For any questions, please contact our customer support service"

With the flag of my country and my IP displayed. So yes, geo blocking works, but works partly for me

[Don Pedro Dinero]

betfury has geo blocking,

Are you sure about that?

Damn... I think I have misinterpret that "but not limited to:"... I though that this is the list of accepted countries, and the rest are allowed to gamble. But it looks strange then. Almost as if every European country is prohibited to gamble. Cant see China in the list, but gambling is illegal there. I am confused. Turns out then that I am using it for years, even though my country is in the list

With the ‘not limited to’ they cover their backs. It also says just after that:

or other restricted jurisdictions ("Restricted Jurisdiction") that are reported by us from time to time. By using the Website you confirm you are not a resident in a Restricted Jurisdiction.

So that includes China, even though it isn't mentioned explicitly. Most European countries require an exclusive licence from that country in order to offer gambling services to their residents, which is nothing new. I think all the ToS I have seen look pretty much the same.

[Zwei]

betfury has geo blocking,

Are you sure about that?

i'm not sure about that anymore.

i assumed if one country (Germany) from the list is restricted, then the rest would be too. i tested again with IP's from different countries this time to be sure, and it turned out some are geo blocked and some are not. so i guess i was wrong.
for example, Germany and Turkey are blocked, but Romania and Norway are not.
the only difference between them is that you can still pick Romania and Norway as your country of residence on signup.

[dwyane36]

Damn... I think I have misinterpret that "but not limited to:"... I though that this is the list of accepted countries, and the rest are allowed to gamble. But it looks strange then. Almost as if every European country is prohibited to gamble. Cant see China in the list, but gambling is illegal there. I am confused. Turns out then that I am using it for years, even though my country is in the list

i wonder how you were able to make an account in the first place?
betfury has geo blocking, so everyone from a restricted country should see something like this:

This geo-blocking pop-up window appeared relatively recently on the Betfury website. Previously, it was possible to register on the site without any problems, even if the user's country was listed as a banned jurisdiction.
By the way, it's worth noting that in some cases, this pop-up window doesn't appear at all if you access the Betfury site via the mobile Telegram app. I've noticed this a few times, but maybe it's just a bug.

[Pmalek]

Damn... I think I have misinterpret that "but not limited to:"... I though that this is the list of accepted countries, and the rest are allowed to gamble. But it looks strange then. Almost as if every European country is prohibited to gamble. Cant see China in the list, but gambling is illegal there.

Many of the countries on the list are common for all Curacao-licensed online casinos. If you pick a few random ones and check their terms, you will notice the same jurisdictions being banned. It's the licensing authority that bans those regions. A casino would happily operate with as few restrictions as possible as it's in their interest to be able to attract as many players as possible.

i wonder how you were able to make an account in the first place?
betfury has geo blocking, so everyone from a restricted country should see something like this:

Betfury has geo-blocking, you are right. When I visit the casino (not logged in) with the VPN that I access Bitcointalk with, I see a warning message that I am vising the site from a restricted territory. Perhaps that wasn't the case in the past when he opened his account.

[TopTort777]

I havent made a search, but isnt Curacao licenses are different? I think every single crypto casino I have played, have that Curacao license, but experience is different from casino to casino. Sports is not available for my country on BetFury, but is available at Duelbits. Some slots dont open, but they can be played on Duelbits or Stake. Fun fact, providers are different. Who would have though, that Evolution for example, opens and does not open in two casinos while joining with same IP. And every live casino game in every casino is not available at my region.

[bitmover]

Betfury has geo-blocking, you are right. When I visit the casino (not logged in) with the VPN that I access Bitcointalk with, I see a warning message that I am vising the site from a restricted territory. Perhaps that wasn't the case in the past when he opened his account.

Have you tried different mirrors ?
Sometimes a geoblock feature isn't available in all mirrors, so different domains may work.

Such as those:
betfury.io
betfury.ai
betfury.gg
betfury.so

Full list here
https://betfury-mirrors.io/


I am not sure if betfury.com is legit. Is it? Looks the same website too

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I havent made a search, but isnt Curacao licenses are different? I think every single crypto casino I have played, have that Curacao license, but experience is different from casino to casino. Sports is not available for my country on BetFury, but is available at Duelbits. Some slots dont open, but they can be played on Duelbits or Stake. Fun fact, providers are different. Who would have though, that Evolution for example, opens and does not open in two casinos while joining with same IP. And every live casino game in every casino is not available at my region.

Well, I guess it's not too hard to say or see that Curaçao license is a very low value license, it's very easy to obtain, when most casinos that turn out to be scam casinos usually own and operate with this license before they go rog on their users, this i would say is the cheapest gambling license any casino can get before or after shooting into the gambling market.
But the question is, why do casinos still go for this license even when it's of low value?

Personally, I would say the answer is for formality sake, a casino operating with a government issued license is rated way higher than the casino that is not operating with a license at all, and most gamblers don't bother which government or country issued the license, what gambler think is "for the casino to get approval from any government around the world, it simply means they are legitimate".

[Pandu Geddon]

I havent made a search, but isnt Curacao licenses are different? I think every single crypto casino I have played, have that Curacao license, but experience is different from casino to casino. Sports is not available for my country on BetFury, but is available at Duelbits. Some slots dont open, but they can be played on Duelbits or Stake. Fun fact, providers are different. Who would have though, that Evolution for example, opens and does not open in two casinos while joining with same IP. And every live casino game in every casino is not available at my region.

Well, I guess it's not too hard to say or see that Curaçao license is a very low value license, it's very easy to obtain, when most casinos that turn out to be scam casinos usually own and operate with this license before they go rog on their users, this i would say is the cheapest gambling license any casino can get before or after shooting into the gambling market.
But the question is, why do casinos still go for this license even when it's of low value?

Personally, I would say the answer is for formality sake, a casino operating with a government issued license is rated way higher than the casino that is not operating with a license at all, and most gamblers don't bother which government or country issued the license, what gambler think is "for the casino to get approval from any government around the world, it simply means they are legitimate".

Maybe true that what they want is a Legal label to run a casino business. I don't think many, or only a few, platform users will think about all that. The most important thing for users is to enjoy the game, instant deposits and withdrawals. as well as monthly or weekly bonuses that may be entertaining.
Maybe if bad things happen, then users will see and look for more detailed information related to the casino, such as the license they have or others. Ownership of a license will be important for every business actor. Regarding its value, which may be considered low or high, users will feel more about whether the casino will be good enough or not for them.