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July 27, 2021, 10:28:53 AM
Last edit: July 27, 2021, 10:26:07 PM by hornetsnest
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is paid influencers with a title that makes them sound trusting





Yes,Pregnant plebians who see ze good doctor smoking the menthol woodbine would be easily influenced by this medical professional. The same "professionals" advising your guberment today have sponsorships that would make your professional athletes look like amateurs and snakeoil salesmen look honest.

So can the right hon genT confirm as to whether that is a yea or a nay  Cool

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July 28, 2021, 04:08:57 AM
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FDA considers mRNA a gene therapy product, the debate as-with settled.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm

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July 28, 2021, 04:24:43 AM
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FDA considers mRNA a gene therapy product, the debate as-with settled.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm

Are you just posting random links now with bullshit statements attached to them in hope that people won't read them? The link is just financial information.

People who call mRNA vaccines "gene therapy" have not read anything about neither of these different scientific fields.

Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

Those who can not read, can watch this video called "Can mRNA Vaccines Alter a Person’s DNA?" in which Dr. Paul Offit explains why it’s not possible for mRNA vaccines to alter a person’s DNA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGKg9rj9W1s&ab_channel=TheChildren%27sHospitalofPhiladelphia
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FDA considers mRNA a gene therapy product, the debate as-with settled.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm

Are you just posting random links now with bullshit statements attached to them in hope that people won't read them? The link is just financial information.

People who call mRNA vaccines "gene therapy" have not read anything about neither of these different scientific fields.


Here's a handly little trick which works on most browsers.  <ctl-f> brings up a search function where you will immediately find such things as:

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Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA.

Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html
...

The marketing departments and state department psychological groups have determined that it's bad publicity to force experimental gene therapy injections on people.  Unfortunately for them, it takes a while for re-definitions to work their way through the systems.  In the mean time, mRNA injections continue to be 'gene therapy' as any logical person who has even a tiny amount of knowledge about the subjects can plainly see.

Reading the CDC's 'facts.html' serves as a great illustration of how duplicitous this wing of the medical/industrial complex is.  It's full from start to finish with the worst kind of obvious propaganda techniques.  The FDA is lagging the CDC, but will get there soon.


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July 28, 2021, 01:06:48 PM
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What's interesting is that most of the medicine we use is tested in 3 phases during clinical trials and it goes through maximum around 50000 people (some are tested on no more than 15-20k), before it is granted market authorisation. Then it enters the IV stage post-marketing assessment- where it's used in the public. As for the vaccines they are used on more than 1 000 000 000, so you can do the math. But the medicine are tested around 10 years, not like the vaccines which are 1-2 years old.
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July 28, 2021, 02:42:53 PM
Last edit: July 28, 2021, 03:07:22 PM by beertoll
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FDA considers mRNA a gene therapy product, the debate as-with settled.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm

Are you just posting random links now with bullshit statements attached to them in hope that people won't read them? The link is just financial information.

People who call mRNA vaccines "gene therapy" have not read anything about neither of these different scientific fields.


Here's a handly little trick which works on most browsers.  <ctl-f> brings up a search function where you will immediately find such things as:

Code:
Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA.

Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html
...

The marketing departments and state department psychological groups have determined that it's bad publicity to force experimental gene therapy injections on people.  Unfortunately for them, it takes a while for re-definitions to work their way through the systems.  In the mean time, mRNA injections continue to be 'gene therapy' as any logical person who has even a tiny amount of knowledge about the subjects can plainly see.

Reading the CDC's 'facts.html' serves as a great illustration of how duplicitous this wing of the medical/industrial complex is.  It's full from start to finish with the worst kind of obvious propaganda techniques.  The FDA is lagging the CDC, but will get there soon.



This is an excerpt from the link to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that the other guy posted and which you are using as proof:
 "...mRNA-based medicines are designed to not irreversibly change cell DNA; however, side effects observed in gene therapy could negatively impact the perception of mRNA medicines despite the differences in mechanism."

They are talking about you. Because everything is the same to you if it contains the word DNA, it "negatively impacts the [your] perception of mRNA medicines despite the differences in the mechanism."

Use your little trick with Ctrl + F to find this excerpt.


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The marketing departments and state department psychological groups have determined that it's bad publicity to force experimental gene therapy injections on people." Reading the CDC's 'facts.html' serves as a great illustration of how duplicitous this wing of the medical/industrial complex is. It's full from start to finish with the worst kind of obvious propaganda techniques.
You decided that. There is no proof (like in most of the posts of this nature) and thousands of reputable sources such as governmental agencies, research labs universities, clinics, and so on, state exactly the same facts as CDC. Moreover, many governmental agencies, research labs universities, clinics around the world confirm the efficacy and safety of mRNA vacines. You've made your mind and no amount of evidence will change it. You will continue to source information from Facebook posts and random iffy blogs on the internet.
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July 28, 2021, 03:05:19 PM
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BREAKING: Pfizer study shows that third dose of coronavirus vaccine is associated with a five-fold increase in antibodies in those aged 18-55 and an eleven-fold increase in those aged 65-85.

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BREAKING: Pfizer study shows that third dose of coronavirus vaccine is associated with a five-fold increase in antibodies in those aged 18-55 and an eleven-fold increase in those aged 65-85.

Someone please explain this in bitcoin terms?

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July 28, 2021, 05:32:56 PM
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FDA considers mRNA a gene therapy product, the debate as-with settled.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm

Are you just posting random links now with bullshit statements attached to them in hope that people won't read them? The link is just financial information.

People who call mRNA vaccines "gene therapy" have not read anything about neither of these different scientific fields.


Here's a handly little trick which works on most browsers.  <ctl-f> brings up a search function where you will immediately find such things as:

Code:
Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA.

Myths and Facts about COVID-19 Vaccines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html
...

The marketing departments and state department psychological groups have determined that it's bad publicity to force experimental gene therapy injections on people.  Unfortunately for them, it takes a while for re-definitions to work their way through the systems.  In the mean time, mRNA injections continue to be 'gene therapy' as any logical person who has even a tiny amount of knowledge about the subjects can plainly see.

Reading the CDC's 'facts.html' serves as a great illustration of how duplicitous this wing of the medical/industrial complex is.  It's full from start to finish with the worst kind of obvious propaganda techniques.  The FDA is lagging the CDC, but will get there soon.



Sometimes you're pretty good at making it seem like you know what you're talking about.  Or at least difficult to expose how full of shit you really are. This isn't one of those times.

As beertolls already pointed out, the way you quoted just the first sentence from the paragraph below to defend Tash's argument makes you a shitty troll, a clueless idiot that doesn't care about the facts, or both.

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July 29, 2021, 04:43:34 AM
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Is it not a bit late to finally admit the graphene oxide injection "vaccine" does not work and does harm the shot victim
https://twitter.com/pfizer/status/1420474141686255624



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Is it not a bit late to finally admit the graphene oxide injection is not helpful
https://twitter.com/pfizer/status/1420474141686255624




proudly avoided hospitals and doctors for a loooooooong time, when i was a kid i got injured from sports and i did get into a hospital.

sadly watched hospitals grew in numbers proportional to malls through the years.

no doctors from where i live have a record sheet of me.

as for natural medicines/knowledge--you have the internet and local knowledge if you can get them  Wink
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Is it not a bit late to finally admit the graphene oxide injection is not helpful
https://twitter.com/pfizer/status/1420474141686255624


https://i.ibb.co/wMzNNhP/Untitled-5.jpg

proudly avoided hospitals and doctors for a loooooooong time, when i was a kid i got injured from sports and i did get into a hospital.

sadly watched hospitals grew in numbers proportional to malls through the years.

no doctors from where i live have a record sheet of me.

as for natural medicines/knowledge--you have the internet and local knowledge if you can get them  Wink

You say it right, don't depend too much on the hospital, we have to live in harmony with nature, nature has a lot of gifts for us that we don't know. And you are right now we have internet and let's learn it learn more knowledge
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I saved my father's life by getting him away from a drug for Parkinsons which he didn't have, and away from the doctor who was pushing it on him.  His symptoms were classic for an excess of it, and I found the information on-line rather easily (back in 2001...search engines used to work back in the old days, but Google was just getting started on it's monopoly and was not a household name.)

My sister saved my mother who was very near death from chemo.  The nurse was doubling the dose.  When the one good doctor who was involved in her care found out he flipped out.  Dunno what happened to the 'angle of mercy' for her 'oversight' because by that time Mom was done.  This happened just last year.  I will say the death by overdose of chemo drugs is obviously not a quick or pleasant way to go.

These are not the only people in my direct family who have had such incidents either.  I really have to wonder if some people in the medical 'care' field don't work under a quota system and get compensated for money they save society...by killing people.

So, I couldn't agree with the good doctor more, and certainly it is the way I live (and maybe the reason I live.)


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July 29, 2021, 11:02:13 AM
Last edit: July 29, 2021, 01:32:11 PM by mindrust
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I saved my father's life by getting him away from a drug for Parkinsons which he didn't have, and away from the doctor who was pushing it on him.  His symptoms were classic for an excess of it, and I found the information on-line rather easily (back in 2001...search engines used to work back in the old days, but Google was just getting started on it's monopoly and was not a household name.)

My sister saved my mother who was very near death from chemo.  The nurse was doubling the dose.  When the one good doctor who was involved in her care found out he flipped out.  Dunno what happened to the 'angle of mercy' for her 'oversight' because by that time Mom was done.  This happened just last year.  I will say the death by overdose of chemo drugs is obviously not a quick or pleasant way to go.

These are not the only people in my direct family who have had such incidents either.  I really have to wonder if some people in the medical 'care' field don't work under a quota system and get compensated for money they save society...by killing people.

So, I couldn't agree with the good doctor more, and certainly it is the way I live (and maybe the reason I live.)

If you don't know your body well enough and not take care of it, nobody will take care of it better than you.

Even a doctor.

Doctors and nurses are just employees waiting for their next pay check. Patients come and go (and die) all the time. To them it is just the way of life. You are just another number. They will do whatever they learned in the medical school to improve your health but that's it. They will ignore the little details about you.

If you eat shit, you become shit. Stay stagnant, your body becomes stagnant. You are your best doctor. And sometimes you just run out of time...

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July 29, 2021, 11:19:10 AM
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Doctors and nurses are just employees waiting for their next pay check. Patients come and go (and die) all the time. To them it is just the way of life. You are just another number. They will do whatever they learned in the medical school to improve your health but that's it. They will ignore the little details about you.


I had a good friend who was an OR nurse one time.  Their motto was "The bleeding always stops."

She also told me about an instance when a visiting surgeon hooked up a heart/lung machine backwards so it was pumping blood the wrong way.  When they figured it out after about 10 minutes it was to late and the guy died.  All the doctors and nurses involved kept their mouths shut and nobody knew what happened beyond 'he died in surgery.'

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Edit:  For the benefit of the highly vaxxed millennials: 'the bleeding always stops' (spoken in dead-pan) means that the patient always follows one of two paths: they survive or they die.  No need to get too excited because the problem will go away one way or another.


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July 29, 2021, 02:21:30 PM
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200 years of public health has doubled our life expectancy:
Source: https://sjbpublichealth.org/200-years-public-health-doubled-life-expectancy/



Source: https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy


Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.
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July 29, 2021, 02:29:28 PM
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200 years of public health has doubled our life expectancy:
Source: https://sjbpublichealth.org/200-years-public-health-doubled-life-expectancy/



Source: https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy


Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.

Adam died at age 930 years (Gen 5:5),
Noah at 950 years (Gen 9:29) and Methuselah (Noah’s grandfather) was the oldest of them all, dying when he was 969 years old (Gen 5:27)

Learn at least the basics




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July 29, 2021, 02:31:58 PM
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Adam died at age 930 years (Gen 5:5),
Noah at 950 years (Gen 9:29) and Methuselah (Noah’s grandfather) was the oldest of them all, dying when he was 969 years old (Gen 5:27)

Learn at least the basics

Don't tell me that you actually believe this shit.

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July 29, 2021, 02:34:08 PM
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200 years of public health has doubled our life expectancy:
Source: https://sjbpublichealth.org/200-years-public-health-doubled-life-expectancy/


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Source: https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy


Cavemen who "lived in harmony with nature" were lucky if they lived to be 25.

how many wars are inside that 200 years?

how many technological advances and discovery aside from public health helped humans thrive? if you keep on digging you'll find many.

the modern day caveman who is in harmony with nature, has a freezer full of quality meats, refrigerator filled with produce, quality oils from anywhere in the world, got supplements like d3, zinc, herbs/essential oils that can be used as medicine if feeling unwell, a home gym or somewhere he can exercise, has the internet to find info if there is something missing or needed etc..

i can go on and on LOL  Wink
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