Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[sotelorene]

"Why Buying and Holding Bitcoin Makes Sense: A Long-Term Perspective"

Bitcoin has proven to be one of the most revolutionary financial innovations in history. Here’s why buying and holding Bitcoin isn’t just a strategy—it’s a smart move:

1. Bitcoin’s Performance Over the Years
Bitcoin has consistently outperformed traditional assets like stocks and gold over the past decade.
📈 Historical Proof:

In 2013, Bitcoin was worth around $100. Today, it's trading above $94,000 (as of Dec 2024). That’s an increase of over 94,000% in just 11 years.
Even during market corrections, Bitcoin has recovered and reached new highs after every major dip.
2. Limited Supply Drives Value
Bitcoin's supply is capped at 21 million coins, creating scarcity similar to gold.

Proof of Scarcity: Over 19.5 million BTC have already been mined, and the final Bitcoin won’t be mined until 2140. This limited supply, combined with increasing global demand, ensures upward pressure on prices over time.
3. Institutional Adoption
Major financial players are entering the Bitcoin space, signaling confidence in its long-term value.

Proof: Companies like BlackRock, Fidelity, and MicroStrategy have heavily invested in Bitcoin. BlackRock’s Bitcoin ETF approval in 2024 has further legitimized it as a mainstream asset.
Even countries like El Salvador have adopted Bitcoin as legal tender.
4. HODLers Win the Long Game
Bitcoin rewards those who hold through market cycles.

Proof: According to on-chain data from Glassnode, wallets that hold Bitcoin for 3+ years (long-term HODLers) consistently see significant gains.
Example: Those who bought Bitcoin during the 2018 crash at $3,000 and held are now sitting on a 30x return.
5. Halving Cycles Boost Price
Bitcoin’s halving events (every 4 years) reduce the supply of new coins, often leading to price surges.

Proof:
After the 2020 halving, Bitcoin rose from $9,000 to an all-time high of $69,000 in 2021.
The next halving in 2024 is expected to create another supply shock, driving prices higher.
6. Global Hedge Against Inflation
With central banks printing money, fiat currencies are losing value. Bitcoin’s deflationary model makes it a powerful hedge against inflation.

Proof: Bitcoin adoption in countries with unstable currencies (e.g., Venezuela, Turkey) shows its role as a store of value.
Final Thought
Bitcoin isn’t just an investment; it’s a revolution. History has shown that those who buy and hold Bitcoin reap the rewards of its long-term growth. As billionaire investor Paul Tudor Jones once said, "Bitcoin is a great speculation... the best inflation hedge in the financial world today."

Now is the time to embrace this financial evolution. Don’t just watch history happen—be part of it. 🚀

Are these your own words, @Megaboss12?  

On the surface, since are a newbie, it appears to me that you are citing from somewhere else, yet failing to give proper attributions, which also could be considered plagiarism, which is against forum rules... and surely, even if it is your own words, you probably should be clarifying that these are your own words, if they were to be your own words.

Another possibility is that AI wrote your post, since why would any real newbie member write a post like yours when other members hardly even know you?

Maybe some member can run a check on this post to see if it is taken from somewhere else or if it might be written by artificial intelligence rather than being with Megaboss12's actual creation of words?

Relatedly:  your earlier post (cited below)  @Megaboss12 also has a similar issue in terms of questionable attribution, in which the whole text of your post is quoted, which is confusing at best.

Did you write this earlier post yourself or are you quoting some other member?  or some other person outside of the forum or did you have AI write your post?

As a new forum member, you should be trying to post like a human rather than a bot... if you happen to be a human rather than a bot.

You are really making sense here, their is a saying in my country which say; slow progress is a progress, as long as you don't stop.
So the most important thing here is consistency, especially when you don't have the capacity to buy in bulk like microstrategy did.
And the DCA accumulating strategy is the best way to follow, because you will have to be buying weekly or monthly according to how much you can afford to do away without for a very long time, without tempering with it.
But we should not forget that the key thing there is consistency, without that nothing great can be achieved.

Investing requires confidence, patience, consistency in buying, and also having income every month or every week.
If that is complete we can arrange the purchases we will make with various strategies, and in general DCA is easier to understand so we prefer to invest in bitcoin with the DCA strategy.

And also a target is needed in the investment we make. We invest of course the big target is profit without profit we are unlikely to be interested in investing. Yes, that's a reasonable problem, I mean if we target an initial investment of around 10 years with regular purchases with DCA then when we reach the final stage we will calculate the profit we get.

"Your perspective is spot on! Investing in Bitcoin with a DCA strategy is indeed a practical and disciplined approach. The combination of confidence, patience, and consistent income lays the foundation for successful long-term investing. By breaking down investments into smaller, regular purchases, DCA minimizes the emotional stress of market fluctuations and ensures steady accumulation over time.

I also appreciate the emphasis on having a clear profit-oriented goal. Setting a 10-year horizon gives your investment enough time to potentially grow significantly, especially given Bitcoin's historical performance and increasing adoption. The idea of evaluating the profits at the final stage makes perfect sense—it’s a crucial step to measure success and refine future strategies.

With this approach, you’re not just investing; you’re creating a well-structured plan that aligns with your financial capacity and targets. It’s practical, thoughtful, and most importantly, sustainable. Patience and consistency truly are key here!"

I totally understand what you're saying ... I join this forum some  few months ago and I barely understood the discussions as much as I wanted to.... So I kept myself away from a while, engaged in intense researches. My post are a reflection of the information I got from my numerous researches. I post them here so an expert could authenticate how accurate they are before I flow with them. They get you clearly you are saying that if the club we fan let me say I'm a Real Madrid fan and when betting I don't best against Real Madrid if I can still find success, well the question will depend on the team or club my fan club is playing with and whether my club or team is inform or not because I can't bet against my club when I know the chance of them wining is very big and I can't also bet my club to win when I know the chance of them winning is very small so these are things I will have to consider before against myself or not and sometimes even when we bet against ourselves we won't still win and also sometimes when we don't bet against ourselves we won't win also because we just predicting the possible outcome that is not certain. sound more AI as AI also assist in my researches, But they're actually my words... I hope to learn more from this platform... Any well meaning assistance will be appreciated.

In as much as using AI to prepare a thread or post is not allowed or is prohibited per say you should also understand that AI can't give you everything I mean the right information because I know they are limited to some extent and sometimes what AI gives, is something that looks like what you seek from it but not exactly or original of it for these reasons it will be safe for you to avoid it. when they said our brain is more than that of a computer sometimes we doubt and sometimes some people don't believe it but it is absolutely true.

However, just like you said that you stared few months ago and it is practically and humanly impossible to grasp everything now perhaps you should give it more time to.... so you shouldn't be in haste before you lead yourself into problem, this discussion or this board is not just an ordinary discussion board but rather a discussion where you don't have to misunderstood things or rush things, how long you joined the forum doesn't matter rather what matters is that at the end of the day you are able to make a difference.

[NewRanger]

However, just like you said that you stared few months ago and it is practically and humanly impossible to grasp everything now perhaps you should give it more time to.... so you shouldn't be in haste before you lead yourself into problem, this discussion or this board is not just an ordinary discussion board but rather a discussion where you don't have to misunderstood things or rush things, how long you joined the forum doesn't matter rather what matters is that at the end of the day you are able to make a difference.

I think it's better to do it properly and normally, buying BTC with DCA is most comfortable to do manually, if it feels right, just buy and buy according to our financial capabilities.

Everything that looks sophisticated and is considered helpful has an expiration date and will be abandoned, especially if it is problematic and deviates from the desired function.

Investing must be relaxed.

[Fara Chan]

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Well, I will have to agree on this one cause the rate at which BTC is pumping right now, the cost of frontloading your investment portfolio into Bitcoin will be really expensive, but hey you never can tell, someone with a deep pocket can just do it (still a presumption thought)

Such a thing does not need to be assumed because most people can also see that at this time there are already many rich people with deep pockets who want to buy Bitcoin without thinking about the expensive costs. Because people who already understand Bitcoin will never stop buying Bitcoin and they will even continue to be enthusiastic in buying when they see the price of Bitcoin which has increased. But if you do not have deep enough pockets to be able to buy Bitcoin in large quantities, you can still buy it little by little because that can also be a good option for people who do not have that much money.

[FortuneFollower]

I think it's better to do it properly and normally, buying BTC with DCA is most comfortable to do manually, if it feels right, just buy and buy according to our financial capabilities.

Everything that looks sophisticated and is considered helpful has an expiration date and will be abandoned, especially if it is problematic and deviates from the desired function.

Investing must be relaxed.

Investing is about analysis and peace within yourself because you know what you are doing and you know you can reach what you aim for in the months / years to come.
At least that's how I view it.

[ultrloa]

I think it's better to do it properly and normally, buying BTC with DCA is most comfortable to do manually, if it feels right, just buy and buy according to our financial capabilities.

Everything that looks sophisticated and is considered helpful has an expiration date and will be abandoned, especially if it is problematic and deviates from the desired function.

Investing must be relaxed.

Investing is about analysis and peace within yourself because you know what you are doing and you know you can reach what you aim for in the months / years to come.
At least that's how I view it.

What kind of analyzation skill you need before buying and to HODL bitcoin? I guess the mechanics for this kind of investment is pretty simple. There's no need for you to dive deeply on technicalities before you execute your buy orders since usually that situation is for trading. People here discourage to do that especially if the discussions here is all about buying bitcoin then HODL. Trading is risky practice and not advisable for newbies to get involve with it since this is how they would lose their money faster especially the market is known for its volatile characteristic.

People don't need to experience any heavy pressure towards accumulating Bitcoin since buying and using DCA method is so simple, for sure lots of people could easily understand it if they are just really interested to invest on Bitcoin and not greedy to chase for risky get rich quick schemes.

[Rabata]

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Well, I will have to agree on this one cause the rate at which BTC is pumping right now, the cost of frontloading your investment portfolio into Bitcoin will be really expensive, but hey you never can tell, someone with a deep pocket can just do it (still a presumption thought)

Such a thing does not need to be assumed because most people can also see that at this time there are already many rich people with deep pockets who want to buy Bitcoin without thinking about the expensive costs. Because people who already understand Bitcoin will never stop buying Bitcoin and they will even continue to be enthusiastic in buying when they see the price of Bitcoin which has increased. But if you do not have deep enough pockets to be able to buy Bitcoin in large quantities, you can still buy it little by little because that can also be a good option for people who do not have that much money.

Bitcoin is an opportunity for some and a regret for others. Those who were surprised by the price of Bitcoin in 2020 and refrained from buying Bitcoin are at a high level of regret today. The sad thing is that even if they have the ability to buy Bitcoin, they will not be able to buy Bitcoin at that price. However, the happy thing is that there are still many who know about Bitcoin but due to lack of proper knowledge, they are not able to invest. Those who have learned about Bitcoin are lucky, especially those who have learned about Bitcoin through this thread or any other means and are holding Bitcoin. It is not possible for everyone to spend a huge amount of money to buy Bitcoin. Therefore, those who have less money or those who want to hold Bitcoin regularly for long time can follow DCA. There are many who had money but neglected it, but those who did not start holding Bitcoin despite knowing will have to buy Bitcoin at a higher price with in few days.

[Agbamoni]

I think it's better to do it properly and normally, buying BTC with DCA is most comfortable to do manually, if it feels right, just buy and buy according to our financial capabilities.

Everything that looks sophisticated and is considered helpful has an expiration date and will be abandoned, especially if it is problematic and deviates from the desired function.

Investing must be relaxed.

Investing is about analysis and peace within yourself because you know what you are doing and you know you can reach what you aim for in the months / years to come.
At least that's how I view it.

I wonder where you guys get all this information - "Investing must be relaxed, "Investing is all about peace", "because you know what you are doing" To achieve all of these comes with a cost which implies that there must be discipline, consistency and steadily accumulation.

Even with the best analysis, we are never certain about the outcomes. Markets are unpredictable and if we don't adapt to a safer method of investing, we are basically leaving things to change. I bet that is where DCA falls into place.

Peace can come when we adapt a strategy that is less risky which we all know that DCA has proven to be one of the strategies that reduces risk since you don't get to be checking at the price of Bitcoin often.

[FortuneFollower]

I think it's better to do it properly and normally, buying BTC with DCA is most comfortable to do manually, if it feels right, just buy and buy according to our financial capabilities.

Everything that looks sophisticated and is considered helpful has an expiration date and will be abandoned, especially if it is problematic and deviates from the desired function.

Investing must be relaxed.

Investing is about analysis and peace within yourself because you know what you are doing and you know you can reach what you aim for in the months / years to come.
At least that's how I view it.

I wonder where you guys get all this information - "Investing must be relaxed, "Investing is all about peace", "because you know what you are doing" To achieve all of these comes with a cost which implies that there must be discipline, consistency and steadily accumulation.

Even with the best analysis, we are never certain about the outcomes. Markets are unpredictable and if we don't adapt to a safer method of investing, we are basically leaving things to change. I bet that is where DCA falls into place.

Peace can come when we adapt a strategy that is less risky which we all know that DCA has proven to be one of the strategies that reduces risk since you don't get to be checking at the price of Bitcoin often.

Investing comes from knowledge. Knowing how it behaves on the market and believing in the thing that you invest.
And if you do things correctly, backing them up with facts and doing it responsibly - you won't spend a nerve on your investment while it dips and changes through time.
That would be what I was talking about.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

Putting the time or period you created this thread, which was as far back as march this year, we need no soothsayer to tell that that time was a buy buy buy time, looking and seeing how much the price of bitcoin (and some other major cryptocurrencies) have grown since then till date.

The market can be very trickish most of the time, making winning seem very difficult, it takes good discipline and patience to win, do you research and invest in your conviction, (that is) in the coin or token you are well convinced about its future success, and simply forget about it, act like you've lost that money and allow the market do it's thing, winning is sure at the end if indeed, you made the right choice of investment.

[Gallar]

I think it's better to do it properly and normally, buying BTC with DCA is most comfortable to do manually, if it feels right, just buy and buy according to our financial capabilities.

Everything that looks sophisticated and is considered helpful has an expiration date and will be abandoned, especially if it is problematic and deviates from the desired function.

Investing must be relaxed.

Investing is about analysis and peace within yourself because you know what you are doing and you know you can reach what you aim for in the months / years to come.
At least that's how I view it.

Investing in bitcoin using the DCA technique can be said to be a very appropriate method for all groups. That's why currently many bitcoin investors are using this technique. Because of course it is not without evidence, but in fact the DCA technique does help bitcoin investors to be able to consistently accumulate money into bitcoin more regularly and consistently. Apart from that, doing DCA is actually better done manually. Because it is done manually it doesn't take much time. Because we don't need to look at the price of bitcoin, or analyze it any more, we just buy bitcoin and send it to our wallet (if the nominal value is more than 10 dollars).

Apart from that, it is true, investment is about analysis. However, this is not the case with bitcoin investment using the DCA technique. We do not need in-depth analysis to make purchases using this technique. We just need to have cold money and accumulate it into bitcoin every week or month. Additionally, here we are looking at long-term bitcoin investments, at least 5 to 10 years and above. So don't look at developments in a matter of months, or just 1 to 2 years. Because in my opinion this cannot be said to be a long-term investment.

[Ruttoshi]

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

Putting the time or period you created this thread, which was as far back as march this year, we need no soothsayer to tell that that time was a buy buy buy time, looking and seeing how much the price of bitcoin (and some other major cryptocurrencies) have grown since then till date.

The market can be very trickish most of the time, making winning seem very difficult, it takes good discipline and patience to win, do you research and invest in your conviction, (that is) in the coin or token you are well convinced about its future successand simply forget about it, act like you've lost that money and allow the market do it's thing, winning is sure at the end if indeed, you made the right choice of investment.

This is a bitcoin thread and only bitcoin has the long-term potential to multiply your investment and not shitcoins. Investing in shitcoin is gambling because they don't have solid foundation and you can get burnt anytime.

New investors shouldn't think or bother of doing any research on what to invest in because you will definitely make the wrong choice is it's not bitcoin. Bitcoin is decentralized and solving a lot of problems which has made the adoption rate to increase and that has also triggered the price to be on an uptrend movement. Have you seen any big invstor or government talking about shitcoins because they can never be a store of value and shitcoins are opposite of bitcoin.

Bitcoin is far different from shitcoins so let's not make it look as if they are the same because that can mislead newbies reading this thread. A newbie investor should take his time to invest and build his bitcoin investment overtime with regular weekly DCA buying with his discretionary income and hodli for long so that you can get peace of mind and make your future a happy one with your bitcoin investment. Only keep on buying bitcoin, because only bitcoin can give you good returns in future since it's still growing.

[Sim_card]

The market can be very trickish most of the time, making winning seem very difficult, it takes good discipline and patience to win, do you research and invest in your conviction, (that is) in the coin or token you are well convinced about its future success, and simply forget about it, act like you've lost that money and allow the market do it's thing, winning is sure at the end if indeed, you made the right choice of investment.

If you invest in shitcoin and forget about it, you might wake up one morning and your portfolio value will be in zero. How would you know a shitcoin that can last in the market and give you profit at the same time, it's impossible because you are on try your luck game.

A brand new investor after figuring out his discretionary income should focus only on bitcoin accumulation, so that he can build and grow his bitcoin investment overtime. Invest regularly every week for 4-10 years and above and don't get yourself distracted with shitcoin because you will run at big loss since most of them are pump and dump created to scam people.

I am a living testimony to how I lost my first investment in shitcoin, and since after that time, I don't advise anyone to follow that track. Bitcoin is promising and has a very bright future, that makes it the best because the rate of adoption is increasing and that will make the value increase overtime, also with its limited supply. People that don't listen and invest in shitcoin will end up regretting in future because they would be losers. Shitcoin depreciates in value overtime and they're duplicate to bitcoin. Invest in the original for long lasting profits.

[aylabadia05]

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Such a thing does not need to be assumed because most people can also see that at this time there are already many rich people with deep pockets who want to buy Bitcoin without thinking about the expensive costs. Because people who already understand Bitcoin will never stop buying Bitcoin and they will even continue to be enthusiastic in buying when they see the price of Bitcoin which has increased. But if you do not have deep enough pockets to be able to buy Bitcoin in large quantities, you can still buy it little by little because that can also be a good option for people who do not have that much money.

Previously, you had to differentiate between price and cost. Price is the value of the bitcoin itself being traded, while fees are the amount you have to spend to make transactions with bitcoin on the network, or also trading fees. Anyone can buy any amount of bitcoin, but you will definitely find exchanges setting a minimum amount. Anyone who knows about Bitcoin's long-term potential will likely invest in it, but no one can force you to invest if you don't believe in this potential.

Whether or not someone invests heavily in bitcoin also depends on how well they are able to weigh the risks. They may have sufficient budget power, but they should not invest in bitcoin using all their money without any consideration.

[Hardyrobust]

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Well, I will have to agree on this one cause the rate at which BTC is pumping right now, the cost of frontloading your investment portfolio into Bitcoin will be really expensive, but hey you never can tell, someone with a deep pocket can just do it (still a presumption thought)

Such a thing does not need to be assumed because most people can also see that at this time there are already many rich people with deep pockets who want to buy Bitcoin without thinking about the expensive costs. Because people who already understand Bitcoin will never stop buying Bitcoin and they will even continue to be enthusiastic in buying when they see the price of Bitcoin which has increased. But if you do not have deep enough pockets to be able to buy Bitcoin in large quantities, you can still buy it little by little because that can also be a good option for people who do not have that much money.

The money we should invest in bitcoin is our discretionary income and not the other way round the reason why some people are to buy now is not because of the current price of bitcoin but rather they undermine the worth of bitcoin and they are afraid to take the risk. Traders are mostly the one that is seeing the current price to be too expensive because they are looking for short-term profit

[Futurexxx]

However, just like you said that you stared few months ago and it is practically and humanly impossible to grasp everything now perhaps you should give it more time to.... so you shouldn't be in haste before you lead yourself into problem, this discussion or this board is not just an ordinary discussion board but rather a discussion where you don't have to misunderstood things or rush things, how long you joined the forum doesn't matter rather what matters is that at the end of the day you are able to make a difference.

I think it's better to do it properly and normally, buying BTC with DCA is most comfortable to do manually, if it feels right, just buy and buy according to our financial capabilities.

Everything that looks sophisticated and is considered helpful has an expiration date and will be abandoned, especially if it is problematic and deviates from the desired function.

Investing must be relaxed.

Yea you are very much correct bro, investing must be done in a relax manner because if for any reason you invest more than you can afford to do away without for a very long time or you invest aggressively, more than your capabilities, at some point you may struggle in not tempering with your investment, because when money meant for other things are being diverted for an investment purpose, their will be too much pressure on your emergency fund and your discretionary income, so if the emergency fund is not large enough to carry the burden, you will be forced to temper with your investment if the emergency situation at hand is too important to ignore.

[SuperBitMan]

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Such a thing does not need to be assumed because most people can also see that at this time there are already many rich people with deep pockets who want to buy Bitcoin without thinking about the expensive costs. Because people who already understand Bitcoin will never stop buying Bitcoin and they will even continue to be enthusiastic in buying when they see the price of Bitcoin which has increased. But if you do not have deep enough pockets to be able to buy Bitcoin in large quantities, you can still buy it little by little because that can also be a good option for people who do not have that much money.

Previously, you had to differentiate between price and cost. Price is the value of the bitcoin itself being traded, while fees are the amount you have to spend to make transactions with bitcoin on the network, or also trading fees. Anyone can buy any amount of bitcoin, but you will definitely find exchanges setting a minimum amount. Anyone who knows about Bitcoin's long-term potential will likely invest in it, but no one can force you to invest if you don't believe in this potential.

Whether or not someone invests heavily in bitcoin also depends on how well they are able to weigh the risks. They may have sufficient budget power, but they should not invest in bitcoin using all their money without any consideration.

When it comes to bitcoin investment there's risk however how high or low the risk is depend on the type of strategy they are using if you are into Bitcoin trading then there's a high risk but if you are into Long term Bitcoin investment there's low risk so if you are going into Bitcoin investment you should be able to understand the result of chosing any of the strategy.
We all know that one of the reasons for Bitcoin investment risk is it's volatility however it's volatility doesn't negatively affects your investment as a Long term hodler, the significant gap between its current price and its potential future value prevents Bitcoin's volatility from having a major impact over the long term holders so it simply means that going for long term holding is less risky than trading.

It is not advisable to use all your capital for Bitcoin investment the only capital that is advisable to use is your Discretionary income and the reason why it is advised to use your Discretionary income is so that you will be able to settle your bills with your income that way you won't be tempted to dip hands into your Bitcoin investment to settle bills, using only your Discretionary income reduces the temptation to dipping hands into your Bitcoin investment.

[Pi-network314159]

I don't think, those that have the skills of Bitcoin holding will use this month of December to accumulate Bitcoin, because the price of Bitcoin is still high for majority of investors to purchase Bitcoin than to wait for the bearish season investors are waiting to come before they can purchase and hold Bitcoin for another bullish season.

i don't really know  what you mean by this statement because i don't see enough reason why majority of people or investors will not buy bitcoin this December. and what do you mean by bitcoin price is too high? because as far as know bitcoin is still in its early stage and its will continue growing till it hit $1m and above. bitcoin has hit $108k as ATH, and fell down to $93k trying to gain back its momentum of the last ATH and create new ATH and you are here speculating that  guys will not buy bitcoin. i think you should speak for yourself and not for all.

Well, using the method of DCA to accumulate Bitcoin is very good to those investors that have other sources of income, because you need to have what will be sustaining you in the bearish season not to sell your Bitcoin than to wait for your target to happen in the bullish season before you can sell to take a double income.

actually it is good to have a good source of income to increase your investment strength, but what really matters is you discretion.

[JayJuanGee]

I think it's better to do it properly and normally, buying BTC with DCA is most comfortable to do manually, if it feels right, just buy and buy according to our financial capabilities.

Everything that looks sophisticated and is considered helpful has an expiration date and will be abandoned, especially if it is problematic and deviates from the desired function.

Investing must be relaxed.

Investing is about analysis and peace within yourself because you know what you are doing and you know you can reach what you aim for in the months / years to come.
At least that's how I view it.

Investing in bitcoin using the DCA technique can be said to be a very appropriate method for all groups. That's why currently many bitcoin investors are using this technique. Because of course it is not without evidence, but in fact the DCA technique does help bitcoin investors to be able to consistently accumulate money into bitcoin more regularly and consistently. Apart from that, doing DCA is actually better done manually. Because it is done manually it doesn't take much time. Because we don't need to look at the price of bitcoin, or analyze it any more, we just buy bitcoin and send it to our wallet (if the nominal value is more than 10 dollars).

I would suggest that it is quite problematic to be buying quantities of bitcoin in the area of $10 and sending those transactions to our private wallet.   Personally, I think that it is probably better to wait until the amount is in the ballpark of $100 to $500 before sending to our personal wallets, and surely the smaller the size of the transaction, the more potential that we will either be overly spending transaction fees in the future or even in the present.  We have a certain level of uncertainties in regards to future transaction fees, so we should attempt to prepare ourselves not to have too many UTXO sizes that are less than $100 in value.  Sure, one or two, here and there might be o.k., yet it is likely a better practices to have them higher than $100 and perhaps even higher than $500 in order to feel some level of comfort that we are not overly limiting ourselves.

There are more and more wallets that have coin control as a feature, and so it is likely that many of us have to either make sure that we are familiar with coin control or to learn about it, yet even if we don't know about or have coin control in our wallets, we still might not get stuck with high fees if we try to keep our UTXOs from being too small.

Ive been hearing about situations where someone buys a coin for a certain rate and not quite long after,  the said coin drops in value, or  someone sells his coin for a certain rate and then it appreciates just after.
What's your take on this? Given the period we're in is it buy time or sell time?

Putting the time or period you created this thread, which was as far back as march this year, we need no soothsayer to tell that that time was a buy buy buy time, looking and seeing how much the price of bitcoin (and some other major cryptocurrencies) have grown since then till date.

The market can be very trickish most of the time, making winning seem very difficult, it takes good discipline and patience to win, do you research and invest in your conviction, (that is) in the coin or token you are well convinced about its future successand simply forget about it, act like you've lost that money and allow the market do it's thing, winning is sure at the end if indeed, you made the right choice of investment.

This is a bitcoin thread and only bitcoin has the long-term potential to multiply your investment and not shitcoins. Investing in shitcoin is gambling because they don't have solid foundation and you can get burnt anytime.

New investors shouldn't think or bother of doing any research on what to invest in because you will definitely make the wrong choice is it's not bitcoin. Bitcoin is decentralized and solving a lot of problems which has made the adoption rate to increase and that has also triggered the price to be on an uptrend movement. Have you seen any big invstor or government talking about shitcoins because they can never be a store of value and shitcoins are opposite of bitcoin.

Bitcoin is far different from shitcoins so let's not make it look as if they are the same because that can mislead newbies reading this thread. A newbie investor should take his time to invest and build his bitcoin investment overtime with regular weekly DCA buying with his discretionary income and hodli for long so that you can get peace of mind and make your future a happy one with your bitcoin investment. Only keep on buying bitcoin, because only bitcoin can give you good returns in future since it's still growing.

If people are distracted into shitcoins and various other projects, they likely need to figure out how to discipline themselves in order to learn about bitcoin first, which might save them from their own inabilities to focus.   

So, normie newbies should try to focus themselves and learn about bitcoin first, and if they continue to be distracted into shitcoins and other projects, if they at least learn about bitcoin first, then they may well be in a better position to at least attemtp to understand the various shitcoins within the context of already having had learned about bitcoin.

Frequently, it can be difficult to stay focused, especially when we are first trying to learn and we also might have exposure to some bad sources of information that convolute shitcoins into any of their bitcoin discussion, whether they are doing it purposefully or accidentally, it can be quite problematic if we cannot figure out some ways to learn about bitcoin prior to fucking around with shitcoins (if we cannot help ourselves in regards to wanting to learn about and/or get involved in shitcoins). 

Of course, many of us who follow some of these various bitcoin investment threads know that even if we are spending time learning about bitcoin, we should not fail/refuse and/or wait to get started investing into bitcoin, so even while we are in our earliest of stages studying and learning about bitcoin, we likely will be better off to start investing into it.. perhaps small sizes of $100 or $10 per week or whatever might be reasonably appropriate in our budget - including one of the more important things is to learn about our budget and our discretionary income levels, moreso than spending a lot of time trying to figure out the many sides of bitcoin including that many folks who have been in bitcoin for more than 1 cycle or even several cycles, ONLY know so much about bitcoin, in terms of feeling comfortable investing into it or staying invested into it with their time, engergies and/or value.

[sotelorene]

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And if I may ask @JJG how much Bitcoin do you think or feel an investor should accumulate in less than a year. However, how people are able to accumulate enough Bitcoin shouldn't dismay you because there are people who are stinkingly rich and this kind of people accumulating enough Bitcoin in their portfolio wouldn't be a problem or big deal to them regardless of the market price and I want to believe some of them don't usually use the DCA but rather the lump sum and their 3 - 4 times lump sum can be some investor's 4-6 years of DCAing if not more.

When it comes to investing, there is no set rule as to how much bitcoin you should accumulate in a year. For investing in Bitcoin some people buy large amounts of Bitcoins while others buy small amounts of Bitcoins. So it is clear that those who regularly buy large amount of bitcoins will grow their investment portfolio very quickly in a short period of time and those who regularly buy small amount of bitcoins will grow their investment portfolio slowly and their investment portfolio will take longer to grow.

If we look at MicroStrategy's investment strategy, it can be seen that they are currently buying Bitcoin at a very fast pace. They have purchased a large amount of Bitcoins in the last two months which has resulted in their investment portfolio growing very rapidly in a short span of time.

No matter how big the Bitcoin investment is, we only need to keep in mind that holding Bitcoin in the future days, institutions or individuals who are there will mainly depend on holding Bitcoin for their investment. Some investors who are there mainly hold it for a short time. I think such a move is wrong, because if that person increases the duration of his investment, then I think his Bitcoin benefit will definitely increase several times.
Among them, the microstrategy company is playing one of the roles, because the duration of their investment will depend on them for the next few years. They have invested the most Bitcoin in these two months, November and December, but in these two months they have bought the DCA method and deep.

The holding may look small in your portfolio in the bearish season, but do everything possible in your capacity to hold the Bitcoin for long term before you will dream on how to release them for sale and it will help you to make a huge income from Bitcoin. Have you come to ask yourself why some big men and poor men wish to hold Bitcoin in the bearish season, because they know that is the best season to use Dollars to purchase some huge amount of Bitcoins that will allow them to boost their income when the bullish season appear in the market.  I don't think, those that have the skills of Bitcoin holding will use this month of December to accumulate Bitcoin, because the price of Bitcoin is still high for majority of investors to purchase Bitcoin than to wait for the bearish season investors are waiting to come before they can purchase and hold Bitcoin for another bullish season. Well, using the method of DCA to accumulate Bitcoin is very good to those investors that have other sources of income, because you need to have what will be sustaining you in the bearish season not to sell your Bitcoin than to wait for your target to happen in the bullish season before you can sell to take a double income.

I think the issue of Bitcoin price been high has been tabled and deliberated on so why saying the price of Bitcoin is high again and i have come to realize that what one speak of something is how that particular thing will appear to them, it is more like having a belief on something so having this mindset can or will make you not to invest in this period. The price of Bitcoin has depreciated to $92k plus and perhaps it is a nice time to buy and hold because the price we are going to see this year new will be massive and incredible. However, talking about selling in the bullish makes me feel that you are a short term investors because a long term investor won't be talking about selling their Bitcoin now because they knew the potential of Bitcoin though selling Bitcoin in the bullish won't be a bad idea if an investors started holding for like 6-7 years ago.

[JayJuanGee]

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And if I may ask @JJG how much Bitcoin do you think or feel an investor should accumulate in less than a year. However, how people are able to accumulate enough Bitcoin shouldn't dismay you because there are people who are stinkingly rich and this kind of people accumulating enough Bitcoin in their portfolio wouldn't be a problem or big deal to them regardless of the market price and I want to believe some of them don't usually use the DCA but rather the lump sum and their 3 - 4 times lump sum can be some investor's 4-6 years of DCAing if not more.

When it comes to investing, there is no set rule as to how much bitcoin you should accumulate in a year. For investing in Bitcoin some people buy large amounts of Bitcoins while others buy small amounts of Bitcoins. So it is clear that those who regularly buy large amount of bitcoins will grow their investment portfolio very quickly in a short period of time and those who regularly buy small amount of bitcoins will grow their investment portfolio slowly and their investment portfolio will take longer to grow.

If we look at MicroStrategy's investment strategy, it can be seen that they are currently buying Bitcoin at a very fast pace. They have purchased a large amount of Bitcoins in the last two months which has resulted in their investment portfolio growing very rapidly in a short span of time.

No matter how big the Bitcoin investment is, we only need to keep in mind that holding Bitcoin in the future days, institutions or individuals who are there will mainly depend on holding Bitcoin for their investment. Some investors who are there mainly hold it for a short time. I think such a move is wrong, because if that person increases the duration of his investment, then I think his Bitcoin benefit will definitely increase several times.
Among them, the microstrategy company is playing one of the roles, because the duration of their investment will depend on them for the next few years. They have invested the most Bitcoin in these two months, November and December, but in these two months they have bought the DCA method and deep.

The holding may look small in your portfolio in the bearish season, but do everything possible in your capacity to hold the Bitcoin for long term before you will dream on how to release them for sale and it will help you to make a huge income from Bitcoin. Have you come to ask yourself why some big men and poor men wish to hold Bitcoin in the bearish season, because they know that is the best season to use Dollars to purchase some huge amount of Bitcoins that will allow them to boost their income when the bullish season appear in the market.  I don't think, those that have the skills of Bitcoin holding will use this month of December to accumulate Bitcoin, because the price of Bitcoin is still high for majority of investors to purchase Bitcoin than to wait for the bearish season investors are waiting to come before they can purchase and hold Bitcoin for another bullish season. Well, using the method of DCA to accumulate Bitcoin is very good to those investors that have other sources of income, because you need to have what will be sustaining you in the bearish season not to sell your Bitcoin than to wait for your target to happen in the bullish season before you can sell to take a double income.

I think the issue of Bitcoin price been high has been tabled and deliberated on so why saying the price of Bitcoin is high again and i have come to realize that what one speak of something is how that particular thing will appear to them, it is more like having a belief on something so having this mindset can or will make you not to invest in this period. The price of Bitcoin has depreciated to $92k plus and perhaps it is a nice time to buy and hold because the price we are going to see this year new will be massive and incredible. However, talking about selling in the bullish makes me feel that you are a short term investors because a long term investor won't be talking about selling their Bitcoin now because they knew the potential of Bitcoin though selling Bitcoin in the bullish won't be a bad idea if an investors started holding for like 6-7 years ago.

Whether a bitcoin holder is in a position to sell after being in bitcoin for 6-7 years is not merely a function of how long he has been in bitcoin, yet also how many BTC he had accumulated.

If you are thinking about selling BTC merely because it is in good profits and you have been in for 6-7 years, then you still seem to be trading rather than investing.

We need to know details in order to figure out whether such person might have had transitioned from accumulation stage to maintenance to liquidation.

I have a hard time imagining a regular investor (even one who had been investing for 7-ish years) getting to a point of being served by selling his bitcoin, unless he had been able to significantly front load his investment.  Let's go with an example of the person who has been investing around 10% of his salary into bitcoin, and so he had been earning $30k to $50k in the past 7 years and investing around $100 per week, and so after 7 years he had invested $36,600 and he had accumulated 2.71 BTC.

If we look at the 200-WMA value of his 2.71 BTC as compared with the spot price, we have $116k versus $250k, which would ONLY be around 2-5x his annual income, which seems way too premature to be considering the quantity of BTC to have reached a status of enough or more than enough...  We can come to differing assessments about this and truly we could consider scenarios in which a person of similar means would have had been able to accumulate 2-10x more bitcoin within the same timeline, which would put him in a much better position to be able to assess that he has enough BTC or more than enough BTC in order to start to feel at liberty to start selling some of his BTC.  Imagine a scenario in which the same person was able to front load most of his investment, which means that maybe he could have had bought most of his BTC stash in 2018 while the BTC price was going down, and so maybe he could have had achieved a $36,600 investment into BTC with an average BTC price of around $6k - which surely would have had put him at right around 6 BTC, and if he had been able to figure out ways to garner up more funds (such as if he had already been an experienced investor and he could reallocate from other investments into bitcoin), then surely he might have been able to accumulate 20 or more BTC, which would surely put him at a better status, and likely even able to sustain an income off of his bitcoin stash that would match his current level of income, if that might be what he might be wanting to achieve.

Sure the amount of time in bitcoin certainly helps to figure out if a person had been able to put himself in a position of overaccumulation of BTC, yet we likely need to know more beyond just the fact that the guy had spent a longer time accumulating BTC in order to know if he might have been able to put himself into a position of being able to start to sell some of his BTC either based on price and/or based on time.