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May 29, 2025, 08:48:20 PM
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Interestingly, the fate of two teams may be altered for years by a match that lacks any open play beauty. What happened in Bilbao is a lesson for any "big" team still believing that ball domination and aesthetics are sufficient. United was shown for what they had been all year: all the gear and no idea. Their underperformance relative to their xG throughout season tells everything

Postecoglou tore up his own playbook. Spurs defend deep, clear everything, drag down the time, and win ugly. The so-called "Ange-Ball" went out the window for one night. They ended 17th in England, lost 21 league games, and now they are Champions League bound with $100 million to play with. If this cannot convince people that cup football is a different beast, nothing can

Regarding Kane, one wonders if this "curse lifted" event marks the beginning of a new Spurs era. Or maybe its just a blip. Unless they discover ways to close the gap between European and domestic suffering, next season they may be in another relegation battle. United has to rebuild entirely, and nobody job should be safe. Finals such as this rewrite scripts, sometimes for years. Just hope Spurs' fans will find it satisfying before reality returns
If it was UCL finals then yeah that might be the case, but it's Europa and because of that we are going to see this not change much. Being in UCL next season is good, hell it makes premier league send a total of 6 teams, no league has sent that much before as far as I know, so it's a lot.

But, if Spurs sucks and gets like 5 points in 8 games, then what was the point for all of this anyways? That means they may end up with bad results at league again, and may do terrible at UCL, and not like they could drop down to Europa from UCL, that's done and not happens anymore. So all in all, we are talking about a lot of potential for them to be terrible again and they didn't make that much money neither, so I have no trust in them to do better.

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May 29, 2025, 09:38:14 PM
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It is very clear, Manchester United's performance is very bad in the Premier League, their last hope is only in the European League but they failed again. All lines must be evaluated by management to bring better changes for them. A team with a big name in the Premier League but in the last few seasons they seem very weak, easily penetrated by their opponents.

A more epic strategy must be implemented by Amorim next season because next season Manchester United will not have a busy schedule so their focus is only on the Premier League.
With the decision that Ruben Amorim is staying, Manchester United has made an important decidion. Sir Jim Ratcliffe still believes in the Portuguese ability to rebuild the team. The next phase is to evaluate the players to determine who is staying or leaving. Then, it will be time to begin to identify and approach new players. The club management should give the coach all the support he needs to avoid complaints. He wouldn't have any excuse for failing if he had most of the players he requested.

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May 29, 2025, 09:45:52 PM
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Manchester united has been dealing with a lot of problems this season, judging from their performance in the EPL it was easy to predict that they would flop against Tottenham. They managed to win big teams from other leagues multiple times but when faced with teams from their league they always had a high chance of messing up lol. like you said, they need to work on getting a good striker and also fix their weak defense
What's the challenges of the Red Devils? I hope they come back stronger next season because it's not going to be an easy one. Manchester United flopping performance this season was expected because they failed terribly to mush up and push for elite outcome. The problem of Manchester United originates from the team's board, they failed in all circle to make things rise up for them, they're stick to more problems with improper management. The Glazer family owned Manchester United and are eligible to do anything they want with the club and this mostly ruined the club to shattered pieces. The club already started making crucial signings for their players next season.

 
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May 29, 2025, 09:51:21 PM
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With the decision that Ruben Amorim is staying, Manchester United has made an important decidion. Sir Jim Ratcliffe still believes in the Portuguese ability to rebuild the team. The next phase is to evaluate the players to determine who is staying or leaving. Then, it will be time to begin to identify and approach new players. The club management should give the coach all the support he needs to avoid complaints. He wouldn't have any excuse for failing if he had most of the players he requested.
Is the Portuguese coach really the one for Manchester United? Ruben Amorim is obviously a good coach going by what he did with Sporting Lisbon but I doubt if he is the best option for Manchester United.
Manchester United need a coach that can actually manage players but with the high handedness Ruben Amorim has I doubt if he can effectively rebuild Manchester United.
Manchester United need a coach like Carlo ancelotti one that can actually bring out the best in players even the once with the worst attitude.
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May 29, 2025, 10:05:03 PM
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Is the Portuguese coach really the one for Manchester United? Ruben Amorim is obviously a good coach going by what he did with Sporting Lisbon but I doubt if he is the best option for Manchester United.
Manchester United need a coach that can actually manage players but with the high handedness Ruben Amorim has I doubt if he can effectively rebuild Manchester United.
Manchester United need a coach like Carlo ancelotti one that can actually bring out the best in players even the once with the worst attitude.
Well he might be a good up to a certain standards because every team has levels. Although he needs time but the question is, is Amorim in the level of Manchester United? Does he have the pedigree to handle such a team? Especially in this period of rebuilding the club after a decade of downhill slide. He might be good at sporting because that might be his level but can he be for Manchester United. Rebuilding a club requires lots of experience from the manager with little or no influence from the the board to do his job and I don't think Amorim has that pedigree that can make the not to influence most of his decisions.

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May 30, 2025, 02:49:20 AM
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Is the Portuguese coach really the one for Manchester United? Ruben Amorim is obviously a good coach going by what he did with Sporting Lisbon but I doubt if he is the best option for Manchester United.
Manchester United need a coach that can actually manage players but with the high handedness Ruben Amorim has I doubt if he can effectively rebuild Manchester United.
Manchester United need a coach like Carlo ancelotti one that can actually bring out the best in players even the once with the worst attitude.
Well he might be a good up to a certain standards because every team has levels. Although he needs time but the question is, is Amorim in the level of Manchester United? Does he have the pedigree to handle such a team? Especially in this period of rebuilding the club after a decade of downhill slide. He might be good at sporting because that might be his level but can he be for Manchester United. Rebuilding a club requires lots of experience from the manager with little or no influence from the the board to do his job and I don't think Amorim has that pedigree that can make the not to influence most of his decisions.

This discussion is raising some interest because now Amorim is in question because he didn't win the Europa League. What would have happened to the Tottenham coach if he didn't win the Europa League and would everybody talk differently about Amorim if he won that single game, the final?

This is typical trash talk. I am not accusing you of having a trash talk, but this is good proof for how teams and coaches are remembers. If a team in a final plays amazing and are superior and they hit the post after 90 minutes and the other team has a lucky punch goal with the counter attack, nobody will talk about how the team that was superior actually played.

The Tottenham coach did a bad job and the only competition that should be considered to judge someone is the Premier League. It is the honest competition that tells you how consistently a team was able to perform in their main business.

To be fair, Amorim took over from ten Hag and the team was in disastrous condition.
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May 30, 2025, 04:17:04 AM
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Even the goal that was created for Tottenham was a process that should not have happened, but because of the lack of alertness from the lower line and the Manchester United goalkeeper, the goal was successfully achieved by Brennan Johnson.
Overall the game of both teams in the final match was on the same level. Even Manchester United really dominated the match. I even thought United would lift the UEL trophy and become a UCL contestant next season. But in the end they lost by 1 shot on target from Tottenham. I think United's problem this season is their front line who can't convert chances into goals and their defense especially their goalkeeper who is really bad. I would be surprised if United don't look for another goalkeeper this season. As a fan I think my patience has run out seeing Onana's performance.

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May 30, 2025, 09:02:48 AM
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Tottenham already knows that Manchester United's front line players this season cannot maximize every opportunity that exists so they try not to give space to Manchester United's attackers during the match. And when there is an opportunity, Manchester United players cannot finish so well so for next season Manchester United must look for players who are able to finish well when there is an opportunity that can be used as a goal. So Tottenham actually already has a tactic in making the defense better because they are already very familiar with their opponents in the final.
Tottenham did not implement a strategy of attacking in the match and they waited more and forgive the best moments to carry out attacks so that when Manchester United players were careless they managed to take advantage of these opportunities. The created goal began with a chaos under the crossbar and Manchester United players failed to throw the ball before touching Brennan Johnson's feet. Next season there is no other way but to bring a good striker because relying on strikers like now will be difficult for Manchester United to compete because we can see how they lose when facing a pre-season tour to Asia by dealing with a weak team.

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Never trust the bookmakers' odds completely, it's always a question of luck.

The truth is that it was a very close game, I wouldn't say it was luck because Spurs played very well, they stopped the game of a MU that believed and was sure that they were going to win, so Spurs won for me thanks to their own effort, something happened to MU that I don't like to see happen and that is overconfidence, believing themselves to be the best, something similar to what happened to Barcelona, ​​they believed they were the best and that they were going to win the UCL, and Inter knocked them out, that's why in these things you shouldn't be so confident.

When I was active in playing football, one of the motivational speeches my coach used to tell me and my fellow teammates was for us to see ourselves as the best and believe we would beat our opponent so that it would kill the spirit of being afraid anytime we see our opponent. I don't see anything wrong in Manchester United believing they would beat Tottenham Hotspur in the UEFA Europa League final because it is a boost for them to perform well against Tottenham Hotspur.

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With the decision that Ruben Amorim is staying, Manchester United has made an important decidion. Sir Jim Ratcliffe still believes in the Portuguese ability to rebuild the team. The next phase is to evaluate the players to determine who is staying or leaving. Then, it will be time to begin to identify and approach new players. The club management should give the coach all the support he needs to avoid complaints. He wouldn't have any excuse for failing if he had most of the players he requested.
Is the Portuguese coach really the one for Manchester United? Ruben Amorim is obviously a good coach going by what he did with Sporting Lisbon but I doubt if he is the best option for Manchester United.
Manchester United need a coach that can actually manage players but with the high handedness Ruben Amorim has I doubt if he can effectively rebuild Manchester United.
Manchester United need a coach like Carlo ancelotti one that can actually bring out the best in players even the once with the worst attitude.
Were you expecting a miracle from a coach that inherited a bad team. Amorim Reuben is still a good coach and I believe he is also the right person to lead Manchester United to a better position in premier league. Amorim has already marked alot of players in his team for sell,players that have underperform will definitely leave the club for new players to fill it. Let's give Amorim until the end of next season to build his own team, enough time will determine if he has the capacity to manage Manchester United effectively.


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Even the goal that was created for Tottenham was a process that should not have happened, but because of the lack of alertness from the lower line and the Manchester United goalkeeper, the goal was successfully achieved by Brennan Johnson.
Overall the game of both teams in the final match was on the same level. Even Manchester United really dominated the match. I even thought United would lift the UEL trophy and become a UCL contestant next season. But in the end they lost by 1 shot on target from Tottenham. I think United's problem this season is their front line who can't convert chances into goals and their defense especially their goalkeeper who is really bad. I would be surprised if United don't look for another goalkeeper this season. As a fan I think my patience has run out seeing Onana's performance.

If you don't score goals, dominating the match means nothing. The opposing team comes, shoots 3 shots and if your defenders or goalkeeper can't do anything, you say goodbye to the cup.
Athe quality of the team wasn't very high, but losing the cup against a team that could only shoot 3 shots was quite dramatic for them. In this team, not only the goalkeeper or the defenders, but all the players are to blame and fail.
They don't perform as well as they should, and as a result they have a terrible year.

Actually Onana was not a bad name as a goalkeeper but he has failed this season for sure. I wish they had given Altay Bayındır more playing time

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If you don't score goals, dominating the match means nothing. The opposing team comes, shoots 3 shots and if your defenders or goalkeeper can't do anything, you say goodbye to the cup.
Athe quality of the team wasn't very high, but losing the cup against a team that could only shoot 3 shots was quite dramatic for them. In this team, not only the goalkeeper or the defenders, but all the players are to blame and fail.
They don't perform as well as they should, and as a result they have a terrible year.

Actually Onana was not a bad name as a goalkeeper but he has failed this season for sure. I wish they had given Altay Bayındır more playing time
Too many big names with good performance in past completely fail here at Old Trafford which make things at worst level for them Onana is not alone guilty in this case many other players are also failed to give their best just because of this now media reports clearly indicating management is thinking to have overhaul in squad. Having faith in Ruben Amorim good for them while now bringing players which will give good performance for him is another good step lost in final with good performance surely hurt badly to their moral which is now needed to be fixed problems if they are looking for better results in the future.

They lost first game in Europa League 2025 which was final and this is terrible because they were already at their lowest level in Premier League standing next two months are going to be interesting because now all eyes on them how they will improve their performance.

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They lost first game in Europa League 2025 which was final and this is terrible because they were already at their lowest level in Premier League standing next two months are going to be interesting because now all eyes on them how they will improve their performance.

Amorim did not make any effort in the Premier League matches to help Manchester United move up the points table. However, Manchester United's performance on the Europa League platform was really good. I would even say that Manchester United played much better than Tottenham in the final match. But the team failed to break down Tottenham's defense. Tottenham managed to score one goal despite not attacking much.

Manchester United should definitely strengthen their squad. But we do not know yet what steps Manchester United will take to strengthen the squad. However, it is very necessary to add experienced strikers and defenders to the squad.

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When I saw that it was Tottenham United will play with in the finals, I had this doubt in me that United has a 50-50 chance of winning because Tottenham is an English club with good records on winning United when they clashed. United major problem currently is getting a good and sharp striker who can always score whenever there's a good chance of scoring. I hope that the management can solve this problem next season.
Hopefully by next season, the right strikers will be signed by the management of Manchester United, and Manchester United will be looking forward to having a better season than last season they performed below expectations.

I don't know whether this is the first time Manchester United has come below the table at the 15th spot in the Premier League table. Nobody imagined it to be that way this season. Manchester United will be ashamed of themselves for not winning a trophy, and also not playing in any other league this season apart from the Premier League

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Even though Spurs won, I do not see either team to be better next season. Better in the sense that they may not finish 15th, sure it's easier to be better than that, but being 9th or 12th whatever isn't really a great improvement, that still sucks considering how much money they are making per year, and how much they are spending. If you look at the salary of premier league teams, Manchester United is literally the second biggest club on payroll, they are paying the most payroll on the entire league except City.

Tottenham is also 7th, so not like they should be this low neither, but United is worse. If they can get rid of Casemiro somehow, then sell Bruno, that would be nearly 35-40 million saved, they could get at least 3-4 good players for 10 a year with that. Rest is a bit about them getting rid of players they do not want on the team, like Antony and Rashford and Sancho etc etc.

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May 30, 2025, 09:11:22 PM
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Even though Spurs won, I do not see either team to be better next season. Better in the sense that they may not finish 15th, sure it's easier to be better than that, but being 9th or 12th whatever isn't really a great improvement, that still sucks considering how much money they are making per year, and how much they are spending. If you look at the salary of premier league teams, Manchester United is literally the second biggest club on payroll, they are paying the most payroll on the entire league except City.

Tottenham is also 7th, so not like they should be this low neither, but United is worse. If they can get rid of Casemiro somehow, then sell Bruno, that would be nearly 35-40 million saved, they could get at least 3-4 good players for 10 a year with that. Rest is a bit about them getting rid of players they do not want on the team, like Antony and Rashford and Sancho etc etc.

I think if Tottenham gets some few players and injuries avoid them they will be really good. I think in next season we can expect from Spurs to be much better then this season for sure. For Man Utd i think they will be bad aswell next season. Even with Amorim they cannot do a miracle and go for top 5 spots

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May 31, 2025, 04:08:44 AM
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If you don't score goals, dominating the match means nothing. The opposing team comes, shoots 3 shots and if your defenders or goalkeeper can't do anything, you say goodbye to the cup.
Athe quality of the team wasn't very high, but losing the cup against a team that could only shoot 3 shots was quite dramatic for them. In this team, not only the goalkeeper or the defenders, but all the players are to blame and fail.
They don't perform as well as they should, and as a result they have a terrible year.

Actually Onana was not a bad name as a goalkeeper but he has failed this season for sure. I wish they had given Altay Bayındır more playing time
Dominating the game doesn't necessarily win it and this often happens, even Manchester United always loses in the Premier League even though the match statistics are far superior to them. Especially in the European league finals, Manchester United players played well and didn't make many mistakes, but the most prominent thing is the front line because they were unable to create chances to score goals. Onana also did not make many mistakes in the Europa League final but he is not worthy of being the main goalkeeper and vice versa with Altay Bayındır because his ability to be under the crossbar is still quite doubtful.

Next season there is a lot of work to be done by Amorim and may need to adjust some players because hoping to compete with the quality of players they currently have, it is impossible for Manchester United to get success.

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May 31, 2025, 06:14:32 AM
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Tottenham did not implement a strategy of attacking in the match and they waited more and forgive the best moments to carry out attacks so that when Manchester United players were careless they managed to take advantage of these opportunities. The created goal began with a chaos under the crossbar and Manchester United players failed to throw the ball before touching Brennan Johnson's feet. Next season there is no other way but to bring a good striker because relying on strikers like now will be difficult for Manchester United to compete because we can see how they lose when facing a pre-season tour to Asia by dealing with a weak team.


Which we saw how great that was, because United wasn't good enough to score anyways, and Bruno was used badly, Ugarte got in too late, Garnacho got in too late. Basically, United just ruined themselves when Spurs let them be. When you do that, it's clear that we are not going to get anything changing, because Spurs knew that both of the teams were bad, they were themselves bad, but if they attacked, then they would show the cracks in the team, instead they got lucky and scored first, so they just parked the bus all game long and let United ruin their own morale.

The more United missed, the less hope they had to score, so eventually United grew tired and bored and upset that none of them went it. There were few chances, where United just got unlucky, but yeah Spurs looked better all game long.

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May 31, 2025, 07:50:37 AM
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The performance of both teams is not much different this season and maybe Tottenham are much luckier because I see both teams performing not so convincingly when competing in the Premier League and the Europa League, even though in the end the two teams met as opponents in the final. Manchester United's weakness in the final match was because a number of forwards were unable to find opportunities to score goals and that was caused by Tottenham's defense which appeared much more solid.
Tottenham already knows that Manchester United's front line players this season cannot maximize every opportunity that exists so they try not to give space to Manchester United's attackers during the match. And when there is an opportunity, Manchester United players cannot finish so well so for next season Manchester United must look for players who are able to finish well when there is an opportunity that can be used as a goal. So Tottenham actually already has a tactic in making the defense better because they are already very familiar with their opponents in the final.
Manchester United's front line against Tottenham Hotspur in the UEFA Europa League final was weak, and that was the reason why Tottenham Hotspur were able to defend their 1-goal lead perfectly well against Manchester United. The only good chance that I think Manchester United had against Tottenham Hotspur to score back was the Rasmus Højlund header, which a Tottenham Hotspur defender stopped the ball from passing the goal line. Erik ten Hag had the opportunity to sign either Harry Kane or Victor Osimhen, but he chose to go for Rasmus Hojlund, so Ruben Amorim should be careful when he's signing a striker for Manchester United so that he won't make the same mistake that Erik ten Hag made at Manchester United, which put Manchester United in a difficult situation this season.

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May 31, 2025, 09:52:00 AM
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Which we saw how great that was, because United wasn't good enough to score anyways, and Bruno was used badly, Ugarte got in too late, Garnacho got in too late. Basically, United just ruined themselves when Spurs let them be. When you do that, it's clear that we are not going to get anything changing, because Spurs knew that both of the teams were bad, they were themselves bad, but if they attacked, then they would show the cracks in the team, instead they got lucky and scored first, so they just parked the bus all game long and let United ruin their own morale.

The more United missed, the less hope they had to score, so eventually United grew tired and bored and upset that none of them went it. There were few chances, where United just got unlucky, but yeah Spurs looked better all game long.
There are quite a few reasons why Manchester United lost to Tottenham, which I think all boil down to Ruben Amorim mistakes in setting his starting XI, one of which was benching Garnacho. Overall, sometimes it's hard for me to understand why Ruben Amorim is so confident in a three at the back formation, a strategy that has clearly proven ineffective in many matches.
If Tottenham had played more aggressively, they could have even won the match by a larger margin, as there were many gaps to exploit in the Manchester United squad. The majority of Manchester United players this season have failed to find their best form, so I think it makes sense why they failed to capitalize on goal scoring opportunities despite dominating possession.

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