Bitcoin is the most profitable investment year to date.

[South Park]

I don't think this is open for argument because the data is out there for everyone to see. The case of someone purchasing pizza with 10,000BTC is a clear indication of how far bitcoin have grown in less than 20 year of its creation. I think bitcoin should be the biggest creation of wealth we have known in human history. Those who trust bitcoin, invested early enough and held till date have no business with poverty today. The opportunity is still there for those of us that are opportune to learn about bitcoin now and in some years in the future we will be happy for the actions we take today.

I mean if we are going for very detailed technical parts, there could be some obscure low level low cap coin that did better maybe, or there could be even companies that were very tiny, but their research gave some results and now they are wealthy. I am not saying there are plenty of them, it must be very small, but this is "growth" we are talking about and not the market cap, meaning if a company started with 100 dollars and reached 100k marketcap, then they are much bigger obviously.

This is why these ranks are only to limited some of the big ones and not in general. Still, this is a great achievement for bitcoin, but we should remember it is not a quick way to make money, just because 2024 was great ,we should not forget 2022, so holding is always very important.

At least when it comes to this market I doubt there is a single coin out there that was at any point more successful than bitcoin, since bitcoin went from being worth zero to its current market cap, and even if it is true that number is exaggerated, as exchanges are just multiplying the current price and the number of coins ever mined, the same is true for the rest of the coins on the market, and since there is no coin that has surpassed the market cap of bitcoin, then it is relatively safe to say that there has never been any altcoin that did better than bitcoin.

[Solokan]

Yes, by looking at this information, of course we can see that Bitcoin has now shown its greatness and of course I am personally amazed by the achievements that BTC has achieved at this time. As a small BTC investor, I personally hope that at the end of this year the BTC price will rise quickly and in 2025 I hope the BTC price will be more than $80k.

this is a good thread op and now it is clear from the picture you posted that bitcoin is at the top of the rankings and this is very in line with current reality because up to now btc has never disappointed its holders of course for holders who are patient and have a lot knowledge.

but I personally can't convince someone who still has doubts about bitcoin because of course everyone has different thoughts so my can only explain as best my can without any element of coercion. but it seems that now people are starting to realize that BTC has a bright future and I am sure that in the future BTC prices will increase even more. Yes, of course BTC is very impressive and what is certain is that all investors now hope to see BTC prices even higher.

[Adams0001]

Yes, by looking at this information, of course we can see that Bitcoin has now shown its greatness and of course I am personally amazed by the achievements that BTC has achieved at this time. As a small BTC investor, I personally hope that at the end of this year the BTC price will rise quickly and in 2025 I hope the BTC price will be more than $80k.

this is a good thread op and now it is clear from the picture you posted that bitcoin is at the top of the rankings and this is very in line with current reality because up to now btc has never disappointed its holders of course for holders who are patient and have a lot knowledge.

but I personally can't convince someone who still has doubts about bitcoin because of course everyone has different thoughts so my can only explain as best my can without any element of coercion. but it seems that now people are starting to realize that BTC has a bright future and I am sure that in the future BTC prices will increase even more. Yes, of course BTC is very impressive and what is certain is that all investors now hope to see BTC prices even higher.

Bitcoin will remain at the top because I am confident that tge coin or any gold will surpass BTC this time he will continue to rise slowly until he reaches $100k. Now that bitcoin is at the top, it is certain that it is the best, and those who are skeptical of bitcoin will begin to believe that it is a legitimate investment rather than a hoax. All bitcoin investors are just waiting for bitcoin to continue increasing, and some are waiting for it to drop and invest, because some are thinking if they invest now, the price will probably decrease and they will lose, but I think anyone who is waiting for the btc price to drop before investing is not ready to invest, they can not take risk, and bitcoin don't have periods to invest on it anytime is a good time for it, because if you think you will wait for it to drop,  and he didn't decrease to your planned, and continue increasing meaning that you are just wasting your time.

I hope Bitcoin remains at the top since it is the best coin for minimizing risk while not losing too much money. Bitcoin can reach $80k before next year since it is unpredictable and can surprise anyone with a large gain, and I am confident anyone who has bitcoin in their wallet will be pleased if the currency climbed much before next year.

[Hamza2424]

If there are people we want to convince to invest but who are still doubtful, we can point them to this thread. They can ask questions, and we’re ready to share facts with them.

We should not adopt forceful or convincing approach to help clear someone's doubt because we might be able to clear their doubts but when market will take unexpected turn then the person whom you convinced will come after you and blame you for the convincing. It's better to show them the stats and the rest of either they should invest or not left on them.

If they chose or not, that's their own decision so we can't do anything about it. Your idea BTW is good to show newbies with this data now to help them realize the true potential of BTC but it's not confirmed that BTC will follow the same year pattern of 2024 in 2025 too.

[Catenaccio]

We should not adopt forceful or convincing approach to help clear someone's doubt because we might be able to clear their doubts but when market will take unexpected turn then the person whom you convinced will come after you and blame you for the convincing. It's better to show them the stats and the rest of either they should invest or not left on them.

If they chose or not, that's their own decision so we can't do anything about it. Your idea BTW is good to show newbies with this data now to help them realize the true potential of BTC but it's not confirmed that BTC will follow the same year pattern of 2024 in 2025 too.

People have two main types: easily changeable and hardly changeable or unchangeable.

If you consider you are a Bitcoiner and want to become a Bitcoin ambassador, you can go out, meet people and give them your educational speeches on Bitcoin, but remember you won't be able to convince all of them and turn all of them to Bitcoiners.

Let them be and if they refuse to join this market, it's their decision that will make them possibly regret in future. Just possibly because some people will never regret because they did not invest money in Bitcoin.

Since 2009, many people missed many opportunities with Bitcoin. There is no if for coming back to the past and fix your mistake.
https://whatifbitcoin.org/

[Reatim]

Let them be and if they refuse to join this market, it's their decision that will make them possibly regret in future. Just possibly because some people will never regret because they did not invest money in Bitcoin.

We should accept that we will never be able to convince everyone and that is okay. What is not okay to me is if someone refuses to use or buy bitcoin because of misinformation. If someone raises genuinely valid concerns then we can consider it and have a mature conversation.

But some are simply too close minded and they do not want to hear anyone else. They have already believed in something and would refuse to be corrected. This is what really annoys me.

Since 2009, many people missed many opportunities with Bitcoin. There is no if for coming back to the past and fix your mistake.
https://whatifbitcoin.org/

Best thing we can do is to do the right thing now. I also missed bitcoin when it was still cheap but the moment I could afford to buy bitcoin, I immediately did and never looked back since.

[knowngunman]

If there are people we want to convince to invest but who are still doubtful, we can point them to this thread. They can ask questions, and we’re ready to share facts with them.

Is there even need to convince anyone? Absolutely No. Bitcoin has proven itself to be a profitable investment long before now even to the blind. I don't really think people doubt bitcoin as to whether it's profitable investment or not but they're skeptical about its reliability. Many of them see the chart and know how profitable it has been but they question how long it will take to collapse. To this end, we only need to enlighten them about risk management and not necessarily prove to them how profitable it is.

But some are simply too close minded and they do not want to hear anyone else. They have already believed in something and would refuse to be corrected. This is what really annoys me.

Some people are just like that, they believe in first information they receive whether it is a fabrication or a fact they don't care. To be able to convince such people depends on how you hold a conversation with them. If you emphasize on arguments, they will consider you as opposition and will never listen. You have to make them believe they're also right in some perspective and they follow up with a proven fact that shows their own point is outdated or irrelevant. It is also good to let go if they persist.

[OcTradism]

Is there even need to convince anyone? Absolutely No. Bitcoin has proven itself to be a profitable investment long before now even to the blind. I don't really think people doubt bitcoin as to whether it's profitable investment or not but they're skeptical about its reliability. Many of them see the chart and know how profitable it has been but they question how long it will take to collapse. To this end, we only need to enlighten them about risk management and not necessarily prove to them how profitable it is.

There is consideration on risk and profit for any person who are assessing Bitcoin as their investment choice.

It's hard to be blind and refuse a clear fact that Bitcoin has very good ROI since 2009. Bitcoin ROI versus Traditional assets ROI can help them to see better ROI of Bitcoin.

However people have to consider other things, risk and if they see risk is big enough that they can not afford to invest money in Bitcoin with risk of losing it, they will not add Bitcoin to their investment portfolios. Some will accept risk, see risk is smaller than profit-gained chance but others see differently.

[AprilioMP]

Graphics that show how Bitcoin Return in 2024 can help convince people who are pessimistic about Bitcoin performance in making it an investment asset.
Although gold the percentage in the graph is only 26.5% that are in sixth, making it an investment asset coincides with Bitcoin is the best thing as a reserve fund.
This is done to avoid all funds from being included in one basket. If divided into two types of assets, then when you need something can be taken from gold assets.

[DeathAngel]

The gains since the first block are huge, nobody could have foreseen what bitcoin would become. I do think that we will see diminishing returns now though but that shouldn’t stop you buying bitcoin. It is still one of the best investments out there.

[MusaMohamed]

The gains since the first block are huge, nobody could have foreseen what bitcoin would become.

People have a lot of time and many years to take opportunities and be rich with Bitcoin investment. If they did, congratulate them for good profit. If they did not, they only can blame on their over hesitation and bad decision. Chances are free to grab and they lacked of bravery to take these opportunities. It's never late to join Bitcoin market, and if now they're regretful on their bad decisions in the past, they can take action, correct past mistakes by investing in Bitcoin in this year and coming years as well.

I do think that we will see diminishing returns now though but that shouldn’t stop you buying bitcoin. It is still one of the best investments out there.

DCA from now if they deeply regret about past missed opportunities.
https://dcabtc.com/

[BlackHatCoiner]

Bitcoin is not only one of the most profitable investments. It's the most profitable given the risk. It has the lowest risk:reward ratio, and that's why we all keep bragging on how neatly it serves as a store-of-value. People should put their money on what gives the highest return, with the lowest risk. There's no better option than assets with no counterparty risk, like Bitcoin.

[Webetcoins]

Let them be and if they refuse to join this market, it's their decision that will make them possibly regret in future. Just possibly because some people will never regret because they did not invest money in Bitcoin.

We should accept that we will never be able to convince everyone and that is okay. What is not okay to me is if someone refuses to use or buy bitcoin because of misinformation. If someone raises genuinely valid concerns then we can consider it and have a mature conversation.

But some are simply too close minded and they do not want to hear anyone else. They have already believed in something and would refuse to be corrected. This is what really annoys me.

That is what I faced many times as well, specially from people in the USA, and this is why I do not like it when politicians talk about bitcoin, it scares off new people. Trump likes it and shared about it, and some people who are trump supporters also shared about it, and because of that some leftists are not interested in bitcoin and think it's a right wing thing.

In reality, that is not the case and I believe we are not going to see any politician being helpful, because while their supporters will be interested, opponents will not be and that is why it sucks. In any case, when new people wants to join, it's easy to help them, when they decide to stay away, I can't be bothered to convince them, it's not my job to educate them.

[Z-tight]

Trump likes it and shared about it, and some people who are trump supporters also shared about it, and because of that some leftists are not interested in bitcoin and think it's a right wing thing.

Who can think such bullshit, if anyone is not interested in BTC for this reason, then it is safe to say that they were never going to be interested in it and they are only looking for an excuse to back up their ideas. BTC is not for anyone, but everyone, and it will only take a few seconds for anyone to find out about that.

There are a lot of info about BTC on the internet and people who are truly interested would seek out such materials and understand BTC better, rather than make it a political thing.

[Slow death]

Agree, but I don't think GOLD will hold up that much longer.

I'm not a fan of gold, but from what I've observed, most people really like gold. Just talk about a necklace, watch or some other gold thing that people go crazy wanting to have, and the rich love to have gold bars in their vaults. As if they were preparing for some kind of global economic crisis. So I see that gold will remain attractive for many years to come, and as the years go by, gold will become more valuable. Just like bitcoin, as the next few years go by, bitcoin will become more valuable, which is why buying bitcoin and gold now and hodling them for many years is a good idea.

[sunsilk]

I'm not a fan of gold, but from what I've observed, most people really like gold. Just talk about a necklace, watch or some other gold thing that people go crazy wanting to have, and the rich love to have gold bars in their vaults.

The significance of it being there since ancient times makes it valuable and that has been passed on to ages up to this present time. Also, that's common knowledge about gold, every country has got 'gold reserve' and that's why they all like it.

It's the most known asset globally and soon, when the years pass by we'll see people talk about having 'bitcoin reserve' and this is the new standard, the digital gold that everyone is talking about.

Everyone will learn its history and just as how they've been interested with gold, they'll all be interested with it as well.

[CroverNo01]

I'm not a fan of gold, but from what I've observed, most people really like gold. Just talk about a necklace, watch or some other gold thing that people go crazy wanting to have, and the rich love to have gold bars in their vaults. As if they were preparing for some kind of global economic crisis. So I see that gold will remain attractive for many years to come, and as the years go by, gold will become more valuable. Just like bitcoin, as the next few years go by, bitcoin will become more valuable, which is why buying bitcoin and gold now and hodling them for many years is a good idea.

The economic system of a country is driven by the resources and power of government, they're incharge and controlling things doesn't seem to be an issue for them. The government have in possessed power to utter Gold and Bitcoin but some keeps deaf ears while some trigger the best part. Comparing Gold to Bitcoin is not measurable because Gold have been in existence long enough before Bitcoin was initiated into the real world and we know how that story line play down. Giving them longterm, they will survived because the world is changing, transforming into the modern age where everything becomes important, always producing new development and projects to the universe.

[MusaMohamed]

I'm not a fan of gold, but from what I've observed, most people really like gold. Just talk about a necklace, watch or some other gold thing that people go crazy wanting to have, and the rich love to have gold bars in their vaults. As if they were preparing for some kind of global economic crisis. So I see that gold will remain attractive for many years to come, and as the years go by, gold will become more valuable. Just like bitcoin, as the next few years go by, bitcoin will become more valuable, which is why buying bitcoin and gold now and hodling them for many years is a good idea.

The older people like gold because they are familiar with it, but the younger people or who are now in middle ages are more keen on Bitcoin. They are younger and can learn new things more easily and comfortably than the elderly.

Bitcoin is risky, volatile asset but in ROI, it is the best and surely better than Gold. ROIs for Bitcoin, gold and traditional assets can convince middle-aged and young people to invest their money in Bitcoin.

The ROI table https://casebitcoin.com/
If you need a chart, ROI chart https://casebitcoin.com/charts#roi_chart

Comparison on Bitcoin and gold in some attributes.
The bullish case for Bitcoin.

[fuguebtc]

I'm not a fan of gold, but from what I've observed, most people really like gold. Just talk about a necklace, watch or some other gold thing that people go crazy wanting to have, and the rich love to have gold bars in their vaults. As if they were preparing for some kind of global economic crisis. So I see that gold will remain attractive for many years to come, and as the years go by, gold will become more valuable. Just like bitcoin, as the next few years go by, bitcoin will become more valuable, which is why buying bitcoin and gold now and hodling them for many years is a good idea.

The older people like gold because they are familiar with it, but the younger people or who are now in middle ages are more keen on Bitcoin. They are younger and can learn new things more easily and comfortably than the elderly.

Bitcoin is risky, volatile asset but in ROI, it is the best and surely better than Gold. ROIs for Bitcoin, gold and traditional assets can convince middle-aged and young people to invest their money in Bitcoin.

The ROI table https://casebitcoin.com/
If you need a chart, ROI chart https://casebitcoin.com/charts#roi_chart

Comparison on Bitcoin and gold in some attributes.
The bullish case for Bitcoin.

We are talking about the best return asset so obviously bitcoin will be the winner because bitcoin is very new and has a small market cap so it is normal that it has a huge growth potential. But that comes with risk and volatility, while gold is a millennial asset with a market capitalization of nearly $20 trillion. 10 times more than bitcoin, so it can be said that gold is almost saturated in terms of growth, but in return it is more stable and safer than bitcoin .
In fact, comparing these two types of assets is quite lame and it is impossible to say which type of asset is better, it all depends on each person's choice and preference. Because each type has its own advantages and disadvantages .

Personally , I think there is no need to be proud of bitcoin being the highest yielding asset because there will come a time when bitcoin is like gold, the growth rate will slow down when it is large enough and there will be a new asset with superior performance .  It's the law and it's just a matter of time.

[fruktik]

At least when it comes to this market I doubt there is a single coin out there that was at any point more successful than bitcoin, since bitcoin went from being worth zero to its current market cap, and even if it is true that number is exaggerated, as exchanges are just multiplying the current price and the number of coins ever mined, the same is true for the rest of the coins on the market, and since there is no coin that has surpassed the market cap of bitcoin, then it is relatively safe to say that there has never been any altcoin that did better than bitcoin.

Well, I wouldn't be so sure about Bitcoin becoming the only coin with the largest capitalization. It's not time yet. Years will pass and then we can say this with confidence, if it remains so. After all, technologies do not stand still and they are constantly evolving. Why am I saying this? It is possible that in the near future a project will appear that will surpass the "first" coin in parameters and functionality.