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November 25, 2024, 06:48:02 PM
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I don't believe giving them so much relevance is the way to go. I don't see any reason for bashing them and reporting their articles. Everybody is allowed to have his own opinions. I have opinions that are against some things that other people favour, that's life. Everybody cannot be for something.
What I think we can do is just keep buying and educating people who are interested and ask you about it. Don't keep your bitcoin in centralised exchanges. Keep your bitcoin in a non-custodial wallet instead.

We didn't fight for bitcoin when it was below 1k when most of the world labelled it a Ponzi scheme, so why should you fight for it now that it's approaching 100k and showing people how wrong they were wrong about it?
Bitcoin is organic. It doesn't need people to create traffic or market it to survive.

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December 03, 2024, 01:04:00 PM
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It seems some responses say 'We have a house, a job, and food; so we don't need to fight for anything better.' This is the same attitude that stopped slaves from fighting for power for hundreds of years. I am going to phone the FBI for a third time to report the US DoJ moving coin again on Dec 2/24. The price crashed close to $5,000 and may take weeks to recover. The July 29/24 crash didn't recover until the Trump pump. These moves should be controlled by a public bitcoin policy and not by a few with wallet access to profit from every crash they create. 1-800-CALL-FBI (225-5324). It is criminal, and they should investigate. Microsoft votes Dec 10/24 to buy bitcoin. The board recommends a no vote. Grayscale and other bitcoin ETF whales are the largest Microsoft shareholders. That will create a ripple in price. The AGM may have a live public stream to watch those antics.
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December 03, 2024, 01:50:07 PM
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I don't believe giving them so much relevance is the way to go. I don't see any reason for bashing them and reporting their articles. Everybody is allowed to have his own opinions. I have opinions that are against some things that other people favour, that's life. Everybody cannot be for something.
People are allowed to have their own opinions but they shouldn’t form opinions based on non-factual information and biased views. Education is key and if someone asks me to help them understand bitcoin, I will gladly do so and if they end up still not liking bitcoin then I can accept it. But I don’t want to put so much effort. All information is available on the internet. We need to just guide them towards the right path.
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We didn't fight for bitcoin when it was below 1k when most of the world labelled it a Ponzi scheme, so why should you fight for it now that it's approaching 100k and showing people how wrong they were wrong about it?
Bitcoin is organic. It doesn't need people to create traffic or market it to survive.
It survived back then, it would keep surviving now. Not only surviving actually, bitcoin is thriving.
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December 03, 2024, 02:55:07 PM
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That is a passive response. If you believe that bitcoin will win on its own merit, then you are correct. My point is that we can fight and win to put it on top faster.

Bitcoin already win, the fact that it's market cap is bigger than silver market cap should be enough to understand how It win.

There is not mucho to do about It, It already has enough promotion and enough money for the succes. Those Who know how to ride the wave will win too.
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December 03, 2024, 04:01:24 PM
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Bitcoin will always be the winner. Don't mind the bad news about bitcoin, it will always be number one. Even from a few years ago, many people tried to bring bitcoin down and said that bitcoin will fall or even disappear, but the truth is no. Bitcoin has already beaten the silver marketcap, and it will probably keep up with gold sooner or later, and i believe it will even beat it. So, don't listen to any fud about bitcoin, it's pointless, because fundamentally bitcoin is unbeatable, and i believe and agreed regarding the narrative which says that Bitcoin is gold version 2.0.

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December 03, 2024, 04:11:24 PM
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Peter Schiff is harmless imo. He might be a clown but he is only expressing his opinions. Why would you make an enemy of him? There will always some people who'll hate bitcoin with or without any reason. Schiff is not a government worker, he has no power at all.

You are right with the others as far as I see though. The dems and Gary will be taken care of soon. Legacy media too hopefully. CNN deserves to be in the trash can.

In the end bitcoin will bury any of these cockroaches. No need to worry about it. Remember, Bitcoin doesn't need us, we need it.

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December 03, 2024, 04:37:35 PM
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No need to worry about how people are criticizing bitcoin, because it shows that those are bitcoin haters and fail to accept the fact that bitcoin is the new digital asset that can transform their whole life if only they can accept the fact and invest. Turn deaf ears to whatever they are saying, because it's not new and bitcoin have being proving them wrong since the beginning and had also put them to shame. Teach your friends, family and relatives about the basics of bitcoin and if they're interested to invest, you show them how to do it, as your own contribution to the bitcoin community.

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December 03, 2024, 07:09:05 PM
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This board should have the will to fight and win for the value of bitcoin. We need to use the powers we have to defeat the evils that want to keep it down. I will list a few of the bad actors, and methods of combat.

- Peter Schiff: He makes profits on gold and fears that bitcoin will force him to sell his house and turn his daughters into prostitutes. He slams bitcoin but no other crypto because of his fear of the 'king coin'. Any media that quotes this desperate fool should be slammed hard. Comment on the articles that they are posting fake news by 'the desperate fool'.

- Gary Gensler: to be resolved Jan 20

- Dems and the DoJ: On Monday, July 29, 2024. The US government moved 29,800 of its total hoard of 230,000 coin. The FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) in the market caused the price to crash $3,000. This was two days after the Trump speech in Nashville. The speech and the hype up to it, had the price up to $70,000ish from the Mt Gox and Saxony crashes. I reported this to the FBI as either election fraud or market manipulation. They think I have a tin foil hat.

- Saxony: They sold criminal seized coin on the open market and we hope they learned a lesson. All public coin should have democratic policy about sales of criminal seized coin. This should apply to all countries including China.

- Paywall media: If you google 'bitcoin news', the top hits are media sites with bad news headlines that you can't read without a subscription.

There are many more to list. Please add. ~~~~
Don't care for Peter Schiff and If I am not wrong most of the members here also don't care for him because he can't do any harm to BTC so those who are not investing in BTC and following him are making their own decision as noone is allowed to force others to invest in BTC it's their choice.

Gary is retiring good news, I am happy along with many projects, I just can't beleive one thing that they aplogized CZ and asked him to reinsate him as CEO agian, I mean even that can possible.

The crash and the selling from Germany or by MT Gox was planned already I am not sure about Saxony, but Mt Gox has already shared a year ago that they will start their distribution in the October of 2024. So can't say if it's manipulation.

Speaking of media I don't think we should depend on one media source because even the big ones can make wrong moves for example last time in January when it was the hype of ETF approval Cointelegraph author published false news and the whole market moves up as it was total manipulatoin and disaster at the same time many benefited but later they just made an apologize which was not enough obviously for those who made huge loss.

Point is people should not read news from one or two sites they should at least have 5 to 10 source of news totally unique not the ones copyng and pasting each other's news. TG and Twitter are the best sources for the news.

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December 03, 2024, 08:54:43 PM
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No need to worry about how people are criticizing bitcoin, because it shows that those are bitcoin haters and fail to accept the fact that bitcoin is the new digital asset that can transform their whole life if only they can accept the fact and invest. Turn deaf ears to whatever they are saying, because it's not new and bitcoin have being proving them wrong since the beginning and had also put them to shame. Teach your friends, family and relatives about the basics of bitcoin and if they're interested to invest, you show them how to do it, as your own contribution to the bitcoin community.
We really don't need to worry about those critics. Bitcoin history can't be narrated completely without adding them in the picture; they all have a role, which the player is pushing Bitcoin to the level that it's at today. They run free promotions and create indirect awareness for Bitcoin while trying to criticise it in public.
 
Bitcoin has passed that level where hate speech does affect it again, but yet people will still keep on talking against it, either because they are too ashamed to embrace the fact that they were wrong all this while or it could be because they are among those who don't like seeing good things flourish.
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December 03, 2024, 09:16:57 PM
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Bitcoin is not for everyone and not limited to the saboteurs criticizing the valuabilities of bitcoin.so let them be as Speculations about bitcoin is a free to say.
Perhaps there had been a lot of anti bitcoiners who had in time make a U-turn to embrace bitcoin even after much critics. Indeed Donald Trump of toddy contributing to this great level bitcoin is an obvious example.

Bitcoin is for everyone , those that kept criticizing and stuff is their loss . Many still doubt bitcoin potential till now and we can't do anything about because is their personal choice to be in the shadow.

They will keep criticizing and waiting for bitcoin to drop to 0$ while bitcoin is busy creating new ATHs and gaining more adoption, just focus on building and securing a  position in bitcoin by having some nice  amount of portions of bitcoin and hold for long as bitcoin continues with it's breakthroughs.

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Bitcoin is for everyone , those that kept criticizing and stuff is their loss . Many still doubt bitcoin potential till now and we can't do anything about because is their personal choice to be in the shadow.

They will keep criticizing and waiting for bitcoin to drop to 0$ while bitcoin is busy creating new ATHs and gaining more adoption, just focus on building and securing a  position in bitcoin by having some nice  amount of portions of bitcoin and hold for long as bitcoin continues with it's breakthroughs.

There's no need to convince anyone to go into this market. Whether they will join or not, doesn't matter. As this market will continue to thrive without them. Even large economy like China can't topple the existence of crypto market. If you are in the position whether you want to defend this currency or not, think about it - you don't need to defend this market. Just let them realize what's their missing out. And time will be the factor in this situation.

Bitcoin will always be the winner. Don't mind the bad news about bitcoin, it will always be number one. Even from a few years ago, many people tried to bring bitcoin down and said that bitcoin will fall or even disappear, but the truth is no. Bitcoin has already beaten the silver marketcap, and it will probably keep up with gold sooner or later, and i believe it will even beat it. So, don't listen to any fud about bitcoin, it's pointless, because fundamentally bitcoin is unbeatable, and i believe and agreed regarding the narrative which says that Bitcoin is gold version 2.0.

Fud or not, it depends on you how you will take advantage of this market. If you are already here, it means, this market got your interest. And for sure, you've done a lot of searches as well. Now, it is on you how you will attack this market to get the profits that you want.

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December 03, 2024, 11:23:10 PM
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How will anyone call for a fight on behalf of something that is already winning the suckers and the haters. Bitcoin doesn't require a fight or attacks from it's adopters towards the gang of pessimists on bitcoin. I do believe that the best way to fight if it's anything necessary of a fight it's by hodling our bitcoin's and planning on accumulating more rather than thinking of selling as price goes close to 100k. Because selling off of our bitcoin's is what the haters always want of us than hodling because the more we hodl the more bitcoin continue to gain more institutional ground spreading wide attracting new investors through it growing value.
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If you want to care about Bitcoin, you must pay attention to a few things. You should be very careful about the security of the wallet you choose to hold your Bitcoins in particular. You must be aware that no one can gain access to your wallet. Also you must be careful when using centralized exchanges or you can never think of your bitcoins as safe for you. Central exchanges can take access to your bitcoin at any time, so if you want to hold it for a long time, you must focus on choosing a wallet rather than an exchange.











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This board should have the will to fight and win for the value of bitcoin. We need to use the powers we have to defeat the evils that want to keep it down. I will list a few of the bad actors, and methods of combat.

In fact, we have seen many crimes in this world occur and people will try to link one event to another, even bitcoin is associated with more violent crimes by haters and they will only spread negative issues to bring down bitcoin.
But what happens is the opposite because bitcoin has already gained a place and all the negative accusations they try to say are completely baseless.
Bitcoin is not influenced by one person in its journey and bitcoin will remain a winner as long as people believe in freedom as a step towards better financial ability.

We can ignore the negative things that people try to accuse Bitcoin of because in reality everyone will think the same about its use and utilization because negative news will continue to emerge even before Bitcoin develops as it is now.

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December 04, 2024, 02:52:38 AM
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If you care about Bitcoin, I would say never use centralized exchange anymore.

Why stop to use centralized exchange?
It's because many risks from centralized exchanges.
Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts.

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because when you send your coins to the exchange, the exchange can access your coins, which is kill the decentralization.
I care more about safety of my bitcoin and by using centralized exchanges, I have to deposit my bitcoin to my account on centralized exchanges, that deposit destroy my control on my bitcoin. I will have to depend on a centralized exchange, to approve my withdrawal for me, to access my bitcoin again after their withdrawal processing and the corresponding transaction is confirmed by Bitcoin miners. Before that confirmation, my bitcoins belong to that centralized exchange.

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When you want to trade your coins for other currency, the transaction happened by off-chain, this mean you didn't contribute to the network.
It is about on chain transactions and on chain transaction fees to Bitcoin miners.

Some more contribution to decentralization of Bitcoin network is running either a Bitcoin full node or prune node to help verifying Bitcoin blocks.
What does a node do?

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Honestly I agree, Peter can't do much, he has been talking against it for years and he always failed, makes no sense to go against him at all, he is useless and worthless in a bitcoin topic. Gary is true, he is gone, and to be fair the rest is just right wing media feed from a twitter troll and nothing more.

I understand you may feel what you feel and I understand you may think you have a decent belief and "proof" in your mind that it's true, all of them, but they are not and there are reasons to these things and it doesn't really matter because bitcoin is 95k and nearly going to 100k and that means we are doing fine. So OP might be wrong about all the tin foil hat ideas that he has, but at the end we are going to be fine and doing fine so far.

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In the crypto world, bitcoin is like gold which is the basic asset for other coins. In fact, many giant companies in the world use bitcoin as their company's basic asset. The long history of bitcoin proves that bitcoin is increasingly trusted and more and more large companies are adopting bitcoin as their basic asset.

As long as there is no other currency system that can beat what bitcoin offers, bitcoin and crypto will continue to grow. I still remember a few years ago when the price of bitcoin, many people panicked and content creators who did not understand and tended to corner bitcoin. As a result, they lost the opportunity to make money. Negative news will continue to exist against bitcoin almost every year there is news that corners bitcoin but in reality bitcoin remains strong and even continues to grow.

 
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December 04, 2024, 01:54:46 PM
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I don't believe giving them so much relevance is the way to go. I don't see any reason for bashing them and reporting their articles. Everybody is allowed to have his own opinions. I have opinions that are against some things that other people favour, that's life. Everybody cannot be for something.
What I think we can do is just keep buying and educating people who are interested and ask you about it. Don't keep your bitcoin in centralised exchanges. Keep your bitcoin in a non-custodial wallet instead.

We didn't fight for bitcoin when it was below 1k when most of the world labelled it a Ponzi scheme, so why should you fight for it now that it's approaching 100k and showing people how wrong they were wrong about it?
Bitcoin is organic. It doesn't need people to create traffic or market it to survive.

When they even talk about fighting for Bitcoin whom exactly are we going to fight because there are fight that should be disregarded because is a waste of time and truly Bitcoin is that kind, an assets that depends on people to fight for is a weak assets because it means that without that it cannot survive but fortunately Bitcoin is not a weak assets because is the kind of assets that grow to the extent that those who were fighting against it come back to accept the growth, however no matter any wrong cook up stories or articles published by someone about Bitcoin it doesn't change anything and there is no need to attack the person because if such thing will affect Bitcoin it would have done that long ago, so actually the only thing I see to be important is buying Bitcoin. However if there is any side that should talk about fight is other cryptocurrency that are struggling for growth but not Bitcoin.

 
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December 04, 2024, 02:04:47 PM
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In the crypto world, bitcoin is like gold which is the basic asset for other coins. In fact, many giant companies in the world use bitcoin as their company's basic asset. The long history of bitcoin proves that bitcoin is increasingly trusted and more and more large companies are adopting bitcoin as their basic asset.

As long as there is no other currency system that can beat what bitcoin offers, bitcoin and crypto will continue to grow. I still remember a few years ago when the price of bitcoin, many people panicked and content creators who did not understand and tended to corner bitcoin. As a result, they lost the opportunity to make money. Negative news will continue to exist against bitcoin almost every year there is news that corners bitcoin but in reality bitcoin remains strong and even continues to grow.
Yes, if we study the history of Bitcoin, we will know about the real success of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is becoming increasingly strong as "digital gold", because currently many big companies are investing and holding huge amounts of money in Bitcoin, such as MSTR, BlackRock, MARA, Tesla, and many more big companies are holding Bitcoin.
Those who did not understand the true future potential of Bitcoin, and did not believe in Bitcoin and stayed away from Bitcoin, have missed a life-changing opportunity.
There will always be negative news and confusion, but those who believe in Bitcoin, hold it fearlessly with a long-term view, they are going to achieve great success in the future.

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December 04, 2024, 02:08:20 PM
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Bitcoin will always be the winner. Don't mind the bad news about bitcoin, it will always be number one. Even from a few years ago, many people tried to bring bitcoin down and said that bitcoin will fall or even disappear, but the truth is no. Bitcoin has already beaten the silver marketcap, and it will probably keep up with gold sooner or later, and i believe it will even beat it. So, don't listen to any fud about bitcoin, it's pointless, because fundamentally bitcoin is unbeatable, and i believe and agreed regarding the narrative which says that Bitcoin is gold version 2.0.

The position of bitcoin can not be taken and it as been writing from day one that nothing can change the position of bitcoin as the king and been the first I doubt if anyone will trust any other coin the way they will trust bitcoin, and that is why no matter how bad that news is, it might affect the price of bitcoin at that particular time but for sure it will still bounce back, why because it is normal for every stock to experience what bitcoin is experiencing sometimes, you will always see negative news about bitcoin and I don't know why a lot of people are trying to bring it down, what they should have know is that even the government have tried but it did not work so it shows that bitcoin is immune to all this.

And I love how the initiative was futuristic and it did actually work and that is why some times you wonder if satoshi seen the future, because everything is going as planned, the fact that the price will come very low and then go up given other investors the opportunity to invest, and I don't think fud is now a problem to bitcoin, and in no time bitcoin might even replace gold is now as if the era of gold is gradually coming to an end because it's heavy and many more except for the digital gold.











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