1Win Saturday Weekly Poker Event Discussion

[memehunter]

Good to see some cheaters got flagged. It is also nice that 1win is also doing its part to flag abusers. I will be participating in today's event and will keep a close eye on many tables. Hopefully we will have same fun as usual. I like this tournament quite a lot (ok the original buy-in version a lot more lol) and want to thank 1win and Royse again for keeping it going. Good luck guys in today's event. Let's play some cards .
 

[rbynxx]

I do like to call the attention of @AB de Royse777 because I guess these two users are probably cheaters and was surprised that no one on the table also reacted with this call of CoinLord. How on earth will you call that all-in when in fact you have 0% chance of winning it? The accounts in question are Tsims and CoinLord. This is for the 3rd event held last Saturday.

https://www.pokernow.club/hand-replayer/mtt/1win-sat-poker-43-oF6K5H3bm_/hand/pwreyqmqfduu?frame=0
(never mind why I close that hand, I'm offline at that moment but when I get back this was what I witnessed)


Coinlord calls 3500, Tsims call to go all-in.


CoinLord calls it with 0% chance. Unbelievable!!

[memehunter]

@rbynxx, first of all thanks for all of your efforts. This type of active community monitoring is the only way to make these poker events fair which is a good thing for all.
Nobody is going to tag anyone because of the way any hand got played BUT it will create a awareness among players and instill extra fear among cheaters and this will act like another obstacle to them. They will know that every move is on the watch list of active members. So kudos! to you mate.
Now coming back to the hand in focus here, IMO only Woodie can explain this but there are only 3 possibilities,

1.) Mis click.
2.) Misread the hand.
3.) Collusion/Chip dumping.

The other player is a recent new player as I don't remember him from any of my tournaments.   

[Woodie]

Collude with who and why.. if you are so much interested why don't you see how I go out in all my games then comeback here and say the same thing!

Besides does going all in always mean you have the best hands no!

And btw you know how they say a picture paints a thousand words, this is the case, remove the turn &river..midway when the flop was up I had 3 diamonds ,and everyone kept checking and I just fancied my chances as everyone kept checking hinting bad hands on the table and if you see what I was hunting for maybe you would see it.

[memehunter]

Collude with who and why..

Usually this is a common tactic by cheaters to enroll multiple accounts in a tournament and just dump chips to one of their accounts in order to gain an advantage in terms of bigger stack.

if you are so much interested why don't you see how I go out in all my games then comeback here and say the same thing!

Honestly it does not matter how carelessly you play (or pretending to be play) this hand is highly suspicious (even more after your non-explanatory reply). Usually when we misclick/misread our hand, we have a vivid remembrance of that instance. It is not like you bluffed and get caught, you called after thinking few seconds (misread/misclikcs are usually instant) major part of your stack.
I would love to know your thought process in the hand.
BTW if you are that careless why you finished 54th (sign of early stage chip dumping) not 72 0r 74th, I mean you can get out in the very first hand right?   

[mv1986]

Collude with who and why.. if you are so much interested why don't you see how I go out in all my games then comeback here and say the same thing!

Besides does going all in always mean you have the best hands no!

@rbynxx
@memehunter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNOKICXGgBU (watch from 1:10)

Besides does scoring a goal always mean it will benefit your own team no! 

@Woodie it's all good, you are right that going all in doesn't have to mean you have the best hand. BUT when you call, it has to mean that you think you are ahead. For the sake of plausibility, what hand did you put your opponent on considering how the whole hand enfolded? be honest, what do you think the other player had? Let's at least have a chance to understand your move because you called, you did not bluff!

[memehunter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNOKICXGgBU (watch from 1:10)

To all cricket fans,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNJTii8tfsk

Let's at least have a chance to understand your move because you called, you did not bluff!

EXACTLY.

[memehunter]

Besides does going all in always mean you have the best hands no!

And btw you know how they say a picture paints a thousand words, this is the case, remove the turn &river..midway when the flop was up I had 3 diamonds ,and everyone kept checking and I just fancied my chances as everyone kept checking hinting bad hands on the table and if you see what I was hunting for maybe you would see it.

Why you edited your reply instead of replying after mine and mv's post.
You did not go all in mate, you called the opponent's all in, that is the whole discussion here (I don't know how many times we have to ask this). Did you think you are catching his bluff with 10 high, there is nothing wrong in that though process too. After all this has been done before also: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z2OCM_ku1Pg

@Can you please check some previous hands also between these two? Are they both on your table the whole time or one of them just joined and this happened.

[Woodie]

I don't no what you think you are up to @memehunter, you guys record these videos go review the game play!

I have subscribed / bought in to poker events with better rewards and not hard the time to play then I waste time to collude in a free roll game for free spins that never get to be played.. and how many times have I played where your guy has played too ??  Besides, I don't even usually play these consistently so why now, when I play to pass time.

Waiting for video review...

[mv1986]

I now honestly think that Woodie is one of the many geniuses we have in our poker games... 3 diamonds...

In real life stupidity doesn't protect you from getting penalized if you violate the law, but in poker you can show your fiercest disabilities and not be punished other than dropping out. Frankly, I think he doesn't understand the game and he did not collude. He convinced me of lacking any mathematical sense.

No joke though, if this happened during a serious round of poker in public (like on Youtube / TV), there would be a never-ending shitstorm. And while we think there must be a limit to mathematical misunderstanding and stupid calls, I now begin to think that everything is possible here.

@Woodie, if your calculations told you that you may beat your opponent with 10 5, then just admit it here and it is ok. Maybe just answer:

"After my thorough calculations within my personal IQ limits, I came to the conclusion that 10 5 is good, hence I called an overall 50 BB all in with nothing".

[memehunter]

I don't no what you think you are up to @memehunter,

Analyzing a highly suspicious looking gameplay. And it is not only me (in fact I was the one who said there might be another reasons) who thinks this deserves a discussion.

not hard the time to play then I waste time to collude in a free roll game for free spins that never get to be played.

Still you played in the freeroll worth $1000.

Waiting for video review...

Hand replay is not enough for you to explain? It is practically impossible to record every table of a poker tournament with 70+ players. Pokernow stored every hand for the few days for your table. BTW what should we look for in case someone has recorded a video? It will still be hand play and a discussion around it.
It is not like there will be a video streaming cheater's chats and messages among each other in case there are different cheaters.  

[Woodie]

It's 4 days later, honestly I don't remember what was going on this table but Sunday at that time I usually go watch football so I don't even recall this whole thing properly.

And just a disclaimer am not a pro poker player, hello👋

Besides, I have seen players say they have to rush somewhere say it in the chat go all in with every given opportunity and instead of losing player gets on a winning run....

Hand replay is not enough for you to explain? It is practically impossible to record every table of a poker tournament with 70+ players. Pokernow stored every hand for the few days for your table. BTW what should we look for in case someone has recorded a video? It will still be hand play and a discussion around it.
It is not like there will be a video streaming cheater's chats and messages among each other in case there are different cheaters.  

In the video..

Simple, consistency in how I play!
Let me make it easy for you guys..I have nothing to prove, won't be playing any more of the poker after all this is the only place I play it not even IRL.

** Btw with all poker games that happen,(paid & Freeroll) I don't think I have played more than 10 that should tell you something, let me check if PokerNow has these records**

[rbynxx]

It's 4 days later, honestly I don't remember what was going on this table but Sunday at that time I usually go watch football so I don't even recall this whole thing properly.

Okay, let's just give you the benefit of the doubt in here, and I don't even know that it was you in the first place considering your pokernow username is different than your bitcointalk forum username. I don't think it would be out of discussion even after a whole week, the reason I didn't get the chance to discuss it here further after the event ended was because we were in the middle of a typhoon and we just got our electricity back just recently.

And just a disclaimer am not a pro poker player, hello👋

That's not even an excuse tbh, we all started as newbies but I don't think I'd do what you did there.