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January 08, 2025, 08:25:54 AM
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What you wrote about how you can pretend to be a beginner led me to a simple conclusion about how to prove that casinos do not play along with beginners in games. If casinos really played along with newcomers, then casinos would go bankrupt due to a massive attack by "newcomers", because people would quickly realize that winnings and new accounts have a relationship.
Try to think again more realistically, when the casino provides game that is easy to win by beginner, then after the victory they are addicted to trying to get bigger win with more money and bigger bets, this is where the casino profit is obtained and from the many bets, all of them must have much larger percentage of loss than the amount of winnings given at the beginning of the game.
They use local online casino will be able to find and experience events like this, especially if like to change gambling sites one with another.
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January 08, 2025, 08:44:58 AM
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What you wrote about how you can pretend to be a beginner led me to a simple conclusion about how to prove that casinos do not play along with beginners in games. If casinos really played along with newcomers, then casinos would go bankrupt due to a massive attack by "newcomers", because people would quickly realize that winnings and new accounts have a relationship.
A casino would not go bankrupt if they play along the beginners because usually it would just be 2-3 rounds anyway that a beginner may win.

Sometimes just one win for the first round would be enough to mess with the beginner's mind. To me, it is all psychological more than the technicality of how the games are set up. You win once and you think you are going to win consecutively so you go again, and again and again. I do not think people would be making new accounts just to win a couple of rounds. 1) It is prohibited to have multiple accounts and you are going to have to find a way to make a new one and 2) Some people would not find it worth it to make a new account just to win a few rounds when they have already established an account in the platform and gets some benefits and bonuses from it.

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January 08, 2025, 08:50:23 AM
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What you wrote about how you can pretend to be a beginner led me to a simple conclusion about how to prove that casinos do not play along with beginners in games. If casinos really played along with newcomers, then casinos would go bankrupt due to a massive attack by "newcomers", because people would quickly realize that winnings and new accounts have a relationship.
A casino would not go bankrupt if they play along the beginners because usually it would just be 2-3 rounds anyway that a beginner may win.

Sometimes just one win for the first round would be enough to mess with the beginner's mind. To me, it is all psychological more than the technicality of how the games are set up. You win once and you think you are going to win consecutively so you go again, and again and again. I do not think people would be making new accounts just to win a couple of rounds. 1) It is prohibited to have multiple accounts and you are going to have to find a way to make a new one and 2) Some people would not find it worth it to make a new account just to win a few rounds when they have already established an account in the platform and gets some benefits and bonuses from it.

Right, the chances of all gamblers winning due to the concept of beginners luck or not, is very low so I do not believed that they will bankrupt because of this. And as you have explain, it's not that everyone experience this, although this phenomena could happen to us before initially, it's not going to be duplicated again and again.

And creating new accounts just to say that they are newbie and could experience it again? Lol. That could be the worst belief in gambling. So just enjoy if you experience it but then don't be foolish that you will get to see it again.

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January 08, 2025, 09:16:33 AM
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What you wrote about how you can pretend to be a beginner led me to a simple conclusion about how to prove that casinos do not play along with beginners in games. If casinos really played along with newcomers, then casinos would go bankrupt due to a massive attack by "newcomers", because people would quickly realize that winnings and new accounts have a relationship.
Try to think again more realistically, when the casino provides game that is easy to win by beginner, then after the victory they are addicted to trying to get bigger win with more money and bigger bets, this is where the casino profit is obtained and from the many bets, all of them must have much larger percentage of loss than the amount of winnings given at the beginning of the game.
They use local online casino will be able to find and experience events like this, especially if like to change gambling sites one with another.
All this time we often see beginners can get a win and it seems that there is a design that is deliberately made by the casino to attract them to more involved in gambling, so I think this is nothing but one of the strategies that will test the psychology of beginners, because after all the casino system has been specifically designed only for their benefit in the long run, so I think the victory obtained by beginners may only be in one or two bets they make, while then with the victory of course beginners will be more tempted to gamble even more and in the end victory will still belong to the casino.
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January 08, 2025, 11:38:51 AM
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Yes, it is true that not all gamblers win the first time they gamble because when gambling is based on luck, winning is uncertain. Those who gamble based on luck, if they win first, they appreciate gambling a lot and those who lose first may lose some balance towards gambling. However, if a beginner wins at gambling first, he will become more interested in gambling and will prepare himself for gambling later. When I first started gambling, that is, when I was a beginner, I won at gambling the first time, even though I was a beginner, I still won at sports betting because I had some experience in sports.
Maybe some people really gets their luck in their first time playing gambling while other beginners will not get the same things as them. Usually, those beginners come to casino because they are curious with gambling and they want to try how it feels. Suddenly, they gets their first winning that impress them so that can makes them think that they can lucky in other days. At that point, they must realize that their luck can not come every time they gamble so they must hold their back not to playing gambling too often. They must know how to control themselves before they playing gambling so they can think that winning in gambling will need luck and many things so they will not force themselves to keep playing gambling.

It's just a good timing when they place their first bet or it's their lucky day when they hit that decent amount and win something out from the house, though like what you just mentioned not all have that same outcome, there are also gamblers who loses a lot but didn't find any chance of experiencing any luck to back their bet up, losing their first try and unable to cope, some of them continue to bet and lose more while some did not want to experienced another and wisely quit and stop.

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January 08, 2025, 12:25:19 PM
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Gamble beginners normally get some luck when they begin to gamble newly, and that's the moment they begins to believe they could generate a wealth through gamble with the same strategy they used. But new gamblers should enjoy the winnings they get and avoid being too attracted to gamble just because of greed. Greed can make both new or old gamblers lose more than they can afford to risk.

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January 08, 2025, 12:26:12 PM
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Right, the chances of all gamblers winning due to the concept of beginners luck or not, is very low so I do not believed that they will bankrupt because of this. And as you have explain, it's not that everyone experience this, although this phenomena could happen to us before initially, it's not going to be duplicated again and again.

And creating new accounts just to say that they are newbie and could experience it again? Lol. That could be the worst belief in gambling. So just enjoy if you experience it but then don't be foolish that you will get to see it again.
A newbie won't play for big money, and even if we stick to the theory that newbies can be encouraged, I'm almost sure that it can be a loyal community, if it exists at all. But I agree with you that creating multiple accounts just to earn money on the initial games is more like stupidity, which is unlikely to justify itself. You still won't be able to make big money on this, so it's better to immediately think about whether you can achieve long-term results in gambling, if not, then perhaps you shouldn't even start, or treat it purely as entertainment.

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January 08, 2025, 12:32:49 PM
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Gamble beginners normally get some luck when they begin to gamble newly, and that's the moment they begins to believe they could generate a wealth through gamble with the same strategy they used. But new gamblers should enjoy the winnings they get and avoid being too attracted to gamble just because of greed. Greed can make both new or old gamblers lose more than they can afford to risk.

It’s not a normal thing to become lucky when you are newbie.In fact many gamblers lose the first time they try gambling. Newbie gamblers usually just easy to appreciate their profit and take profit easily that’s why they can secure profit and called it beginners luck.

In contrary to old time gambler that doesn’t stop whenever they won already since still want to push their luck to earn more. Their experience makes their profit expectation increase that’s why they always lose.

I don’t believe on beginners luck. It’s just a term which a newbie use since they have little expectation the first time they try so they appreciate any win.

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January 09, 2025, 08:40:07 AM
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Gamble beginners normally get some luck when they begin to gamble newly, and that's the moment they begins to believe they could generate a wealth through gamble with the same strategy they used. But new gamblers should enjoy the winnings they get and avoid being too attracted to gamble just because of greed. Greed can make both new or old gamblers lose more than they can afford to risk.

It’s not a normal thing to become lucky when you are newbie.In fact many gamblers lose the first time they try gambling. Newbie gamblers usually just easy to appreciate their profit and take profit easily that’s why they can secure profit and called it beginners luck.

In contrary to old time gambler that doesn’t stop whenever they won already since still want to push their luck to earn more. Their experience makes their profit expectation increase that’s why they always lose.

I don’t believe on beginners luck. It’s just a term which a newbie use since they have little expectation the first time they try so they appreciate any win.
Yeah. Still, it's more like "beginner's luck", it's a psychological phenomenon associated with the lack of gambling experience of such a person and the fact that this is, in principle, a new type of activity for him. And as is known, any person always initially has too high expectations from a new type of activity. Which usually evaporate as experience is gained or simply due to a decrease in interest in this type of activity. This is approximately what happens when a person starts gambling for the first time.
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January 09, 2025, 09:29:09 AM
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Gamble beginners normally get some luck when they begin to gamble newly, and that's the moment they begins to believe they could generate a wealth through gamble with the same strategy they used. But new gamblers should enjoy the winnings they get and avoid being too attracted to gamble just because of greed. Greed can make both new or old gamblers lose more than they can afford to risk.

It’s not a normal thing to become lucky when you are newbie.In fact many gamblers lose the first time they try gambling. Newbie gamblers usually just easy to appreciate their profit and take profit easily that’s why they can secure profit and called it beginners luck.

In contrary to old time gambler that doesn’t stop whenever they won already since still want to push their luck to earn more. Their experience makes their profit expectation increase that’s why they always lose.

I don’t believe on beginners luck. It’s just a term which a newbie use since they have little expectation the first time they try so they appreciate any win.
Yeah. Still, it's more like "beginner's luck", it's a psychological phenomenon associated with the lack of gambling experience of such a person and the fact that this is, in principle, a new type of activity for him. And as is known, any person always initially has too high expectations from a new type of activity. Which usually evaporate as experience is gained or simply due to a decrease in interest in this type of activity. This is approximately what happens when a person starts gambling for the first time.
Also, beginners do not react strongly to losing, but they have a very stormy and bright emotion to winning, this is very addictive and is remembered for life, so they often say that beginners are lucky. Even if they were not going to play for a long time and refused to continue today, then the next day or in a week they will remember this fun time and want to play again. In fact, everything works according to the standard scheme, and they think that they will not depend on gambling, but this is the main mistake of beginners. And if they are lucky on the first day of the game, then on the second and subsequent days they will most likely give this casino much more if they do not learn to control themselves and do not understand the mechanism of the casino and their earnings on players.

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January 09, 2025, 09:30:36 AM
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A newbie won't play for big money, and even if we stick to the theory that newbies can be encouraged, I'm almost sure that it can be a loyal community, if it exists at all. But I agree with you that creating multiple accounts just to earn money on the initial games is more like stupidity, which is unlikely to justify itself. You still won't be able to make big money on this, so it's better to immediately think about whether you can achieve long-term results in gambling, if not, then perhaps you shouldn't even start, or treat it purely as entertainment.
Long term targets are usually most realistic and workable,  the  problem has only been with gamblers not been able to be patient enough in that regards,  they most probably want to get everything at once, they don't want to even try to see if they can in anyway exercise some patience  ad follow up with building up with small odds they just want a big hit at once, some newbies may not follow in this path initially but with ti.e you see that they get to follow that path due to greed.

 
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Gamble beginners normally get some luck when they begin to gamble newly, and that's the moment they begins to believe they could generate a wealth through gamble with the same strategy they used. But new gamblers should enjoy the winnings they get and avoid being too attracted to gamble just because of greed. Greed can make both new or old gamblers lose more than they can afford to risk.

It’s not a normal thing to become lucky when you are newbie.In fact many gamblers lose the first time they try gambling. Newbie gamblers usually just easy to appreciate their profit and take profit easily that’s why they can secure profit and called it beginners luck.

In contrary to old time gambler that doesn’t stop whenever they won already since still want to push their luck to earn more. Their experience makes their profit expectation increase that’s why they always lose.

I don’t believe on beginners luck. It’s just a term which a newbie use since they have little expectation the first time they try so they appreciate any win.
Yeah. Still, it's more like "beginner's luck", it's a psychological phenomenon associated with the lack of gambling experience of such a person and the fact that this is, in principle, a new type of activity for him. And as is known, any person always initially has too high expectations from a new type of activity. Which usually evaporate as experience is gained or simply due to a decrease in interest in this type of activity. This is approximately what happens when a person starts gambling for the first time.
Also, beginners do not react strongly to losing, but they have a very stormy and bright emotion to winning, this is very addictive and is remembered for life, so they often say that beginners are lucky. Even if they were not going to play for a long time and refused to continue today, then the next day or in a week they will remember this fun time and want to play again. In fact, everything works according to the standard scheme, and they think that they will not depend on gambling, but this is the main mistake of beginners. And if they are lucky on the first day of the game, then on the second and subsequent days they will most likely give this casino much more if they do not learn to control themselves and do not understand the mechanism of the casino and their earnings on players.
There is definitely a time bomb here. Considering that most newbies still experience great euphoria from winning and from the game in general, this of course makes them return to the game as quickly as possible. And if a person does not have sufficient logical thinking skills and never does at least an elementary analysis of his game history, and also has weak willpower, then in this case it is quite likely that a direct path to gambling addiction opens up for him.
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January 09, 2025, 10:03:35 AM
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A newbie won't play for big money, and even if we stick to the theory that newbies can be encouraged, I'm almost sure that it can be a loyal community, if it exists at all. But I agree with you that creating multiple accounts just to earn money on the initial games is more like stupidity, which is unlikely to justify itself. You still won't be able to make big money on this, so it's better to immediately think about whether you can achieve long-term results in gambling, if not, then perhaps you shouldn't even start, or treat it purely as entertainment.
Long term targets are usually most realistic and workable,  the  problem has only been with gamblers not been able to be patient enough in that regards,  they most probably want to get everything at once, they don't want to even try to see if they can in anyway exercise some patience  ad follow up with building up with small odds they just want a big hit at once, some newbies may not follow in this path initially but with ti.e you see that they get to follow that path due to greed.
Newbies most likely just don't have huge greed because they don't yet understand what it means to win big money, and at the same time there is a feeling of winning even more. In addition, they don't know what tilt is, a series of losses, and so on. That's why it looks like a new player is happy and enjoys small wins, and many have the deceptive impression that everything is fine with him and his luck is huge, unlike other players who already know that not everything is so good, positive and fun is always. Next time if I see a newbie who is happy with victories, I will silently watch him, but I will not spoil his pleasure from the game, telling him that everything is much more complicated in the game.

 
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January 09, 2025, 10:20:40 AM
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It’s not a normal thing to become lucky when you are newbie.In fact many gamblers lose the first time they try gambling. Newbie gamblers usually just easy to appreciate their profit and take profit easily that’s why they can secure profit and called it beginners luck.

In contrary to old time gambler that doesn’t stop whenever they won already since still want to push their luck to earn more. Their experience makes their profit expectation increase that’s why they always lose.

I don’t believe on beginners luck. It’s just a term which a newbie use since they have little expectation the first time they try so they appreciate any win.

I don't believe in beginner's luck either, I think it's just a feeling for some people. I think beginners have simpler thinking than old time gamblers. I mean newbies usually play with a more relaxed mentality and the fact that they randomly win makes them feel very lucky. Meanwhile, long-time gamblers often have calculations and strategies, and think that can help them win more. But eventually, things don't turn out as they expected and they start to think their luck has run out.

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I don't believe in beginner's luck either, I think it's just a feeling for some people. I think beginners have simpler thinking than old time gamblers. I mean newbies usually play with a more relaxed mentality and the fact that they randomly win makes them feel very lucky. Meanwhile, long-time gamblers often have calculations and strategies, and think that can help them win more. But eventually, things don't turn out as they expected and they start to think their luck has run out.

This is also true, we cannot take gambling seriously from the very beginning, because at the first stages it is perceived as a game, maybe initially the attitude is somewhat frivolous, at least this was the case with me and this allowed me to place bets more casually. Then, when I decided that I wanted to try to make money on it, then of course everything became much more complicated, I spent more time choosing a bet and it began to acquire features similar to work.

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January 09, 2025, 01:26:57 PM
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A newbie won't play for big money, and even if we stick to the theory that newbies can be encouraged, I'm almost sure that it can be a loyal community, if it exists at all. But I agree with you that creating multiple accounts just to earn money on the initial games is more like stupidity, which is unlikely to justify itself. You still won't be able to make big money on this, so it's better to immediately think about whether you can achieve long-term results in gambling, if not, then perhaps you shouldn't even start, or treat it purely as entertainment.
Long term targets are usually most realistic and workable,  the  problem has only been with gamblers not been able to be patient enough in that regards,  they most probably want to get everything at once, they don't want to even try to see if they can in anyway exercise some patience  ad follow up with building up with small odds they just want a big hit at once, some newbies may not follow in this path initially but with ti.e you see that they get to follow that path due to greed.

And that's create problem along the way, they think that it's easy for them to keep on winning after making some with their first try, those who understand the risk can do things in the sense that they are contented with small winnings, they are capable to end their sessions while those who unable to control and handle this kind of situation they will push for more and aim to win big,

leading them to lose more instead of taking advantage of small wins that they have before but because of that wrong interpretation thinking that luck will continue they loses everything including their deposit.

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January 09, 2025, 02:32:49 PM
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Try to think again more realistically, when the casino provides game that is easy to win by beginner, then after the victory they are addicted to trying to get bigger win with more money and bigger bets, this is where the casino profit is obtained and from the many bets, all of them must have much larger percentage of loss than the amount of winnings given at the beginning of the game.
They use local online casino will be able to find and experience events like this, especially if like to change gambling sites one with another.
It seems that the casino does not know and does not care about its players who are beginners or not, so they will only serve people who come to their casino by registering and depositing money and then gambling, they will not ask and be curious if the person who comes is a beginner or someone who is experienced, but usually beginners who are new to gambling tend to always succeed in getting a win, but not all beginners experience it.
I am sure this does happen but it does not entirely happen to those who are beginners because after all gambling involves luck and luck is not only on the side of beginners, sometimes those who are experienced can also be lucky to get a big win that may be obtained more than once.

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January 09, 2025, 02:49:06 PM
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It’s not a normal thing to become lucky when you are newbie.In fact many gamblers lose the first time they try gambling. Newbie gamblers usually just easy to appreciate their profit and take profit easily that’s why they can secure profit and called it beginners luck.

In contrary to old time gambler that doesn’t stop whenever they won already since still want to push their luck to earn more. Their experience makes their profit expectation increase that’s why they always lose.

I don’t believe on beginners luck. It’s just a term which a newbie use since they have little expectation the first time they try so they appreciate any win.

I don't believe in beginner's luck either, I think it's just a feeling for some people. I think beginners have simpler thinking than old time gamblers. I mean newbies usually play with a more relaxed mentality and the fact that they randomly win makes them feel very lucky. Meanwhile, long-time gamblers often have calculations and strategies, and think that can help them win more. But eventually, things don't turn out as they expected and they start to think their luck has run out.
In fact, in the new state of a new gambler, when gambling for the first time, there is no extra thought, they start gambling randomly, and achieve win randomly. This experience can make them feel lucky.
But on the other hand, experienced gamblers often try to play through strategies and calculations, they want to win by any means, which creates a kind of mental stress, and when the result is negative, they start blaming their luck.
This clearly explains how important the main motive or perspective of a gambler's gambling is, if a gambler gambles only with the intention of losing, he will feel lucky with a small random win, which will give him a very good feeling.
But if a gambler thinks too much and gambles only with the intention of winning, he will feel unlucky with a loss, and start gambling emotionally.
So gambling is an uncertain game, no sure result can ever be expected here, so gambling should be enjoyed only as entertainment. And you should gamble with less money than you can afford to lose.

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January 09, 2025, 02:51:36 PM
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What you wrote about how you can pretend to be a beginner led me to a simple conclusion about how to prove that casinos do not play along with beginners in games. If casinos really played along with newcomers, then casinos would go bankrupt due to a massive attack by "newcomers", because people would quickly realize that winnings and new accounts have a relationship.
A casino would not go bankrupt if they play along the beginners because usually it would just be 2-3 rounds anyway that a beginner may win.

Sometimes just one win for the first round would be enough to mess with the beginner's mind. To me, it is all psychological more than the technicality of how the games are set up. You win once and you think you are going to win consecutively so you go again, and again and again. I do not think people would be making new accounts just to win a couple of rounds. 1) It is prohibited to have multiple accounts and you are going to have to find a way to make a new one and 2) Some people would not find it worth it to make a new account just to win a few rounds when they have already established an account in the platform and gets some benefits and bonuses from it.

Am yet to even understand what you guys are saying here because how can a casino identify who is a beginner or it is by those that registered newly on their platform?. However if there is anything as beginners preference by a casino then they are likely to be at the losing end because someone can register as a beginner and stake with large amount knowing that they gonna give him a beginners preference. Even if a casino gives beginners just 2-3 rounds to win, believe me it won't be funny at all, they will lose a lot.

I know that first winnings messes a beginners mind because i use myself as an example. The very first day i tried placing bet in a gambling office, i won instantly which made me still visit the gambling office the next day till i became accustom to gambling and the results i was getting after few wins was not funny anymore. Some people still open multiple accounts just to enjoy some benefits attached to someone who registered new on the casino but when caught, all the accounts can be banned since there is a prohibition in the the terms of service not to register more than one account.

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January 11, 2025, 10:36:10 AM
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~snip~
What you wrote about how you can pretend to be a beginner led me to a simple conclusion about how to prove that casinos do not play along with beginners in games. If casinos really played along with newcomers, then casinos would go bankrupt due to a massive attack by "newcomers", because people would quickly realize that winnings and new accounts have a relationship.
Try to think again more realistically, when the casino provides game that is easy to win by beginner, then after the victory they are addicted to trying to get bigger win with more money and bigger bets, this is where the casino profit is obtained and from the many bets, all of them must have much larger percentage of loss than the amount of winnings given at the beginning of the game.
This still doesn't stop the fact that beginner's luck exists, anything that transpired afterwards is no more about a beginner but a returning gambler. And of course, the house will always win, for this, beginner's luck doesn't make you a consistent winner, you can only win with beginner's luck if you are not a returning gambler. If you gamble today as a beginner and had it gracefully, I tell you, by the time you returned to gamble in the next 3 days, your loss must have been in multiples of your initial winning.

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