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January 10, 2025, 11:55:44 AM
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Quote from: economictimes
Both HMPV and COVID-19 cause respiratory symptoms such as coughing, fever, congestion, and shortness of breath. They also spread through respiratory droplets.

HMPV: Peaks during winter and spring.
COVID-19: Spreads year-round due to evolving variants.
Post-COVID-19 lockdowns, surges in HMPV cases have been observed as populations re-expose themselves to respiratory pathogens.
As the title suggests, China has recently been shocked by the HMPV Virus or the abbreviation for Human Metapneumovirus Virus, where this virus is not much different from diseases that generally attack the respiratory tract such as flu, cough, runny nose, fever, and shortness of breath.

Based on the background of the virus, we may be reminded of Covid 19 which also originated from China. I mean is this another commotion that they are trying to spread to continue to disrupt the world's economic conditions which are just starting to recover. Of course I am a bit skeptical because based on the Corona case, how paralyzed the economy is. The lower middle class is the target, and do you know which sector is the most profitable during Covid 19? hospital medical equipment.

I just want to know your opinion on the HMPV Virus issue, maybe you can share your opinion and also whether in some countries it has become a topic of discussion?

Or is this all just nonsense that China is trying to exaggerate and they themselves will sell their anti-virus.

Your opinion is greatly appreciated


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In the country where I live now, it is still not so prominently discussed by many people because maybe most people are not worried about it. And to be honest, I also don't like it when it is really exaggerated to the point where it can cause more profits for hospital medical equipment which is predominantly masks. And when I read the news a few days ago, I also immediately remembered the Covid19 case that had spread to all corners of the world so that it might have been anticipated immediately by the government if the symptoms and cases were almost similar to Covid19 before.

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January 10, 2025, 02:30:15 PM
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It is not aware that the normalization of clothes like you will indeed make us much safer, after Covid Corona might be many people like you, doing things very clean to avoid viruses out there that endanger our lives and our families.

But unfortunately I do not, when Covid 19 I was not vaccinated and also did not do things that were recommended by the government such as using a mask using a hand sanitizer and so on, after all I am safe until now even though not a few of my neighbors were affected by the virus, so I might be different and more unconcerned with news like propaganda.

You are not the only one who is not getting vaccinated, not wearing a mask, not using hand sanitizer...and not getting covid virus during the pandemic. There are some people like that in my area too, maybe they are healthier than others or luckier because their bodies can fight the covid virus. But that doesn't mean you or they can be lax and non-compliant by not getting vaccinated and not protecting themselves...You may not be infected, but that doesn't mean you can't infect those around you, especially your loved ones.

Not to mention, your resistance can fight the covid virus but there is no guarantee that you will be immune to all other viruses. So don't be subjective and don't let others be affected by your indifference.

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January 10, 2025, 04:25:01 PM
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Again?
Just as the economy was approaching normality, it was immediately hit by the latest issue about the virus people must be furious. After all Covid 19 has left many wounds for all of humanity without exception. Deaths that were not caused by Covid are still included in the list of victims. If you think about it, I myself have never followed the government's recommendations since this pandemic, I have never been vaccinated at all.

Regarding the economy, it will clearly be destroyed again if this new virus continues to surface. China has many ways to spread fear throughout the world because that was its goal from the start.
My advice don't be easily provoked by news like that, if you don't take it seriously then this news will slowly sink by itself because it doesn't get a response.
Again and more again,
I don't know why new virus always come from China will its manipulate to be greatest business in the future after success with Covid 19 how much medicine, vaccine sold by China around to the world. I follow with the new virus variants publishing by China government because my country government Indonesia have announce to public be careful with the HMPV Virus. Actually what ever kinds of virus have goals set by Chine government get more profitable with their business and already preparing what vaccine most effective to fight this virus and possibility distribute all countries around the world.

Due the the HMPV Virus come from China, better for awhile don't travel yet there how to avoid your self with that virus and become first people in your country become the victim of the HMPV Virus.
New conspiracies and theories are started to come as we have some new about HMPV specially while we are having every time new big threat for the world from China this creates more chaos about economy and many other things recently I also read and watch few things even main stream media is hiding many things about this but still thanks to trade war or healthy environment we are having updates about things like these from many sources those want to heat things at the top level and want to have China stays under pressure, but they are not doing anything about their aggressive approach.

Today few China media reports were clearly saying it is not big threat as flu is more troubling than this new HMPV as they are trying to divide opinion, but these tactics are not going to work because still we need to be stayed secure from this with not trying to visit this place where things are troubling keep cautious and also keep alarm peoples those are near to you because this is the best way for living securely.

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January 10, 2025, 07:02:17 PM
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Now it will be very interesting to observe who will be the first to “invent an effective vaccine” against the “unexpectedly” appeared “new” virus ?
And again it will be interesting to observe the area of spread of this virus.


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January 10, 2025, 07:47:46 PM
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Yeah, it's just too much of a coincidence. One week before Trump enters office, having threatened China with high tariffs, and another deadly virus is reported in China? What is this? The sequel movie of his previous presidency?

Please tell me we're not going to experience another pandemic with lockdown etc., because of this...

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January 10, 2025, 08:33:00 PM
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Yeah, it's just too much of a coincidence. One week before Trump enters office, having threatened China with high tariffs, and another deadly virus is reported in China? What is this? The sequel movie of his previous presidency?

Please tell me we're not going to experience another pandemic with lockdown etc., because of this...
Why are you worried?

There's a chance they could print yet another 10 trillion $$$ with a new lockdown. Grin
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There's a chance they could print yet another 10 trillion $$$ with a new lockdown. Grin
It might benefit bitcoin holders, but I was hoping we could return, as a world, back to a sense of normalcy, leaving pandemics, lockdowns and woke-agendas behind. You know, as the world used to be. What can I say? "The beatings will continue until morale improves."

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January 11, 2025, 09:54:34 AM
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There's a chance they could print yet another 10 trillion $$$ with a new lockdown. Grin
It might benefit bitcoin holders, but I was hoping we could return, as a world, back to a sense of normalcy, leaving pandemics, lockdowns and woke-agendas behind. You know, as the world used to be. What can I say? "The beatings will continue until morale improves."
Agenda 2030 (The Great Reset) needs to continue by all means necessary and normalcy doesn't help them to achieve their goals... Wink

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Quote from: economictimes
Both HMPV and COVID-19 cause respiratory symptoms such as coughing, fever, congestion, and shortness of breath. They also spread through respiratory droplets.

HMPV: Peaks during winter and spring.
COVID-19: Spreads year-round due to evolving variants.
Post-COVID-19 lockdowns, surges in HMPV cases have been observed as populations re-expose themselves to respiratory pathogens.
As the title suggests, China has recently been shocked by the HMPV Virus or the abbreviation for Human Metapneumovirus Virus, where this virus is not much different from diseases that generally attack the respiratory tract such as flu, cough, runny nose, fever, and shortness of breath.

Based on the background of the virus, we may be reminded of Covid 19 which also originated from China. I mean is this another commotion that they are trying to spread to continue to disrupt the world's economic conditions which are just starting to recover. Of course I am a bit skeptical because based on the Corona case, how paralyzed the economy is. The lower middle class is the target, and do you know which sector is the most profitable during Covid 19? hospital medical equipment.

I just want to know your opinion on the HMPV Virus issue, maybe you can share your opinion and also whether in some countries it has become a topic of discussion?

Or is this all just nonsense that China is trying to exaggerate and they themselves will sell their anti-virus.

Your opinion is greatly appreciated


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I don't want to sound ignorant but I believe that these viruses are either fake, made-up thing or they are not as dangerous as governments promote them. I don't know what was happening in other countries but in my country people didn't get vaccinated because they are anti-vaxers, which isn't a good thing and is caused by the lack of education but here is the interesting part, there were moderately high covid cases when covid was active but once the war started between Russia and Ukraine, Covid somehow disappeared. Those who were left at home and didn't go to hospitals survived better than those who moved in hospital. In my country, hospitals lack good doctors because if someone is good, they usually immigrate abroad and the quality of education is low here, doctors try to make money and don't care much about the health of people. If someone dies, it's not a tragic for them. Your chance of surviving is higher if you stay at home than in the hospital.
It's interesting, how did Covid disappear so quickly? Why aren't there new strains? Okay, in western countries people got vaccinated and that's how they explain that Covid disappeared but what about countries like mine where people didn't protect a single restriction? A herd immunity? I don't believe that's the case because here didn't die many people and as they promoted, the Covid is very dangerous.

I believe that HMPV virus is another either fake or real virus that aims to weaken the economy of many countries or pharmaceutical businesses are gaining a huge portion of our money with this step.

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It's interesting, how did Covid disappear so quickly? Why aren't there new strains? Okay, in western countries people got vaccinated and that's how they explain that Covid disappeared but what about countries like mine where people didn't protect a single restriction? A herd immunity? I don't believe that's the case because here didn't die many people and as they promoted, the Covid is very dangerous.
Covid has not disappeared, they just stopped reporting new cases and new strains all over the mainstream media. Otherwise it still exists and new cases are still being recorded. There are more cases in countries with poor healthcare system. If you search long enough you'll find some statistics as well like this one from UK government reporting between 800 to 3000 cases per week!
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-2024-to-2025-season/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-report-9-january-week-2


The only thing that's changed is that COVID19 is now a known virus so it is not as scary as it was back in 2020. We know its symptoms, we have testing kits for it to detect it easily and quickly, we know the treatments, and so on.

BTW I don't think vaccines did much if anything at all. Specially the American ones, most of which were either scam, contaminated and had severe side effects.

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Just as some countries benefited from the availability of vaccines for Corona, the HMPV virus infection will benefit all countries that can find an antidote or vaccine. Just as people have been locked down in Corona, there may not be such a lockdown in HMPV virus. But Bitcoin investors will benefit from the lockdown because those who could not invest will definitely be able to invest if the Bitcoin market suddenly falls due to this virus. And those who have invested will definitely get a lot of profit if the market increases due to this virus infection.
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BTW I don't think vaccines did much if anything at all. Specially the American ones, most of which were either scam, contaminated and had severe side effects.
I got vaccinated during the pandemic too, so I hope there are no side effects - man, you really scared me there!

But you’re right, there are still COVID cases, but they’re much more manageable now. So I guess, with vaccines and medicines available, people aren’t as worried anymore. Looking back, it seems like the initial panic caused a lot of chaos, but the actual number of deaths might not have been as high as the fear made it seem.

now, I don’t think there’s a virus that can scare us the same way, becauase with advanced technology, like quantum computing, research can move faster, and I’ve heard it’s already being used to accelerate discoveries. Hopefully, we’re better prepared for any future health crises.

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January 12, 2025, 03:38:18 AM
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second outbreak is the last thing we want in this difficult economy, hoping this won't be as back as COVID-19 but at least COVID-19 taught us to move fast when there's virus like this.


BTW I don't think vaccines did much if anything at all. Specially the American ones, most of which were either scam, contaminated and had severe side effects.

I got vaccinated during the pandemic too, so I hope there are no side effects - man, you really scared me there!

there are so many conspiracy out there especially in twitter that describes side effects, honestly man, as someone who already got vaccinated as well, these conspiracy feels like fear mongering, but knowing that internet is full of misinformation anyway, i just can't really care about it. right now i'm fine as I was before vaccinated so I guess there's no side effect.

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BTW I don't think vaccines did much if anything at all. Specially the American ones, most of which were either scam, contaminated and had severe side effects.

I got vaccinated during the pandemic too, so I hope there are no side effects - man, you really scared me there!

there are so many conspiracy out there especially in twitter that describes side effects, honestly man, as someone who already got vaccinated as well, these conspiracy feels like fear mongering, but knowing that internet is full of misinformation anyway, i just can't really care about it. right now i'm fine as I was before vaccinated so I guess there's no side effect.

Nobody really knows if there are side effects or not, maybe except for the ones who made it.
Actually, I was scared at first, I’m not gonna lie, that’s why I didn’t rush to get vaccinated. Eventually, though I was convinced, especially when it became clear you couldn’t go to public places without it. It honestly felt like being trapped at home forever, so I just decided to go for it.

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I don't want to sound ignorant but I believe that these viruses are either fake, made-up thing or they are not as dangerous as governments promote them. I don't know what was happening in other countries but in my country people didn't get vaccinated because they are anti-vaxers, which isn't a good thing and is caused by the lack of education but here is the interesting part, there were moderately high covid cases when covid was active but once the war started between Russia and Ukraine, Covid somehow disappeared. Those who were left at home and didn't go to hospitals survived better than those who moved in hospital. In my country, hospitals lack good doctors because if someone is good, they usually immigrate abroad and the quality of education is low here, doctors try to make money and don't care much about the health of people. If someone dies, it's not a tragic for them. Your chance of surviving is higher if you stay at home than in the hospital.
It's interesting, how did Covid disappear so quickly? Why aren't there new strains? Okay, in western countries people got vaccinated and that's how they explain that Covid disappeared but what about countries like mine where people didn't protect a single restriction? A herd immunity? I don't believe that's the case because here didn't die many people and as they promoted, the Covid is very dangerous.

I believe that HMPV virus is another either fake or real virus that aims to weaken the economy of many countries or pharmaceutical businesses are gaining a huge portion of our money with this step.


1. from this “fake virus” (COVID19), out of 6 people in the hospital room where I was lying in 2020, 2 died within 3 days with the same symptoms. Another 1 suffered severe lung damage. In my country, tens of thousands of people died in a fairly short period of time, far exceeding the annual average.
2. The virus mutates and there are several variations. Thanks to vaccination, however, it is no longer so severely tolerated, plus the population has developed a “new” immunity
3. The new virus, hopefully, will not be so dangerous, but still the fact is the fact - it was “launched to the masses”, and “oh coincidence!!!”, for some reason again from China.... 


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I've read some say that HMPV isn't a new virus and has been there many years ago. It's crazy that this is on all timing, I remember when covid-19 was at height, there was also another virus that was reported trying to spread somewhere but then it eventually lost the attention of the media.

Here's a quote from the "health experts".


"Health experts have clarified that the HMPV is not a new virus; it was first identified in 2001 and it has been circulating in the entire world for many years," Indian Health Minister J. P. Nadda said Monday. "The health systems and surveillance networks of the country are vigilant and there is no reason to worry."

Every year in China, epidemics like this happen during the winter, and now someone wants to make a story about a virus that has been known for over 20 years and to which many people already have natural immunity. If a reasonable person looks back and takes a realistic look at the situation surrounding covid-19, he can conclude that this "disease" was exaggerated to incredible proportions with the obvious aim of testing how people will react if they start being treated like animals in a cage.

Covid has reportedly killed around 7 million people, but what they won't say is that the majority were mostly over 60 and that they didn't actually die from the virus, but with the virus. What I want to say is that this figure includes everyone who was found to be infected with the virus, even if the real cause of death was something completely different.

Unfortunately, the world will have to face something much more dangerous in the near future - and that threatens trade wars and claims over the territories of other countries.

Well, that's news to me. We thought it was something new caused/spread by/from Bat or something. The panic caused more damage than the virus itself. Furthermore, people are now faced with a new kind of problem that came with the vaccination. I don't know if it's rumor or not. But many people are claiming they are facing several skin conditions like rash, itching, allergies, or sores after taking the vaccines and all (and it doesn't go away). Even my own father, who never had any sort of allergy before, is now having an allergic reaction, constantly complaining every day. Some are claiming that those who took the full dose of the vaccines will have many health issues in the future, long term side effects. So far I have never faced anything because I never took all the doses our government provided us with! But the general mass around me, saying they regret taking the vaccines, that they shouldn't have!

Forgot the sources https://www.aad.org/news/skin-reactions-to-covid



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3. The new virus, hopefully, will not be so dangerous, but still the fact is the fact - it was “launched to the masses”, and “oh coincidence!!!”, for some reason again from China....  

Opps, here we go again! COVID 2.0: Remastered Smiley

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3. The new virus, hopefully, will not be so dangerous, but still the fact is the fact - it was “launched to the masses”, and “oh coincidence!!!”, for some reason again from China....  

Opps, here we go again! COVID 2.0: Remastered Smiley


Yes, this kind of “project relaunch” probably didn't achieve the goals of the first version of the project. We can assume (this is more of a conspiracy theory, and I really want to be wrong that what I said below is my delusion Smiley) ), but we can assume that the goal was to create an illusion of “independently appeared deadly virus”, the vaccine for which will be “accidentally” only in China.... The consequences can only be guessed. And the consequences for the whole world....


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there are so many conspiracy out there especially in twitter that describes side effects, honestly man, as someone who already got vaccinated as well, these conspiracy feels like fear mongering, but knowing that internet is full of misinformation anyway, i just can't really care about it. right now i'm fine as I was before vaccinated so I guess there's no side effect.

That's not a conspiracy theory. There have been many reports of side effects or complications after a period of vaccination, but it is worth noting that these complications do not appear in everyone, so many people do not believe it and think that this is just a conspiracy theory. In addition, according to the report, complications appear sooner or later, some people will have complications, some will not, depending on each person's constitution. You are fine and have had no complications so far, but that does not guarantee that you will be fine in the future, so don't be complacent.

As far as I know, vaccine development takes a long time from research, clinical trials to the final product...A full process would require four or five phases, but because the pandemic spread so quickly, most studies have been cut short by one or two phases. Previously, experts also warned that hastily developing a vaccine is very dangerous and causes many consequences, but pandemic prevention is more important and that is why the vaccine was hastily licensed.


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It's interesting, how did Covid disappear so quickly? Why aren't there new strains? Okay, in western countries people got vaccinated and that's how they explain that Covid disappeared but what about countries like mine where people didn't protect a single restriction? A herd immunity? I don't believe that's the case because here didn't die many people and as they promoted, the Covid is very dangerous.
Covid has not disappeared, they just stopped reporting new cases and new strains all over the mainstream media. Otherwise it still exists and new cases are still being recorded. There are more cases in countries with poor healthcare system. If you search long enough you'll find some statistics as well like this one from UK government reporting between 800 to 3000 cases per week!
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-2024-to-2025-season/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-report-9-january-week-2


The only thing that's changed is that COVID19 is now a known virus so it is not as scary as it was back in 2020. We know its symptoms, we have testing kits for it to detect it easily and quickly, we know the treatments, and so on.

BTW I don't think vaccines did much if anything at all. Specially the American ones, most of which were either scam, contaminated and had severe side effects.
I don't know what's happening in the UK but in my country, there are no Covid cases anymore. Tourists come and go, millions of tourists visit a tiny country every year but there is no Covid anymore, isn't that strange? I haven't heard someone getting Covid since 2022 and that's strange to my mind. I believe that they were calling Covid to any flu like cases because it's clear that their testing kits weren't correct. Also, a virus that spreads and mutates that easily, can't disappear quickly. I believe that it's media and panic that make people afraid and cause massive bad things.
I got vaccinated because my job forced me to get it. Nothing changed in my life, I didn't get Covid before, and I didn't get Covid afterwards but I had a very severe headache for 2 days after each vaccine shot, I felt like my head was about to squeeze.

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I don't want to sound ignorant but I believe that these viruses are either fake, made-up thing or they are not as dangerous as governments promote them. I don't know what was happening in other countries but in my country people didn't get vaccinated because they are anti-vaxers, which isn't a good thing and is caused by the lack of education but here is the interesting part, there were moderately high covid cases when covid was active but once the war started between Russia and Ukraine, Covid somehow disappeared. Those who were left at home and didn't go to hospitals survived better than those who moved in hospital. In my country, hospitals lack good doctors because if someone is good, they usually immigrate abroad and the quality of education is low here, doctors try to make money and don't care much about the health of people. If someone dies, it's not a tragic for them. Your chance of surviving is higher if you stay at home than in the hospital.
It's interesting, how did Covid disappear so quickly? Why aren't there new strains? Okay, in western countries people got vaccinated and that's how they explain that Covid disappeared but what about countries like mine where people didn't protect a single restriction? A herd immunity? I don't believe that's the case because here didn't die many people and as they promoted, the Covid is very dangerous.

I believe that HMPV virus is another either fake or real virus that aims to weaken the economy of many countries or pharmaceutical businesses are gaining a huge portion of our money with this step.


1. from this “fake virus” (COVID19), out of 6 people in the hospital room where I was lying in 2020, 2 died within 3 days with the same symptoms. Another 1 suffered severe lung damage. In my country, tens of thousands of people died in a fairly short period of time, far exceeding the annual average.
2. The virus mutates and there are several variations. Thanks to vaccination, however, it is no longer so severely tolerated, plus the population has developed a “new” immunity
3. The new virus, hopefully, will not be so dangerous, but still the fact is the fact - it was “launched to the masses”, and “oh coincidence!!!”, for some reason again from China.... 
I'm talking from my reality, I don't know what was the situation in other countries.
Hospitals in my country are bad, if you aren't rich and don't have doctor relatives, you won't get good treatment and doctors are very good at lying. If you don't have lung problems, they'll make you sleep in a cold place where you'll get lung problems.
How will you explain this to me? People didn't get vaccinated in my country but very few people died. How did the covid disappear after Russia-Ukraine war? Media was talking a lot about Covid and new strains every day but now, since 2022, they don't talk about it. I'll repeat again that only a few people got vaccinated and a few people died from Covid compared to other countries. Here people also weren't protecting distance and other regulations, yet, we had one of the lowest covid numbers. Isn't this strange?
I also know from a doctor, who is my relative and works in a local clinic that if you died with any problem like Stroke, Heart attack, etc and you had a covid during that time, they would write Covid as the reason for death.

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I got vaccinated during the pandemic too, so I hope there are no side effects - man, you really scared me there!
I'm assuming that is at least a year ago when you got the vaccine, in which case the chances of you experiencing any of the side effects is negligible. So there is nothing to worry about.

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