Trump And his executive's orders a threat to world peace

[Akbarkoe]

As far as i know Biden has been sending this bomb since last year, and what's the difference? Israeli is just requesting the same bomb like what they did when Biden was there.

I don't even think this decision is threatening world's peace. In fact, nothing happens to the world. The war keep continue, and that's it.

As long as it was only at the middle east, and i see nothing to feel worry about that.

You may see geopolitical friction with what Ukraine and Russia are doing, while we know that Ukraine is getting continuous help from the US which is Ukraine's backup force to fight back, this is indirectly if we read that Ukraine is a form of US war with Russia, it's just that the intermediary Ukraine is the place of war, if Russia is forced to lose in this conflict they are likely to be angry and accuse the US of being behind all Ukrainian victories and that could threaten a prolonged conflict by involving the US as a ukrainian supporting party, and could trigger a wider war.

But in the current reasoning, seeing the US has many opponents, especially China and other countries that have not supported the US because the US has double standards, in addition to openly competing with Putin, maybe Trump's decision-making mistakes can cause a bigger spark. IMO

you have to realize that a small fire can get bigger if left unattended for a long time.

[DrBeer]

There were a lot of good, or even good ideas in Trump's campaign rhetoric - like “bringing order” to terrorist countries like North Korea, Iran, and other rogue nations. These were good ideas, as the world is marvelously and seriously suffering from terrorism, religious fanatics, and other regimes unwilling to live in a civilized manner and aiming to return the world to the Stone Age.
As it turned out, they were just empty sounds, just to gain an advantage with the voters. Now Trump is “bending over” to terrorist countries. I will not be surprised if he will soon go to Iran or North Korea, and this is really dangerous for the whole world....

[EFS]

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There is no such thing as a "terrorist country". North Korea and Iran are countries with authoritarian regimes. It's quite clear that Trump also wants to establish an authoritarian regime in the US. Trump won't bring peace to the world. On the contrary, he's just another evil feeding off the rise of fascism worldwide.
People who expect peace in the Middle East are very naive. The pauses are merely preparations for new wars, actually the war never truly ends.

[pooya87]

Iran are countries with authoritarian regimes.

Authoritarian? LOL

The only reason why US regime has branded Iran like that is because all the democratically elected governments of Iran has fought against the US backed ISIS and al-Qaeda terrorist organizations and of course they have always been fighting against the biggest terrorist organization in West Asia named Israel that has been carrying out a genocide every day in Palestine for decades.

This last one is the reason why Zionists in this forum like the one you quoted use that term about Iran as well. Because Iran is the only country that has been fighting the Zionist terrorist organization for 47 years straight. They think such rhetoric can change the fate of the terrorist organization they're sympathetic about

People who expect peace in the Middle East are very naive. The pauses are merely preparations for new wars, actually the war never truly ends.

Well it will end when the US regime and all its proxies are eliminated from the region. Otherwise as long as they are allowed to exist in West Asia (eg. their large number of bases in real authoritarian regimes like Saudi usurped Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Jordan, Turkey, etc.) and they use it as supporting bases for their proxies including al-Qaeda and all its branches this region will not see peace.

[EFS]

Authoritarian? LOL

The only reason why US regime has branded Iran like that is because all the democratically elected governments of Iran has fought against the US backed ISIS and al-Qaeda terrorist organizations and of course they have always been fighting against the biggest terrorist organization in West Asia named Israel that has been carrying out a genocide every day in Palestine for decades.

This last one is the reason why Zionists in this forum like the one you quoted use that term about Iran as well. Because Iran is the only country that has been fighting the Zionist terrorist organization for 47 years straight. They think such rhetoric can change the fate of the terrorist organization they're sympathetic about


Well it will end when the US regime and all its proxies are eliminated from the region. Otherwise as long as they are allowed to exist in West Asia (eg. their large number of bases in real authoritarian regimes like Saudi usurped Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Jordan, Turkey, etc.) and they use it as supporting bases for their proxies including al-Qaeda and all its branches this region will not see peace.

There is no free speech in Iran. There is Sharia law and the death penalty. In Iran you can be executed simply for expressing your opinion. This is the exact definition of an authoritarian regime. If I lived in Iran, I would've already been killed for defending the human values I stand for.
The existence of elections doesn't necessarily mean a country is governed by democracy. People from Iran are running away to Türkiye and other countries because of the authoritarian regime. In Türkiye, we've been fighting for years to prevent our country from becoming like Iran. We also have an authoritarian regime now. They replaced the republic system with a presidential system and we've been experiencing its consequences since 2017.

Iran is fighting against U.S. backed terrorist groups such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Türkiye is also fighting against ISIS, PKK and similar terrorist organizations for years. As long as there is oil and precious mines in the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean and as long as Israel's "Promised Land" concept exists, wars won't end. Even if someone else had come to power instead of Trump, these conflicts wouldn't have stopped. However, having someone like Trump who is pro-Israel and solely focused on money, has become the POTUS has only escalated the situation further.

[blomen]

trump and world peace? i don't think that man wants world peace in the slightest. trump is the kind of person who will make things tense and turn people against each other even in the most normal environment. it's part of his nature to have completely opposite opinions on any issue and his sudden actions.

probably when the conflict between israel and philistine is over these bombs will help him to make a lot of money from the middle east and exploit its resources.

this has nothing to do with world peace or anything else, trump is just trying to make his share of the disaster.

[Raflesia]

trump and world peace? i don't think that man wants world peace in the slightest. trump is the kind of person who will make things tense and turn people against each other even in the most normal environment. it's part of his nature to have completely opposite opinions on any issue and his sudden actions.

What I can see for now from my eyes and thoughts that are probably the thoughts of ordinary people who are stupid about Trump is that he is only trying to create his own version of the ideal concept without caring about the fate of other people and even other countries because the most important thing for him is that he and the country he leads have profits.

Peace by destroying everything that exists now? That is ridiculous because it is not peace but an attempt to close many mouths that do feel the misery that is indeed a victim of what Trump wants to achieve.
This will sound ridiculous to those who agree with Trump's plan but for me, it is not a peace but an attempt to cover it up under the pretext of terrorism or whatever it is that ultimately they want power over the land in the Middle East.

[DrBeer]

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There is no such thing as a "terrorist country". North Korea and Iran are countries with authoritarian regimes. It's quite clear that Trump also wants to establish an authoritarian regime in the US. Trump won't bring peace to the world. On the contrary, he's just another evil feeding off the rise of fascism worldwide.
People who expect peace in the Middle East are very naive. The pauses are merely preparations for new wars, actually the war never truly ends.

This is just a play on words, nothing more. Both regimes support and promote international terrorism, both regimes have created anti-human systems, where the goal is not development but degradation and subjugation, and a threat to others. The value of human life is zero there. What is the difference between the bloody totalitarianism of North Korea and the religious fanatics of Iran?  Plus they both sponsor and support international terrorism directly - from supplying arms to manpower, to absolutely real terrorists, to terrorize and destroy peaceful population of a peaceful country. They differ only in name, with the same essence ...

And yes, I agree - what Trump is doing is starting to look like totalitarianism too. True, the American people have rights and laws, which I hope will not allow to create another square of inadequacy out of the USA.

[pooya87]

There is no free speech in Iran.

There is no free speech anywhere, specially in the West. A certain degree of it can be found in any country but in comparison there is more free speech in Iran than there is in for example United States.

There is Sharia law and the death penalty.

I don't know what you have in mind when you say "Sharia law" but Iran as a religious country with religious people, has had its constitution affected by its people's ideology if that's what you mean! And its legislative branch (parliament) that consists of people's representatives who are chosen by them, has fixed seats for all religion representatives even the minorities (Armenians, Jews, Assyrians, Zoroastrians).

The constitution itself is also put to the vote (the only constitution in the whole world that was voted on by the people) in a referendum and 99.5% of the votes approved it (you show me one of those "not a dictatorships" that have had their constitutions voted on by the people, not something some assholes wrote and forced people to follow like the US constitution).

As for death sentence, like most of the world Iran also has capital punishment. I don't see the relevance of it here!

In Iran you can be executed simply for expressing your opinion. This is the exact definition of an authoritarian regime. If I lived in Iran, I would've already been killed for defending the human values I stand for.

That bold part says it all. You need better resources for your research about Iran if you want to know about this ancient civilization. The sources you've had access to so far have clearly given you garbage!
It's like going to a North Korean website owned by Un to read about US and then think you know US

The existence of elections doesn't necessarily mean a country is governed by democracy. People from Iran are running away to Türkiye and other countries because of the authoritarian regime. In Türkiye, we've been fighting for years to prevent our country from becoming like Iran. We also have an authoritarian regime now. They replaced the republic system with a presidential system and we've been experiencing its consequences since 2017.

Iranians are migrating because of bad economy which is partly due to the US regime's economic terrorism (includes sanctions) against Iran. One of the ways they can receive asylum in Europe and US is if they tell them it is for political reasons and it works for NATO propaganda so many people use that excuse!

Turkiye was one of their destinations only because it's been advertised a lot inside Iran as a "better country with better economy" and is culturally close to Iran. Something all those immigrants realize very quickly when they see Turkish economy (with practically no sanctions) is even worse than Iranian economy and Lira is much weaker than Iranian Rial to the point that the removal of 6 zeros from Lira couldn't stop its tanking.

Not to mention that they also realize what real authoritarianism looks like when they see one man having taken supreme power for over a decade and doesn't want to let go. As he also keeps eliminating his opponents (like the recent "elimination" of mayor of Istanbul). The millions of Turkish people protesting in the streets is not going to change that either. It may only expand the size of the Cemetery of Traitors which the Turkish regime is still filling with Erdogan's oppositions in the name of coup!

Iran is fighting against U.S. backed terrorist groups such as ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Türkiye is also fighting against ISIS, PKK and similar terrorist organizations for years. As long as there is oil and precious mines in the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean and as long as Israel's "Promised Land" concept exists, wars won't end. Even if someone else had come to power instead of Trump, these conflicts wouldn't have stopped. However, having someone like Trump who is pro-Israel and solely focused on money, has become the POTUS has only escalated the situation further.

I only half agree because the conflict in West Asia is not lasting only because there are resources here and a terrorist organization named Israel.

It is going to last a long time because of the Western backed/installed dictators who execute US regime's commands to keep the region in tension. From al-Saud usurpers of Arabia and Zionist al-Sisi of Egypt and Zionist Abdullah bin Hashemi of Jordan and Erdogan of Turkey who not only supported ISIS but his recent attack on Syria where he helped re-establish the rule of al-Qaeda/ISIS was the biggest backstabbing in the history of region's backstabbers! https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=5521156.0

What Erdogan did alone in Syria with his al-Qaeda commander Golani and the genocide of Kurds in the name of terrorist organization MIT created (PKK) is going to keep the region in chaos for years.

[EFS]

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I'm not an expert on Iran and this thread isn't entirely about Iran either but I do know how it's governed. The girls I know who fled from Iran and people from all economic backgrounds who are oppressed for being against the regime say the exact opposite of what you claimed. No country is good if you live in fear of death and can't express yourself freely. Maybe some of what you said was true for pre-1979 Iran but in its current state, Iran is one of the most unlivable countries in the world.

In Türkiye during the referendum held by coup leader Kenan Evren, 91% voted "Yes" to a coup constitution. You can hold any referendum you want but an approval rate over 90% doesn't prove that the election was fair or that the decision made was the right one.
Here, if someone says they don't believe in any religion, nothing will happen to them legally. But in Iran, they would face serious trouble. They say that 99% of Türkiye’s population is Muslim, but this is only on paper. Every newborn Turkish child is automatically registered as Muslim and most people never even consider changing this due to social pressure. I'm pretty sure it's even worse in Iran as well. In an environment where you could be killed just for saying you don't believe in God, who do you think would dare to speak out? A state being governed by religion is one of the worst things that can happen to a nation. Thankfully, we have secularism in our country; despite the increasingly authoritarian political Islamist regime, the gains of the Republican revolution still protect us to some extent. Right now, we are fighting against the government to save the Republic and defend our rights.

In contrast to our fight against autocracy and our efforts to save the Republic, it's quite ironic that the U.S. has elected someone increasingly authoritarian and lawless. Trump doesn't speak out for someone like İmamoğlu but calls Erdoğan a good leader. On the other hand, he supports a racist criminal like Le Pen. A handful of powerful people trying to drag the whole world into fascism are doing everything against the well-being of the people. Every individual around the world needs to learn not to trust racists anymore.
 
Trump won the election by promising to end wars globally but he's doing exactly the opposite. He's stirring up even more conflict around the world. On one side, he includes Ukraine and the Middle East in his negotiations with Russia and on the other, he engages in trade wars with China and EU. Not just the Middle East but the whole world will suffer the consequences. Trump's return was a disaster and the cost of American voters' mistake will be paid by the entire world unfortunately.

[Haunebu]

The only dumdums who still support Trump now are far right MAGA turds whose brains are completely missing and can't think properly on their own. Their stupidity gave him the power to wreck the global economy in more ways than one.

I just really hope that the global economy doesn't go back to how it was during COVID times. Meanwhile, orange man and Musk are raking in billions and laughing their way to the banks.

[pooya87]

Here, if someone says they don't believe in any religion, nothing will happen to them legally. But in Iran, they would face serious trouble.

No you won't. There are variety of religions being practiced in Iran. The only things that are banned are cults, and for good reasons too.

In an environment where you could be killed just for saying you don't believe in God, who do you think would dare to speak out?

I don't know who told you this but that's not a real thing. Of course as a religious country the government will prevent anybody from advertising atheism but nobody can prosecute you for saying you don't believe in god!

Again you might be confusing cults with beliefs. Specially cuts that are projects of foreign services like CIA or Mossad which should be crushed if you ask me. Like the the Wahhabism radicalism spread by US creating ISIS terrorist cells or the Bahaism spready by Israel creating terrorist sleeper cells must be met with an iron fist.
Iran is in a cold war with NATO after all, crushing these terrorist cells is the definition of human rights and not doing it would be a violation of it.

Trump doesn't speak out for someone like İmamoğlu but calls Erdoğan a good leader.

US regime was once calling Saddam a good leader too when he was obeying Washington's orders. Then almost overnight the term they used changed into a "dictator" and then they invaded Iraq.

For the time being they need Erdogan who has been in power far too long and has been obeying orders coming down from Washington. He also has a better control over the internationally recognized terrorist al-Golani and his terrorist group that are occupying Damascus and US regime needs them to continue to destabilize Syria and the region for longer so that they can solidify their own position as occupiers in Syria, Iraq and elsewhere.

The moment he loses that utility, the language will change too.

[Juicyhome]

trump and world peace? i don't think that man wants world peace in the slightest. trump is the kind of person who will make things tense and turn people against each other even in the most normal environment. it's part of his nature to have completely opposite opinions on any issue and his sudden actions.

probably when the conflict between israel and philistine is over these bombs will help him to make a lot of money from the middle east and exploit its resources.

this has nothing to do with world peace or anything else, trump is just trying to make his share of the disaster.

was there world peace before Trump? I think like when people see Trump as a threat towards world peace, Trump is radical in behaviour and his a weathy president so people tend to see him a arrogant. Before Trump there was no peace and there would be no peace and harmony in the world. Because every presidents are struggling to protect and strong economy but if Trump make a policy that will strengthen US everyone will call anti peace policy.

[virasog]

The only dumdums who still support Trump now are far right MAGA turds whose brains are completely missing and can't think properly on their own. Their stupidity gave him the power to wreck the global economy in more ways than one.

I just really hope that the global economy doesn't go back to how it was during COVID times. Meanwhile, orange man and Musk are raking in billions and laughing their way to the banks.

If we see the time when last time he was president, he did the same. Made polices that dump the wall street in his initial few months but later so much money was injected in the system that stocks and crypto pumped like never before. I still think the same scenario will play again and the pain part will be over very shortly, maybe in a couple of months.

I think there will be excessive money printing as it happened in times of Covid, but this time that money needs to be injected into the economy. He cannot just give stimulus checks to everyone as he did when the world was closed at the time of the pandemic.

[blomen]

trump and world peace? i don't think that man wants world peace in the slightest. trump is the kind of person who will make things tense and turn people against each other even in the most normal environment. it's part of his nature to have completely opposite opinions on any issue and his sudden actions.

probably when the conflict between israel and philistine is over these bombs will help him to make a lot of money from the middle east and exploit its resources.

this has nothing to do with world peace or anything else, trump is just trying to make his share of the disaster.

was there world peace before Trump? I think like when people see Trump as a threat towards world peace, Trump is radical in behaviour and his a weathy president so people tend to see him a arrogant. Before Trump there was no peace and there would be no peace and harmony in the world. Because every presidents are struggling to protect and strong economy but if Trump make a policy that will strengthen US everyone will call anti peace policy.

of course there was no world peace before trump and there never will be, but i think trump is just adding fuel to the fire. we know he is an aggressive person and there could have been presidents who would have done more than him in terms of trying to bring peace (at least he can do that). it would have been better even if everything stayed the same, how long has he been in office, he immediately started pitting countries against each other. i don't think america needs this. america can still be a very powerful country without these moves.

[Agbe]

On a serious note wars are threat to life and at such there should be limits to it other than fueling it to the extreme, I can't really say much about Trump decisions authorizing such orders inorder to increase and worsen the situations. But of a truth the allies of Israel have been an hindrance to them and I think he's doing what's right in making sure he brings victory to them even if it means taking down the Palestine, but all of this ain't helping more especially embracing peace should be the approach but if the Palestine would refuse to surrender then I don't think I have anything to question about his actions towards it.

Trump did little to nothing with this weapon that was sent to Israel; he might have a hidden agenda, but on a clear note, what was done was to complete a deal, which Biden did during his tenure before leaving office. Payment and agreement for those weapons have already been reached; why he delayed them is best known to him, so it could be said that it was just for Trump to clear that out from their store and send it to those who already made payment for them.

I get your point but if trump is actually concerned and serious about making genuine peace in the middle east why Will he release such weapons to Israel Even if he is not the one that signed the agreement concerning the deal that led to Israel purchasing the guns he will have stand against the release of the guns by stopping Israel from getting delivery of the guns so am not in support of what trump did in this situation

That's true I think that trump is not concerned about real peace in the middle east in his first term as president he declared Jerusalem the sole capital of Israel which was against the status quo because Jerusalem was used as a two state capital for both Israel and the Palestinians state so and it caused a lot of tensions that time and now he is releasing these kind of powerful weapons, it's shows that trump is biased in this war because of he is really concerned about peace he will stay neutral in this war and should not have released these weapons

[harapan]

War doesn't make sense. It just about killing and killing of people - poor people. That are the ultimate victims of war not the politicians or the terrorists they are fighting against.

When asked why he released the powerful bombs, Trump responded, "because they bought them."

They bought them and that's why they released them but what about the poor people who are defenseless, the children who would become orphans on both sides, the wives whom would lose their husbands and the husbands whom would lose wives and children? It doesn't matter right? Sad. I wish there was a separate battle ground where only the fighting parties meet out of the poor people from both ends. I am not taking sides , as I stand with humanity and against evil.

War are not meant to happen but they happen cause we met them and it has pose alot of fears and destruction in the society, there are alot ways to remedy disagreement and instead of leading to a chaotic situations that at the end the poor masses will be the one suffering for it. When undergoing war we should be concern about the welfare of the poor, the helpless cause in most cases they are the victims. Trump irresistible orders to allocating ammunitions to support war will only cause more damage and destruction, he should think we'll about his actions before executing them.

[SatoPrincess]

I think that trump is not concerned about real peace in the middle east in his first term as president he declared Jerusalem the sole capital of Israel which was against the status quo because Jerusalem was used as a two state capital for both Israel and the Palestinians state so and it caused a lot of tensions that time and now he is releasing these kind of powerful weapons, it's shows that trump is biased in this war because of he is really concerned about peace he will stay neutral in this war and should not have released these weapons

I don’t follow world politics that much and I hate reading about wars so I can’t say for sure what Trump’s intention fot the Middle East is but what I do know is that Trump will do anything that will benefit and profit America. That is his only interest.

[STT]

Trump will give way to negotiation as soon as it appears a good deal will be the headline made.    Since many deals dont even complete fully as envisioned, I have to think Trump would go for even the appearance of a deal.   If a country agrees but later breaks the deal, the presidency could have changed by that time.

  The problem is partly China sees its fortunes with nearby countries as the path forward for this kind of deal making rather then a hard stance USA has made for it.   I wouldn't say Trump has threatened peace unless it was already in fragile condition, I do agree trade war is well named as less trade lowers the incentives to make peace with your trading partner for that benefit.
  Take away the benefit of peace and maybe peace is lost but also you dont have to pay friends to stay friends.  Markets should decide trade not politics, thats the biggest problem here and not one person but a great many.

[philipma1957]

With barely a week in Trump's second term in office he has made some significant changes in some of the laws that the previous president had but the one that concerns me the most is Trump authorizing the release of bombs to Israel in their war on Palestine infact these said bombs are so powerful that it calls for concern about human rights violations

The bomb known as MK_84 also known as bunkers is so powerful that it penetrate some meters deep into the ground before detonating and with Trump sending this kind of powerful weapons to Israel what does this mean on world peace can trump truly end the war going on the the middle east or he is coming to fuel it

Here's the link https://news-af.feednews.com/news/detail/26fc1bb65d5dc064dba9c1248af17369?client=news

this theory below is based on the usa russian mad theory and is not religious in any way shape or form:


I look at the middle east as a game of numbers.

The countries surrounding israel are mostly Muslim.

the amount of jews to muslims can be shown at under 1 to 100.

so when Muslims attacked israel and killed 1300 jews. israel is going to want to kill over 130,000 Muslims.


so far the guess is 55,000 to 63,000 Muslims have been killed .

that is around 50 to one.

Expand your math and kill everyone in Israel that would be 7 million and if israel manage to kill back at  50 to one that would be 350 million muslims. which would leave the muslims with no more jews in israel 🇮🇱 yet still over one billion muslims worldwide.

I would argue the better bombs would boost israel kill ratio higher than fifty to one which should make for more peace since muslims would not want to lose every muslim to kill every jew.


Now this is not a religious statement this is based on the russian usa policy of mad

this means : mutually assured destruction.

So Trumps order may simply be an expansion of the theory of mad which he was exposed to bigly in the early 60s when he proved he was not a sucker or loser when he doged the draft for vietnam war.