So zelensky why not want peace ? Trump said zelensky don't want to stop

[CroverNo01]

Putin convinced Trump that the Ukraine constitution doesn't allow Z much power since his term expired. Z is trying to hang on to power as long as he can. That's part of the reason why Z was not allowed into the Putin/Trump talks. He doesn't have the power to negotiate for Ukraine any longer.

Vladimir Putin is a man of his word, most people see him as a dictator because he commits to executing power over mere words. Putin is putting up with Zelensky, frighten the atmosphere of Ukraine with his sophistication weapons. This whole matter is complicated, although we tend to get informed and updated with latest trends on this particular news circulating round. The president of the United States have interfere with the whole hot firing circumstances between Ukraine and Russia. The war zone have been place on paused with both parties  seizing fire, we thought this could be sign of peace but with the current development, it's definitely going to be lengthy one.

[Alpha Marine]

Even today a large part of people in Western Europe and USA believes its an unprovoked war to capture land of Ukraine by Russia. While if you ask to people in Asia, Africa or South America, they'd have a different view.

Ukraine is in their country, fighting off invaders but somehow the people being invaded are at fault for the war? There were reasons why Ukraine wanted to join NATO was only the tip of the spear of the cause of the chaos.

You can't tell the people being invaded to cease fire when they cannot guarantee that the invaders will cease fire. He never said he didn't want peace, he only asked for a guarantee that the other party would also respect the cease-fire.

[uneng]

Trump got mad when Zelensky told USA has an ocean which keeps them safe from threats for now, but that it won't protect them forever, in case Europe falls for eastern forces. If Trump really believes Putin respects him and has him in great esteem, he is really an idiot, besides being a liar and deceptive individual.

I like to think about it through an analogy with Lord of The Rings. Saruman is heading into Rohan, and Gondor doesn't care sending any help. Gondor is proud of itself being ruled by an egoistical and selfish ruler. However, it's just a matter of time until the enemy forces reach their gates, also in high numbers and strength.

Ironically, I don't doubt something similar is going to happen in the end of this era we are living. The USA is likely to be the last bastion, which can potentially survive with the support of the remainings from Europe.

[Fullbear2222]

Trump got mad when Zelensky told USA has an ocean which keeps them safe from threats for now, but that it won't protect them forever, in case Europe falls for eastern forces. If Trump really believes Putin respects him and has him in great esteem, he is really an idiot, besides being a liar and deceptive individual.

I like to think about it through an analogy with Lord of The Rings. Saruman is heading into Rohan, and Gondor doesn't care sending any help. Gondor is proud of itself being ruled by an egoistical and selfish ruler. However, it's just a matter of time until the enemy forces reach their gates, also in high numbers and strength.

Ironically, I don't doubt something similar is going to happen in the end of this era we are living. The USA is likely to be the last bastion, which can potentially survive with the support of the remainings from Europe.

Zelensky really should show more respect.
This guy never survive in prison with this kind of attitude.
But trump been very kind with him like nice grandfather.
Zelensky If want good for ukraine should look towards for USA more Europe will just use him.

Even today a large part of people in Western Europe and USA believes its an unprovoked war to capture land of Ukraine by Russia. While if you ask to people in Asia, Africa or South America, they'd have a different view.

Ukraine is in their country, fighting off invaders but somehow the people being invaded are at fault for the war? There were reasons why Ukraine wanted to join NATO was only the tip of the spear of the cause of the chaos.

You can't tell the people being invaded to cease fire when they cannot guarantee that the invaders will cease fire. He never said he didn't want peace, he only asked for a guarantee that the other party would also respect the cease-fire.

First ukraine is not country it's so corrupted how this even can be country.
It's more like business club for oligarchs to take from others and send them to war.

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[Charles-Tim]

I like to think about it through an analogy with Lord of The Rings. Saruman is heading into Rohan, and Gondor doesn't care sending any help. Gondor is proud of itself being ruled by an egoistical and selfish ruler. However, it's just a matter of time until the enemy forces reach their gates, also in high numbers and strength.

You make a good point. This means that Putin might want to build back the Soviet Union and which could take decades. Bounce on another European country if he is able to finish with Ukraine and so on. And it is possible they can later have a president that will like to control the world thinking he has the European power.

Ironically, I don't doubt something similar is going to happen in the end of this era we are living. The USA is likely to be the last bastion, which can potentially survive with the support of the remainings from Europe.

It is very possible. Can you not see how things are turning. It is very possible that Trump will break the US ally relationship away from Europe. Trump said what he wants is peace. But the world has proved in the past that kings that wanted peace are the unlucky ones. I hope this will not later result to a greater problem. We all want peace also. But did Putin and Russian government want peace or they are strategically building an empire.

[montaga]

Everyone wants peace to his terms and contitions including Zelensky.
Most people also did not want the "dead" shot, but  still took it, sometiimes even several times. Can we settle that world war first?

The three stooges Zelensky, Trump and the JD Vance at work.
Zelensky's job at hand for the day was to call Vance a "Bitch".

Someone but a decorative wall aroud Trumps Hollywood Walk of Fame star

[BADecker]

I like to think about it through an analogy with Lord of The Rings. Saruman is heading into Rohan, and Gondor doesn't care sending any help. Gondor is proud of itself being ruled by an egoistical and selfish ruler. However, it's just a matter of time until the enemy forces reach their gates, also in high numbers and strength.

You make a good point. This means that Putin might want to build back the Soviet Union and which could take decades. Bounce on another European country if he is able to finish with Ukraine and so on. And it is possible they can later have a president that will like to control the world thinking he has the European power.

Ironically, I don't doubt something similar is going to happen in the end of this era we are living. The USA is likely to be the last bastion, which can potentially survive with the support of the remainings from Europe.

It is very possible. Can you not see how things are turning. It is very possible that Trump will break the US ally relationship away from Europe. Trump said what he wants is peace. But the world has proved in the past that kings that wanted peace are the unlucky ones. I hope this will not later result to a greater problem. We all want peace also. But did Putin and Russian government want peace or they are strategically building an empire.

Trump wants MAGA above everything else.

Putin is building an empire the same way he saw the US doing it. It's all about fair and open trade.

The war was started by Zelensky sending troops to attack people - both Russian and Ukrainian - in the Donetsk and Donbas areas. Putin was only trying to protect these people. Z wants more war.

[Marvelockg]

Ironically, I don't doubt something similar is going to happen in the end of this era we are living. The USA is likely to be the last bastion, which can potentially survive with the support of the remainings from Europe.

even in the worst of situation that any nation has gotten to, it still looks really rude the manner trump addressed Zelensky and how they try to shut him up from even airing his opinion. even though they have remained in this war through part of the help they received from the USA, Zelensky has shown how strong a man he is to have withstand all the threat of Putin and the oppression of Russia.

like he said, no nation is immune to this form of attack. that a country is not at war and can help those at war doesn't give them the right to speak down on the Ukrainian president the way trump and his spokesperson did. mere watching the clip on some media platforms and observing the nature of the conversation between trump and Zelensky, it only shows an utter disregard to the personality of Zelensky even if the card is not at his Favour at the moment. maybe the tune might jjust be about getting him to succumb to the condition of peace but airing that kind of conversation on a delicate matter as that might even have it own way of instigating the world war 3 they are trying to avoid.

[Hispo]

Why would he want peace? This war has made him wealthy beyond belief. Half the money we’ve sent him is missing. He sold half the weapons we gave him to our enemies. He’s gotten to hang out with celebrities, talk to the most powerful US politicians… He’s having the time of his life traveling around for photo ops and making hundreds of millions of dollars while his people suffer. Fuck Zelensky.

Most of the aid he has received from the United States does not come in the form of money actually, those are weapons which are manufactured in the United States and then sent to Ukraine for them to defend themselves, simple as that. Though, that does not cross out the possibility of the government of Ukraine to be dealing with such weapons and getting money from it.
Also, it is ironic how easily it is to badmouth Zelensky when he is not even the prime aggressor in this war but the defender of the attack from a biggest nations than his.
The political right in the USA are dangerously comfortable with cheering a tyrant like Putin.

[Accardo]

Ironically, I don't doubt something similar is going to happen in the end of this era we are living. The USA is likely to be the last bastion, which can potentially survive with the support of the remainings from Europe.

even in the worst of situation that any nation has gotten to, it still looks really rude the manner trump addressed Zelensky and how they try to shut him up from even airing his opinion. even though they have remained in this war through part of the help they received from the USA, Zelensky has shown how strong a man he is to have withstand all the threat of Putin and the oppression of Russia.

like he said, no nation is immune to this form of attack. that a country is not at war and can help those at war doesn't give them the right to speak down on the Ukrainian president the way trump and his spokesperson did. mere watching the clip on some media platforms and observing the nature of the conversation between trump and Zelensky, it only shows an utter disregard to the personality of Zelensky even if the card is not at his Favour at the moment. maybe the tune might jjust be about getting him to succumb to the condition of peace but airing that kind of conversation on a delicate matter as that might even have it own way of instigating the world war 3 they are trying to avoid.

First they started with his outfit, it wasn't necessary asking such a silly question in a middle of a serious deal that affects millions of life. And from the look of those clips the attitude channeled on him in that office, could have led to why Zelensky rose up the matter of diplomacy not being enough to stop Puttin. His contributions wasn't taken seriously, because Trump assumed that Putin respects him and wouldn't continue fighting after signing a seize fire.

But for a man who has failed to comply to his own signature five times during the last administration before Trump, they would have heard from Zelensky. The truth is, the new administration don't favor the president of Ukraine, and Trump is not his guy. Although Donald Trump claims to be on both sides, but were it to be Putin in that room there would be a more serious conversation than the disrespectful behaviour that occurred there.

[coin-investor]

But for a man who has failed to comply to his own signature five times during the last administration before Trump, they would have heard from Zelensky. The truth is, the new administration don't favor the president of Ukraine, and Trump is not his guy. Although Donald Trump claims to be on both sides, but were it to be Putin in that room there would be a more serious conversation than the disrespectful behaviour that occurred there.

The whole thing is a complete setup. Usually the vice president will not interrupt conversations between presidents, but VP J.Vance did so and fueled the heat against Zelensky, and that's the cue for Trump to berate and throw insults against Zelensky; they are meeting important issues. It should be held in a closed room and not televised; it became a disaplay of Trump's arrogance against an ally.
Trump makes it appear that Zelensky is all fault for starting the war when Putin is the aggressor. I think its time for Europe to stand on their own. Trump doesn't care anymore about the situation because he is siding with Putin.

[LTU_btc]

Seems that it was planned to destroy Zelensky in front of cameras if he won't agree to Trump's conditions. When there is JD Vance in the room, you can expect similar things. After all, this is guy who was wearing t-shirt with soviet flag:
https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-wearing-soviet-shirt-goes-viral-1931471
Zelensky really got some balls. I don't know how else you can talk with people who are just repeating Russian propaganda narratives. Maybe there is only mistake that he made - maybe it would be better to communicate with translator. When your English isn't that strong, it's not easy to give good responses under such pressure.

Zelensky really should show more respect.
This guy never survive in prison with this kind of attitude.
But trump been very kind with him like nice grandfather.
Zelensky If want good for ukraine should look towards for USA more Europe will just use him.

What respect he should show? Do you wantto see him licking Trump's ass? Only persons who didn't showed respect in that room was Trump and Vance.

[BADecker]

Seems that it was planned to destroy Zelensky in front of cameras if he won't agree to Trump's conditions. When there is JD Vance in the room, you can expect similar things. After all, this is guy who was wearing t-shirt with soviet flag:
https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-wearing-soviet-shirt-goes-viral-1931471
Zelensky really got some balls. I don't know how else you can talk with people who are just repeating Russian propaganda narratives. Maybe there is only mistake that he made - maybe it would be better to communicate with translator. When your English isn't that strong, it's not easy to give good responses under such pressure.

Zelensky really should show more respect.
This guy never survive in prison with this kind of attitude.
But trump been very kind with him like nice grandfather.
Zelensky If want good for ukraine should look towards for USA more Europe will just use him.

What respect he should show? Do you wantto see him licking Trump's ass? Only persons who didn't showed respect in that room was Trump and Vance.

Too bad they were all under some kind of truce to limit the destruction of Z, or he would have been gone right then. If the meeting were taking place in Kiev, Trump would have been assassinated on the spot for verbally opposing Z.

Ukraine has two courts, and I don't follow them enough to know what they both really do. But Z imprisoned one of the court leaders for opposing the somewhat illegal martial law he placed on the country. Nobody should respect this joker. If it wasn't for the corruption found in the EU leaders, the people of the EU would have rejected Ukraine long ago.

[covfefe_]

The saddest part is the European leaders cheering the war fanatic who has lost sense of reality. That is the most unfortunate sight of this year.
Almost all of the European leaders that cheered don't have a popular vote among their own citizens but if Europe kept on going the path of war, they'd destroy themselves socially and economically. The world should move on ignoring Europe, they don't offer anything useful anyway.

[Nothingtodo]

Trump said zelensky stop peace deal
Why ? And why zelensky don't care own people world want peace also hedge funds and blackrock for sure want to start building in there zelensky now playing with their money and profits too they need peace to build ukraine.
Now russia try to bring peace while ukraine seems more war mentality, why ?
World want peace but zelensky seems to be against peace why?

War is a curse for a country and creates a hell on earth for its people. It sounds strange that not every person in the world is in favor of war, but Zelensky is not in favor of ending the war. There may be a deeper political issue here that is why Ukrainian President Zelensky is not responding to a ceasefire.

[uneng]

War is a curse for a country and creates a hell on earth for its people. It sounds strange that not every person in the world is in favor of war, but Zelensky is not in favor of ending the war. There may be a deeper political issue here that is why Ukrainian President Zelensky is not responding to a ceasefire.

Following this logic, USA should have never become a country then. They should have remained an English colony, avoiding the war and death which came with the independency. And what about World War II? It shouldn't have even happened at first point, if European countries such as Polony had just accepted German invasion quietly.

It's pretty simple to see how perverse this logic is.

Regards USA's independency, thankfully they had George Washington back then, and not Donald Trump, otherwise he would have negotiated the peace, since he didn't have the cards.

[Iranus]

Seems that it was planned to destroy Zelensky in front of cameras if he won't agree to Trump's conditions. When there is JD Vance in the room, you can expect similar things. After all, this is guy who was wearing t-shirt with soviet flag:
https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-wearing-soviet-shirt-goes-viral-1931471
Zelensky really got some balls. I don't know how else you can talk with people who are just repeating Russian propaganda narratives. Maybe there is only mistake that he made - maybe it would be better to communicate with translator. When your English isn't that strong, it's not easy to give good responses under such pressure.

I don't think this was a pre-planned scheme to take down Zelensky because his meeting with Trump was only scheduled when both sides had agreed on the mineral deal beforehand. That means they only met and signed the agreement because the agreement had been approved and agreed upon by the negotiating delegations of the two countries beforehand. It was just a normal conversation between the two presidents before the official signing of the agreement, but unfortunately an unnecessary argument happened.

Zelensky is very brave but he is making things more disadvantageous for himself and he should be aware of that. He should restrain himself because the purpose of the meeting with Trump is not to argue who is right and who is wrong. He has forgotten the purpose of that meeting.

[Accardo]

But for a man who has failed to comply to his own signature five times during the last administration before Trump, they would have heard from Zelensky. The truth is, the new administration don't favor the president of Ukraine, and Trump is not his guy. Although Donald Trump claims to be on both sides, but were it to be Putin in that room there would be a more serious conversation than the disrespectful behaviour that occurred there.

The whole thing is a complete setup. Usually the vice president will not interrupt conversations between presidents, but VP J.Vance did so and fueled the heat against Zelensky, and that's the cue for Trump to berate and throw insults against Zelensky; they are meeting important issues. It should be held in a closed room and not televised; it became a disaplay of Trump's arrogance against an ally.
Trump makes it appear that Zelensky is all fault for starting the war when Putin is the aggressor. I think its time for Europe to stand on their own. Trump doesn't care anymore about the situation because he is siding with Putin.

Indeed, vice president J. Vance began the talk that led to the dispute, and Zelensky wasn't expecting him to interrupt their conversation considering his position in the room. Everyone began to act as though the Ukrainian President wasn't a good leader, and for trump to assume or say he's gambling with millions of lifes in the midst of the press, isn't great. They all blamed him, and after the meeting Trump's tweet states that Zelensky is not yet ready for peace.

Probably, they did that on purpose to channel the blame on the Ukrainian leader because he didn't campaign for Trump. Politics always unfolds this way, and for the fact that the American people are already looking to take 'raw earth' from Ukraine as a payback for the $300 billion issued to them during the last administration, they may have no much concern regarding their warefare.

[NotATether]

Putin wants a thriving Ukraine that is friendly. If the 2014 Ukrainian vote hadn't gone to the CIA, there would have been no war, and the whole land that Russia took over would still be Ukraine.

The CIA causes a lot of problems in the world. They need to be audited.

[Fullbear2222]

Putin wants a thriving Ukraine that is friendly. If the 2014 Ukrainian vote hadn't gone to the CIA, there would have been no war, and the whole land that Russia took over would still be Ukraine.

The CIA causes a lot of problems in the world. They need to be audited.

Now the united nations are in usa, the USA they make the rules they audit others they make judgements of others and they call the shots. The USA the self elected world police

But about CIA well it's clever to use money and power to gain more power and influence all over the world, USA is good as weak are other nations.
They can print money but this money need REAL WORLD ASSETS so they print money and going to around to world to make deals....weaker the Nations then more they need USA, Nations in crisis corrupted leaders and weak economy those are main target countries USA love to work with USA not interested about strong countries.