Invest in the stock market or or to trade.

[tvplus006]

...Becuase even the stock market companies are under the regulation, there is lots of scam incidents in stock market You could found some by searching in Google Enron(around $60billion) in 2001, Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme( $65 billion) in 2008, Wirecard 2 billion etc.

You're wrong. Bernie Madoff's campaign did not have any shares and therefore they were not listed on the stock market. It was a common ponzi scheme, when clients gave their money to a fraudster at a high percentage, and due to which the first "investors" received a good profit.

If we take the stock market as a whole, then I would not consider investing in companies that are not American, since the legislation of not all countries provides for insurance if the shares were purchased through a broker.

[|MINER|]

You're wrong. Bernie Madoff's campaign did not have any shares and therefore they were not listed on the stock market. It was a common ponzi scheme, when clients gave their money to a fraudster at a high percentage, and due to which the first "investors" received a good profit.

If we take the stock market as a whole, then I would not consider investing in companies that are not American, since the legislation of not all countries provides for insurance if the shares were purchased through a broker.

Thanks for the pointing out, I thought that was also sold their share publicly.

Anyway, definitely it would be better decision to focus on the American companies for buying the shares. But still we should be care about choosing the company just because an American company it doesn't guarantee 100% that there is no possibility of fraud.

There can be example these companies like- WorldCom, Enron etc

[tvplus006]

...But still we should be care about choosing the company just because an American company it doesn't guarantee 100% that there is no possibility of fraud.
There can be example these companies like- WorldCom, Enron etc

Of course, every investor is responsible for the safety of their capital and should carefully approach the choice of a campaign to invest in. But in the examples you gave with WorldCom and Enron, the management of these companies received real terms of imprisonment, which ranged from 6 to 25 years in prison.

But in the examples you gave with WorldCom and Enron, the management of these companies received real terms of imprisonment, which ranged from 6 to 25 years in prison, and the investors, although not in full, received compensation through the courts.

[Dzwaafu11]

“INVESTING” is suited for long-term objectives like retirement,or growing wealth over time,and involves buying or holding assets,concentrating on fundamentals,and reaping the benefits of compounded growth with less stress.

“TRADING” is for the hopeful,short-term gainers by buy frequently and sell often;it takes time to analyze the market and requires a higher tolerance for risk.

“INVESTING” may be for you if you want slow growth with less involvement; “TRADING” may be for you if you enjoy analyzing the market,have time to put it all together,and can tolerate risk.

A combination of both methods work well,if strategically managing a portion of your overall portfolio for trading allows you to invest for growth over the longer term.

Investing and trading both are good; both investing and trading both have risk, and both of them require knowledge before you venture into them, but trading requires complex knowledg, trading is very risk.

However one can start both of them if you have money and interest to venture into the two but some people who don’t have mind to take too much risk go for one and mostly is investing because it doesn’t carry too much risk especially newbie investors; investment is the best option for them since before you will be a profitable trader, it will take time to master the process and everything that is needed, while investment is just a limited period of time and you will be starting investing.

[Alpen]

Warren Buffett once famously proved — with a million-dollar bet — that no one can consistently outperform the S&P500 over the long term. And he was right.

Just look at Japan: some investors there sat underwater for 30–40 years. Even in the U.S., some stocks in 2008 crashed back to prices not seen since the Great Depression.

Trying to mix short-term trading with long-term investing? That’s a guaranteed way to burn your capital.

That’s why for me — it’s crypto only. And the only real strategy that works long-term? Just HODL.

[Joy- maker]

Investing is more of safe heaven but not Risk free from my own perspective, investing doesn't require a high level of knowledge and understanding, just with basic knowledge and understanding you can start buying and hold for long term, why because you don't need to analyse the market like a trader before buying stock or crypto, rather you  buy at any price and hold long for long term, less 4 to 10 years or more. But trading is very risky and it require high level of knowledge and understanding to carry out technical analysis, and fundamental analysis before you can be able to trade in the stock market or in the crypto and it also requires hudg amount of money in other for you to make a reasonable profits.

[lizarder]

“INVESTING” is suited for long-term objectives like retirement,or growing wealth over time,and involves buying or holding assets,concentrating on fundamentals,and reaping the benefits of compounded growth with less stress.

Investment is more suitable for the long term but needs to recognize more potential so that we can concentrate on something more fundamental. If we are able to recognize potential assets then it is much better and maybe investment also does not involve great risk if we are able to recognize potential assets that have a good fundamental level.

“TRADING” is for the hopeful,short-term gainers by buy frequently and sell often;it takes time to analyze the market and requires a higher tolerance for risk.

The risk is also high because trading is not suitable for everyone, especially if people do not have a good understanding of trading. Trading also has several categories so that when someone wants to get involved in it, they need to recognize it first so that the trading they do can bring benefits that are commensurate with the capital they use. Most people think that trading can generate huge profits in a short time, but this kind of thinking often makes people lose because trading is riskier than investing.

“INVESTING” may be for you if you want slow growth with less involvement; “TRADING” may be for you if you enjoy analyzing the market,have time to put it all together,and can tolerate risk.

A combination of both methods work well,if strategically managing a portion of your overall portfolio for trading allows you to invest for growth over the longer term.

If we are new to this industry, it is better to focus on one of them because it is difficult to do it simultaneously if we do not have good knowledge. If in the implementation we start to have good knowledge in investment, then we will learn trading, so that slowly both can be applied together because it is not easy to achieve good experience or knowledge in investment and trading in a short time.

The combination can work well if someone understands the impact of risk and maybe this has been studied for a long time. In practice, investing may be much easier, but it will be a little more difficult when talking about trading because assets can fluctuate in a relatively short time in the market, so it will make people panic a little if they do not have the knowledge and experience.

[SATWAT]

Investing is more of safe heaven but not Risk free from my own perspective, investing doesn't require a high level of knowledge and understanding, just with basic knowledge and understanding you can start buying and hold for long term, why because you don't need to analyse the market like a trader before buying stock or crypto, rather you  buy at any price and hold long for long term, less 4 to 10 years or more. But trading is very risky and it require high level of knowledge and understanding to carry out technical analysis, and fundamental analysis before you can be able to trade in the stock market or in the crypto and it also requires hudg amount of money in other for you to make a reasonable profits.

No doubt Investing is safe heaven but in which because risk is always on everything even no one having guaranteed about tomorrow we will be here or not always needs to check all stats and things related where you are heading for investment because without checking its not good deal.
Trading is always risky with better chance of quick profit because this is more risky than investing but still all needed to go ahead with your complete homework without having all related updates and information anything can cause serious trouble even lost of all funds.
Always encouraged before trading understanding of risk management works because its give some good view of how things works and what is best for you but in investment you also needed to have all about project where you are investing and also having expectation of taking good profit in long run.

[tvplus006]

...That’s why for me — it’s crypto only. And the only real strategy that works long-term? Just HODL.

Such a strategy will bring profit only if the cryptocurrency was chosen correctly for the hold, since most coins simply depreciate over time, which ultimately brings losses instead of profits.

[Kagaru]

Investing is more of safe heaven but not Risk free from my own perspective, investing doesn't require a high level of knowledge and understanding, just with basic knowledge and understanding you can start buying and hold for long term, why because you don't need to analyse the market like a trader before buying stock or crypto, rather you  buy at any price and hold long for long term, less 4 to 10 years or more. But trading is very risky and it require high level of knowledge and understanding to carry out technical analysis, and fundamental analysis before you can be able to trade in the stock market or in the crypto and it also requires hudg amount of money in other for you to make a reasonable profits.

No doubt Investing is safe heaven but in which because risk is always on everything even no one having guaranteed about tomorrow we will be here or not always needs to check all stats and things related where you are heading for investment because without checking its not good deal.
Trading is always risky with better chance of quick profit because this is more risky than investing but still all needed to go ahead with your complete homework without having all related updates and information anything can cause serious trouble even lost of all funds.
Always encouraged before trading understanding of risk management works because its give some good view of how things works and what is best for you but in investment you also needed to have all about project where you are investing and also having expectation of taking good profit in long run.

Investing is definitely more of a long game where patience matters more than timing. You don’t need to be an expert to start but you do need to know what you’re getting into because even long term investments can go wrong if you blindly follow hype. Trading on the other hand is way more intense and you really have to stay sharp all the time. It’s not just about making quick profits but also about knowing how to protect your money when things go sideways. No matter what you choose, doing your research and understanding the risks is key.

[Alpen]

Such a strategy will bring profit only if the cryptocurrency was chosen correctly for the hold, since most coins simply depreciate over time, which ultimately brings losses instead of profits.

Technically, the only real cryptocurrency is Bitcoin. The rest? Just altcoins and a bunch of shitcoins.

[tvplus006]

Such a strategy will bring profit only if the cryptocurrency was chosen correctly for the hold, since most coins simply depreciate over time, which ultimately brings losses instead of profits.

Technically, the only real cryptocurrency is Bitcoin. The rest? Just altcoins and a bunch of shitcoins.

Yes, bitcoin is a time-tested coin that has shown record price growth for investing in such a short period of time since its creation. But among altcoins, there is, in my opinion, the same reliable coin, and this coin is ETH.

[harapan]

A combination of both methods work well,if strategically managing a portion of your overall portfolio for trading allows you to invest for growth over the longer term.

For me I'll prefer to go with investing cause knowing the amount of losses one attain while trading and the fact that trading requires a wide range of knowledge, so a good comparison to investing it's quite profitable and will lead to a long term success and growth.but one can apparently trade while investing as well but what matters it's being able to strategies in being profitable.

[Eternad]

A combination of both methods work well,if strategically managing a portion of your overall portfolio for trading allows you to invest for growth over the longer term.

For me I'll prefer to go with investing cause knowing the amount of losses one attain while trading and the fact that trading requires a wide range of knowledge, so a good comparison to investing it's quite profitable and will lead to a long term success and growth.but one can apparently trade while investing as well but what matters it's being able to strategies in being profitable.

Same here, I'll go with investing rather than to trade. Even if you have skills in trading, it can still be stressful if you do it on a regular basis.

While investing is much more of a relax way of growing your money. As long as you have separate budget for investment aside from your savings then investing on right assets like gold or bitcoin will give you decent returns if you hold it for many years.

[TheUltraElite]

Yes, bitcoin is a time-tested coin that has shown record price growth for investing in such a short period of time since its creation. But among altcoins, there is, in my opinion, the same reliable coin, and this coin is ETH.

ETH can be considered a coin worth investing in, mostly the top 10 from any coin aggregator website falls in the "good to invest" category but must invest is bitcoin.

So for stock markets, indeed I have experience in that prior to bitcoin, I actively do buy stocks from companies that I fell are going to do well. It has its ups and downs but all part of the game and it is a good diversification beyond crypto.

Never diversify into altcoins, they are almost useless. But traditional assets will be always an option to put your money on.

[BITCOIN4X]

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ETH can be considered a coin worth investing in, mostly the top 10 from any coin aggregator website falls in the "good to invest" category but must invest is bitcoin.

So for stock markets, indeed I have experience in that prior to bitcoin, I actively do buy stocks from companies that I fell are going to do well. It has its ups and downs but all part of the game and it is a good diversification beyond crypto.

Never diversify into altcoins, they are almost useless. But traditional assets will be always an option to put your money on.

Not all altcoins are bad, right?
Some altcoins can also be expected to provide long-term returns for their holders. ETH is good, I think BNB and a few others are good too, but it all depends on the risk tolerance of each individual. We should not discourage anyone from investing and innovating on whatever investment assets they think are worth having in their portfolio, but proper advice can help them think realistically.

So far, we know that there are many new millionaires born from bitcoin investment, but we also cannot deny that there are many new millionaires also born because of their investment in altcoins. Each investor has their own interests and they can choose which one they think is best, but they should not forget that bitcoin offers more than just the potential for long-term returns.

[Dzwaafu11]

“INVESTING” is suited for long-term objectives like retirement,or growing wealth over time,and involves buying or holding assets,concentrating on fundamentals,and reaping the benefits of compounded growth with less stress.

“TRADING” is for the hopeful,short-term gainers by buy frequently and sell often;it takes time to analyze the market and requires a higher tolerance for risk.

“INVESTING” may be for you if you want slow growth with less involvement; “TRADING” may be for you if you enjoy analyzing the market,have time to put it all together,and can tolerate risk.

A combination of both methods work well,if strategically managing a portion of your overall portfolio for trading allows you to invest for growth over the longer term.

The thing you mentioned could be good to do, based on someone's interests. Some people have the money to do the two, which are trading and investment, and it works for them; that is why they don’t quit it.

However, one reason why many don’t start something like this is the funds to start up a business. Some people have some amount of money to venture into business, and they choose investment because this is where their interest is and where they feel safe.

For this kind of person, you can’t advise them to start up both; rather, they should go for one of these two, which are investment or trading. However, as a beginner in the crypto space, I will go for investment because of the risk that is associated with trading.

[cxtreenal]

Investing is more of safe heaven but not Risk free from my own perspective, investing doesn't require a high level of knowledge and understanding, just with basic knowledge and understanding you can start buying and hold for long term, why because you don't need to analyse the market like a trader before buying stock or crypto, rather you  buy at any price and hold long for long term, less 4 to 10 years or more. But trading is very risky and it require high level of knowledge and understanding to carry out technical analysis, and fundamental analysis before you can be able to trade in the stock market or in the crypto and it also requires hudg amount of money in other for you to make a reasonable profits.

No doubt Investing is safe heaven but in which because risk is always on everything even no one having guaranteed about tomorrow we will be here or not always needs to check all stats and things related where you are heading for investment because without checking its not good deal.
Trading is always risky with better chance of quick profit because this is more risky than investing but still all needed to go ahead with your complete homework without having all related updates and information anything can cause serious trouble even lost of all funds.
Always encouraged before trading understanding of risk management works because its give some good view of how things works and what is best for you but in investment you also needed to have all about project where you are investing and also having expectation of taking good profit in long run.

Nope, trading is not always risky, I disagree with you. When I entered the crypto market, I took advice from experienced traders and bought cryptos based on their advice and my own analysis and made profits in a short time. I think I was lucky and made profits. New traders like me who enter the market in the short term and lose money. But later on, I was unable to maintain profits, one of the reasons for this was lack of sufficient money. Trading will make you successful if you can plan properly. You are presenting trading in such a way that this method mostly has the possibility of losing all your money, but I cannot agree with you because your portfolio may show a decline in value for some time like a few weeks or a few months but most of it recovers. Even if you make a wrong decision in the market analysis, you will not lose your wealth completely.

Long-term investment decisions are a very good plan for an investor, regardless of the risk. The risk is very low but you should buy/accumulation the right crypto. There are many reliable cryptos in the market which have been around for years and the investors do not experience any change in capital as a result of their purchases. So long term investment will make you a successful investor this is not true in all cases. This is the right consideration and you should make the best decision like investing in Bitcoin.

[Alpen]

Yes, bitcoin is a time-tested coin that has shown record price growth for investing in such a short period of time since its creation. But among altcoins, there is, in my opinion, the same reliable coin, and this coin is ETH.

You’re mistaken. The second truly reliable ‘coin’ is actually the dollar — and it’s been on the blockchain for quite a while now.

But what makes Ethereum reliable, exactly? Can you write a smart contract yourself? Can you even audit its code for bugs?

I can’t — and neither can 98% of ETH holders. They just hold it hoping to squeeze out higher returns than with Bitcoin. But the reality is, most of them lost money, and now there are way fewer people eager to get rich off ETH.

[EarnOnVictor]

A combination of both methods work well,if strategically managing a portion of your overall portfolio for trading allows you to invest for growth over the longer term.

I love your conclusion on this. If it were to be some people, they might outrightly choose one over the other for obvious reasons of what they have to offer, but it is good to diversity. Why not try trading? Why not try investing? Both are means of making money and people are making money through them, even though trading is risker, and investing is less risky. Nevertheless, engaging in the two will surely average it. And if trading becomes a headache, you leave it and focus on investing. No one can be prosecuted for trying, it is lack of trying that is even worse.