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The soul sole purpose of elon's mission is to get digital AI god in place while the stoopids are distracted. There will be nowhere to hide from AI daddy once he is spread out throughout the networks from the core and where better to start than from the IRS who will hunt you down like a dog over those few peanut trades you made on some obscure memecoin wayback. Hey you owe us 1 trillion dollars or jailtime because we are imposing a 1mill% penalty on your crypto a$$ ...don't have it?? ..hey thats ok we will take your house and everything else you have or bought for anyone without our permission (exaggerated slightly but sometimes you have to do this to fit in with yall) Nobody has even mentioned the openly known fact that on september 28th 2022 the fed ran a defecit where remittances could not cover the tab as the carry trade they basically use could not earn from the spread. When the president says there is no inflation he means no inflation for the people who don't mind buying bread or essentials at double the price but the real inflation for the the average jimbob has gone well past the 5% threshold meaning this runaway train has now left the station and is beginning to slowly roll down the gradient until it hits a steep decline. Now imagine throwing another scamdemic and a global war into the mix for the perfect shitstorm.Well let me assure you this is what is being organised as we speak my furry little friends (furry little friends refers to all the animals tortured and mutilated for your progress in cosmetics and vaccines not to mention your incoming monkey chips so ironically they will have their vengeance) God is great, all praise worship and glory to the mighty Lord of Spirits. Amen  I will quote my previous rant here also as it seems to be on topic and too lazy and wicked to add or subtract from it. 
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April 08, 2025, 11:14:14 AM |
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Polymarket even has a bet on the recession that's 60% chance it's likely to happen.  The tariff game is just another form of manipulation. Sure, manufacturing numbers look good on paper, but the real question is how this affects global supply chains and consumer purchasing power.
When your fiat buys less stuff, that's essentially a stealth tax on everyone.
That's simply the inflation that these tariffs are also going to impact. But let's see on how it will affect with all the negotiation and stuff that Trump and other countries which are willing to talk to him to reduce both ends tariffs percentage.
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News coming out of The White House that 70 countries are negotiating for lower tariffs. I think they will be able to cut mutually satisfying deals but the problem lies with China. Trump thinks he can bully them & I’m not sure if he can. At least the EU has confirmed that they are ready to negotiate.
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April 08, 2025, 11:54:26 AM |
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News coming out of The White House that 70 countries are negotiating for lower tariffs. I think they will be able to cut mutually satisfying deals but the problem lies with China. Trump thinks he can bully them & I’m not sure if he can. At least the EU has confirmed that they are ready to negotiate.
Which is irrelevant in the sense that still ANY tariff means that the US consumer will be paying the subsidies to the "poor millionaires" that own the companies that produce in America and paying in the way the cost of a recession. This is possibly the best analysis I have seen, done by Singapore - a country that came out of nearly nothing through good practices, sound political judgement and great decissions: https://youtu.be/c5GMKzJVQJM
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I had thought Rand Paul was a good guy. Don't bail the car companies out. Don't bail anybody out. If they can't adapt to the tariffs, let them fail. Consider the car companies. They are making so much money that it's obscene. All they have to do is re-route their spending towards making vehicles rather than advertising. Same with Canadian companies. All that tariffs do is focus the spending on the manufacturing rather than all kinds of unnecessary extras. Or they could do like some of them have already... build plants in America, and become American companies. I sure hope this doesn't pass in the House. The Senate Just Passed Rand Paul's Bill To Block Trump's Tariffs on Canada https://reason.com/2025/04/02/the-senate-just-passed-rand-pauls-bill-to-block-trumps-tariffs-on-canada/With a 51-48 vote, the Senate approved a resolution to block Trump's tariffs on imports from Canada, which he imposed by declaring an economic emergency in early February. The measure to cancel that emergency declaration, sponsored by Sens. Tim Kaine (D–Va.) and Rand Paul (R–Ky), faces an uncertain future in the Republican-controlled House and a near-certain veto if it reaches Trump's desk—but it also represents a small glimmer of hope, as it is the the first serious attempt by Congress at limiting the president's ability to smash free trade. ...
 Rand Paul has ALWAYS been against tariffs. Why was he a good guy before when he said he was against tariffs, but a bad guy now, when he acts on his position that he is against tariffs? Perhaps your position is that if someone isn't onboard with 100% of Trump's policies, they are a bad guy?
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April 08, 2025, 04:38:06 PM |
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I had thought Rand Paul was a good guy. Don't bail the car companies out. Don't bail anybody out. If they can't adapt to the tariffs, let them fail. ~  Rand Paul has ALWAYS been against tariffs. Why was he a good guy before when he said he was against tariffs, but a bad guy now, when he acts on his position that he is against tariffs? Perhaps your position is that if someone isn't onboard with 100% of Trump's policies, they are a bad guy? RP was against the medical corruption... against Fauci. Good, right? If one made a study of all of RP's ideals and goals, who knows if he would be considered good or bad? The tariffs are good. They are bringing business and money of the US right back here, into the US, rather than scattered all over the world in a loss to Americans. The point is that Americans will have to focus on staying at home rather than doing eye-wander around the world. It will take a moment or two for Americans to re-adapt to the thing and way that they were always to have been. World recession? So what? It will get rid of a bunch of corruption, because what looked like world prosperity was really world thieves in high places making things look like prosperity so that they could rip off the little people. Now, the little people will have a chance to rebuild themselves. In essence, the tariffs are only a supply-and-demand operation overcoming a false sense of prosperity. 
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I had thought Rand Paul was a good guy. Don't bail the car companies out. Don't bail anybody out. If they can't adapt to the tariffs, let them fail. ~  Rand Paul has ALWAYS been against tariffs. Why was he a good guy before when he said he was against tariffs, but a bad guy now, when he acts on his position that he is against tariffs? Perhaps your position is that if someone isn't onboard with 100% of Trump's policies, they are a bad guy? RP was against the medical corruption... against Fauci. Good, right? If one made a study of all of RP's ideals and goals, who knows if he would be considered good or bad? The tariffs are good. They are bringing business and money of the US right back here, into the US, rather than scattered all over the world in a loss to Americans. The point is that Americans will have to focus on staying at home rather than doing eye-wander around the world. It will take a moment or two for Americans to re-adapt to the thing and way that they were always to have been. World recession? So what? It will get rid of a bunch of corruption, because what looked like world prosperity was really world thieves in high places making things look like prosperity so that they could rip off the little people. Now, the little people will have a chance to rebuild themselves. In essence, the tariffs are only a supply-and-demand operation overcoming a false sense of prosperity.  As usual, you parrot the MAGAtard propaganda, but the rest of the world is beginning to see what it means for their personal economies to choose a stupid and economically illiterate guy to run a big country. Pensioners see their pensions srink, poor people will be even poorer in lack of the cheap Chinese products, all consumers will pay the "extra" of local production or the tariffs themselves. One can only expect that the mid-terms will be a call of attention.
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Trump is thinking that he is very smart by startingsuch war against whole world, but I don't think that there will be a winner. Some countries will announce retaliatory tariffs against USA.And I'm not talking about some minor economics. But first of all I obviously have China in my mind. It would hit USA really hard. And when there will be sudden price increase everywhere, I'm not sure that average US citizen will accept it very positively.
No - there are no winners in a Trade Tariff war. I have heard from a commentator that "probably" the best thing to do would not be to retaliate with counter tariff's instead wait and let the US price increases create their own form of domestic pressure but of course nearly all country will respond with their own tariff's which will just compound the worries anyone has of global recession. I had thought Rand Paul was a good guy. Don't bail the car companies out. Don't bail anybody out. If they can't adapt to the tariffs, let them fail. ~  Rand Paul has ALWAYS been against tariffs. Why was he a good guy before when he said he was against tariffs, but a bad guy now, when he acts on his position that he is against tariffs? Perhaps your position is that if someone isn't onboard with 100% of Trump's policies, they are a bad guy? The tariffs are good. They are bringing business and money of the US right back here, into the US, rather than scattered all over the world in a loss to Americans. The point is that Americans will have to focus on staying at home rather than doing eye-wander around the world. It will take a moment or two for Americans to re-adapt to the thing and way that they were always to have been. Really, in just one week US companies have built warehouses and manufacturing facilities in the US and migrated their operations back there employing US workforce? even though it has taken years for them to do the same abroad - unfortunately for you it just doesnt work that way, its a pity Trump & co. dont realise this also. I had thought Rand Paul was a good guy. Don't bail the car companies out. Don't bail anybody out. If they can't adapt to the tariffs, let them fail. ~  Rand Paul has ALWAYS been against tariffs. Why was he a good guy before when he said he was against tariffs, but a bad guy now, when he acts on his position that he is against tariffs? Perhaps your position is that if someone isn't onboard with 100% of Trump's policies, they are a bad guy? World recession? So what? It will get rid of a bunch of corruption, because what looked like world prosperity was really world thieves in high places making things look like prosperity so that they could rip off the little people. Now, the little people will have a chance to rebuild themselves. ? its the little people who will suffer the most, tariff's mean higher pricing for anything not grown or produced in the US Corruption - how exactly will a world recession get rid of a bunch of corruption?
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April 09, 2025, 05:11:15 PM Last edit: April 09, 2025, 05:33:05 PM by BADecker |
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World recession? So what? It will get rid of a bunch of corruption, because what looked like world prosperity was really world thieves in high places making things look like prosperity so that they could rip off the little people. Now, the little people will have a chance to rebuild themselves.
? its the little people who will suffer the most, tariff's mean higher pricing for anything not grown or produced in the US Corruption - how exactly will a world recession get rid of a bunch of corruption? Why are the little people little? It's because they are being forced into littleness by the corruption of the big people. The little people can build and make anything. After all, they are already doing it for the big people... all the products and services that they need for living and life. Get rid of the corruption so that the little people can be free to build their lives for themselves rather than being taxed by the big people. Government is meant to exist to take the 'humps' off of big problems that the little people have. It's not meant to screw the little people over so that some big people can get rich. Tariffs mean recession for the big people so that they lose all their unnecessary control over the little people. When the regulations of government come off the little people, they will be able to produce anything they need and want for themselves a lot easier. Why? Because the big people will not be around to screw and rape them. When appropriate, Trump will reduces the regs so that little people can start doing for themselves rather than for the big people. There is a long way to go to get to that point. Trump may even need a third term. Or, we need to get a totally Trump-minded person into office. Or people need to get a basic understanding of common law - You Are Law. Tariff Freak Out: Why So Many People Cling To The Cancer Of Globalism https://alt-market.us/tariff-freak-out-why-so-many-people-cling-to-the-cancer-of-globalism/This past week after Donald Trump's "Liberation Day" announcements the Dow Jones Index plunged by around 4000 points and the global panic was palpable. Social media was rife with nervous naysayers on both sides of the aisle – The leftists are panicking but also cheering because they think crashing markets will turn into public support for the woke commie brigade. A contingent of conservatives are panicking too, but I'll get to that in a moment… My response? Finally this farce of a market is facing a correction and smacking people in the face with five fingers of reality! I applaud the event because it's something that needed to happen years ago. Most skeptics are wrong on the tariff issue, mainly because they think the stock market matters. It doesn't. People are also terrified of tariffs because they think globalism matters. It doesn't. This position might upset those who are heavily invested right now, but I would argue they are missing the macro picture and they need to look at the situation from a position of inevitability. Tariffs and the end of globalism are a necessary outcome. Here's why we shouldn't fear the Reaper… Stocks Are Irrelevant Until Market Manipulation Ends The narrative on social media (from critics on both sides) is that Trump is unwittingly destroying the US economy to spite foreign trading partners because they're getting more out of us than we're getting out of them. I can't speak to Trump's motives because I'm not a psychic, but I can say that it's impossible for Trump to destroy the economy. Why? Because it was already destroyed over the past two decades (some would argue longer) by the Federal Reserve and previous administrations. ...

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No - there are no winners in a Trade Tariff war.
I have heard from a commentator that "probably" the best thing to do would not be to retaliate with counter tariff's instead wait and let the US price increases create their own form of domestic pressure but of course nearly all country will respond with their own tariff's which will just compound the worries anyone has of global recession.
I'm actually surprised about world reaction so far. Only China imposed retaliatory tariffs. And seems that both USA aren't going to stop on this. While rest of world, there is no real reaction, it's only words so far. Now I see that EU is going to impose 10-25% tariffs, but it's not even on all goods. I'm wondering for how long whole this insanity is going to last. I really doubt that this trade tariff war is going to take years.
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No - there are no winners in a Trade Tariff war.
I have heard from a commentator that "probably" the best thing to do would not be to retaliate with counter tariff's instead wait and let the US price increases create their own form of domestic pressure but of course nearly all country will respond with their own tariff's which will just compound the worries anyone has of global recession.
I'm actually surprised about world reaction so far. Only China imposed retaliatory tariffs. And seems that both USA aren't going to stop on this. While rest of world, there is no real reaction, it's only words so far. Now I see that EU is going to impose 10-25% tariffs, but it's not even on all goods. I'm wondering for how long whole this insanity is going to last. I really doubt that this trade tariff war is going to take years. Personally, I'm hoping it will last until American little people start their own businesses locally to depose big-business corruption. 
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Wasn't there a news today that tariff of Trump was paused?
Yeah he did finally chicken out and kinda sorta paused (or lowered to 10%, depending on how you read his illiterate tweet) tariffs for most countries, except China tariff was raised to 125%. It's funny to see all those who were salivating how great the tariffs were now praising Trump that he bravely "fixed" the stock market that he broke himself... what a bunch of feckless idiots. https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114309144289505174
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The coordinated warning shot across President Trumps bow or wig was the synthetic dump after his "independence day" speech. Good time for the muggles to blame Trump for the dump on stocks that were overvalued so that's a bonus. If the next move is a coordinated attack on treasury instruments and the US dollar then get your ration packs because when the redneck driving his pickup has to call his boss some morning saying he can't make it into work because the queue outside the gas station is longer than the journey to work not to mention gas is $20 a gallon it will be already too late and that's before the real war starts. The gamble is too big and the best the MAGA peeps should hope for is a temporary golden age before daddy cool steps back into the fray if a 3rd term is ever mentioned again.
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Looks like Trump is going to have to shut down the Fed just to make things work. He really should place money back under the US Treasury. Somebody will say, then money will have to be backed by gold and silver, so anybody can request G or S for their currency. The answer is the 'satoshi'. There are a limited number of satoshi's in Bitcoin. So, make the dollar be backed by a limited number of 'gold satoshis'... rather than a full ounce to the dollar. I mean, if all the bitcoins that were ever created except one were burned or lost, the one that remained would have to be split into way smaller increments than the satoshi, just so that everybody could have a few pieces. Do it with the gold or silver ounce that backs the dollar, if necessary. 
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heres a hint to the next coordinated play
we seen the season of tariff war.. then we seen stock markets react
the next drama season will be "currency manipulation"
expect movements of the forex rate where people will want to shift value away from fiat and into other hedge-able assets while the forex rates go a little crazy
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