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April 28, 2025, 11:54:43 AM
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Fake news articles are popping up about supposedly stolen funds from a hack that never happened (no reports exist).

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...a suspicious transfer involving 3,520 BTC ($330.7 million) was made from a potential victim,
Shortly after, the funds began moving through more than six instant exchanges and were subsequently
swapped for XMR (Monero). This aggressive activity led to a 50% surge in XMR’s spot price.

Aggressive activity ? or simply a trade ?  Cool

The truth is, investors are not stupid and are simply switching to Monero, which is delivering today rather than endlessly promising to solve everything on L2 that may never arrive.

Hard to believe ? not really.

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April 28, 2025, 12:03:48 PM
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Fake news articles are popping up about supposedly stolen funds from a hack that never happened (no reports exist).

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...a suspicious transfer involving 3,520 BTC ($330.7 million) was made from a potential victim,
Shortly after, the funds began moving through more than six instant exchanges and were subsequently
swapped for XMR (Monero). This aggressive activity led to a 50% surge in XMR’s spot price.

Aggressive activity ? or simply a trade ?  Cool

The truth is, investors are not stupid and are simply switching to Monero, which is delivering today rather than endlessly promising to solve everything on L2 that may never arrive.

Hard to believe ? not really.

/Over&Out.
The news can be true and the reason why the hacker converted the bitcoin worth $330.7m to monero is to aviod the trace of the hacked funds, because if you read the article very well, you will see that the monero was transferred from one exchange to another using six exchanges. All that is to cover their track since monero is decentralized.

If this happens truly, definitely, it will make monero price to surge because pumping $330.7m to monero will increase the value of monero but that would be temporarily, because the hackers will convert their monero back to btc when it gets to the final destination before moving it to their private wallet.

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April 28, 2025, 12:12:44 PM
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I was surprised to see monero rose from $227 today within a short time to $327 before it fall to $258 but now at $273. This could probably be what that happened.

The total supply of monero is 18.44 million XMR. If 3520 BTC is moved and converted to XMR, that is more than 1.22 million XMR supply which is possible to be responsible for the price increase.

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April 28, 2025, 12:13:42 PM
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XMR being used to hide the tracks - seems logical, imo.

And it probably is one of the reasons why its price rocketed for some time to come.
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April 28, 2025, 12:33:43 PM
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I havent see details about a large hack (likewise from zachxbt or other esperts on this matter Roll Eyes )
Price has changes only by 20% and not 50%.
There Is a big difference on these two values...

However I dont know if "whales" "sharks" or whatever are doing this change switching to xmr.
Personally I have many doubts about this and probably we can never known/verify if large trader are completed...

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April 28, 2025, 12:52:52 PM
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I havent see details about a large hack (likewise from zachxbt or other esperts on this matter Roll Eyes )
Price has changes only by 20% and not 50%.
There Is a big difference on these two values...

However I dont know if "whales" "sharks" or whatever are doing this change switching to xmr.
Personally I have many doubts about this and probably we can never known/verify if large trader are completed...

Especially knowing he went for XMR as an option Roll Eyes

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April 28, 2025, 02:37:00 PM
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Aggressive activity ? or simply a trade ?  Cool

With the spike of Monero to about $327.00 and presently trading at $257, the shark move front BTC to XMR doesn't look like a fake news imo. Else, what caused this price rise?

Wouldn't be wrong if we assume that some individual wants to conceal the tracks of his transaction and monero obviously fits in his choice. This absolutely very unusual to be a common trade in anyway.

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April 28, 2025, 03:13:52 PM
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The truth is, investors are not stupid and are simply switching to Monero, which is delivering today rather than endlessly promising to solve everything on L2 that may never arrive.
The best part of it all is that the history of this transaction ends right there thanks to how Monero works.

There are a few things I suspect.  It could even be a bold move of a government or agency to attempt to crack down on Monero again.  If there is one Cryptocurrency they absolutely hate, it is Monero.  As there is no real report of a hack but simply a suspicion, it further makes me believe they are going to try to shoot at Monero in another attempt to collapse it.

If it is what you are calling and investors are simply starting to move to Monero, they are going to be even more enraged.  Imagine most of the big investors moving to a Cryptocurrency they can not control or analyze at all.  They would be boiling mad.

 
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April 28, 2025, 03:42:33 PM
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The best part of it all is that the history of this transaction ends right there thanks to how Monero works.

There are a few things I suspect.  It could even be a bold move of a government or agency to attempt to crack down on Monero again.  If there is one Cryptocurrency they absolutely hate, it is Monero.  As there is no real report of a hack but simply a suspicion, it further makes me believe they are going to try to shoot at Monero in another attempt to collapse it.
It can be but if it happens this way, it will show government have double standard for their regulation.

If Tornado Cash is allowed after all, why Monero is attacked and not allowed. A mixer, a private blockchain is only a tool that can be used for privacy and privacy is one of basic human rights which is universally exists in most nations globally.

By attacking and shutting down mixers and private blockchain for example Monero, it is like an official announcement from government that they are no longer respectful on citizen privacy. This means one of universal human rights is on a way to be revoked or destroyed.

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April 28, 2025, 04:14:38 PM
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Fake news articles are popping up about supposedly stolen funds from a hack that never happened (no reports exist).

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...a suspicious transfer involving 3,520 BTC ($330.7 million) was made from a potential victim,
Shortly after, the funds began moving through more than six instant exchanges and were subsequently
swapped for XMR (Monero). This aggressive activity led to a 50% surge in XMR’s spot price.

Aggressive activity ? or simply a trade ?  Cool

The truth is, investors are not stupid and are simply switching to Monero, which is delivering today rather than endlessly promising to solve everything on L2 that may never arrive.

Hard to believe ? not really.

/Over&Out.

Why is it that people will always suspect of a scam alert whenever there's a whale transaction taken place, we have to know that this does not means everyone seen is as a result of scam or any fraudulent related activities.

Also, the reason to why some are migrating their asset to Monero is only for privacy purpose, since mixing to an extent had been see, as an aboard for stolen coins, but the truth is that not all are stolen and we all need to have our privacy.

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April 28, 2025, 04:34:27 PM
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I havent see details about a large hack (likewise from zachxbt or other esperts on this matter Roll Eyes )
Price has changes only by 20% and not 50%.
There Is a big difference on these two values...

However I dont know if "whales" "sharks" or whatever are doing this change switching to xmr.
Personally I have many doubts about this and probably we can never known/verify if large trader are completed...
Of course identifying if it's Whales or sharks it's a difficulty one, however why would the Whales and sharks move such amount of coins to XMR so sudden instead of letting it remain in BTC, it's points to the fact some Sharp practice has suddenly taken place and Monero XMR gives them that shield, meanwhile something most have caused the sudden surge in price and lot's of fingers are pointed towards one direction. Those hackers will just shield themselves a little while with XMR and later switch those coins to BTC.











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April 28, 2025, 05:37:32 PM
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Probably they live in EU where the regulation is very strict on there, unlike US who're become more friendlier and no more think mixer is a threat them.

Since EU force people to submit identity when they make a big transfer and they hate mixer, Monero is the way even though it's fall to privacy coins, but at least they're private. Not all users who use Monero is mainly for illegal thing, it's the thing that they must know.

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April 28, 2025, 05:46:00 PM
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I was surprised to see monero rose from $227 today within a short time to $327 before it fall to $258 but now at $273. This could probably be what that happened.

The total supply of monero is 18.44 million XMR. If 3520 BTC is moved and converted to XMR, that is more than 1.22 million XMR supply which is possible to be responsible for the price increase.

As the OP said, this Bitcoin hack news is a hoax or fake, but this surge in the Monero price indicates that it was true news and someone really bought XMR after hacking Bitcoin.

However, there are not many details about this hack. How come the hacker was able to extract six different instant exchanges at the same time? Doesn't seems realistic but it is very concerning indeed. Today we saw selling pressure in bitcoin, was it due to this hacker?

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April 28, 2025, 05:47:43 PM
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Who cares? Bitcoin will always be the main game. It is fine to own some monero. I like it too but the majority of my holdings are in bitcoin and lots of people think the same way.

The government will never let monero take off anyway. Many exchanges have already delisted it.

I wouldn’t hodl more than 10% xmr in my crypto portfolio but I also can’t ignore it completely as its privacy features are cool af.

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Why is it that people will always suspect of a scam alert whenever there's a whale transaction taken place, we have to know that this does not means everyone seen is as a result of scam or any fraudulent related activities.

My guess is because nobody smart enough to get their hands on millions of dollars of Bitcoin legally would be dumb enough to trade them for Monero.  Not because Monero isn't great tech, but because it had early inflation issues that make people who hold it now a bit too trusting in what someone claiming to have done an audit says.  Much more likely is that someone scammed a ton of BTC and traded it for Monero thinking they were some anonymous hacking legend.  In reality, they'll massively underperform Bitcoin now and probably end up swapping back to BTC when they realize their money is disappearing.

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April 28, 2025, 07:27:14 PM
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We will see if it's a real investment or a swap for privacy reasons (be the originators criminal or not) in a few days.

Currently we can still not draw the conclusion if it was a "mixing action" or not:


Source: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/monero

The price went up a lot indeed, up to $325. But then gradually it lowered. It's now on ~$250 again, from a $220-30 starting level.

If the swap was done for privacy reasons, I would expect the originator to swap the money back to another cryptocurrency or to fiat. I would thus expect the XMR price to fall below the starting level, i.e. below $220.

The reasoning is the following: After such a big price move, profit taking is expected. So the move down to $250 can be probably fully explained by profit taking. If the person who has driven the price up to $325 wants to swap the whole sum to another (crypto)currency or sell it, this should add additional selling pressure to the profit taking.

I think we need 2-3 days at least, more likely a week or so, to know more.


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The truth is, investors are not stupid and are simply switching to Monero, which is delivering today rather than endlessly promising to solve everything on L2 that may never arrive.
The best part of it all is that the history of this transaction ends right there thanks to how Monero works.

There are a few things I suspect.  It could even be a bold move of a government or agency to attempt to crack down on Monero again.  If there is one Cryptocurrency they absolutely hate, it is Monero.  As there is no real report of a hack but simply a suspicion, it further makes me believe they are going to try to shoot at Monero in another attempt to collapse it.

You are making a point here, there is every tendency that your suspicions are right, looking at what happened to exch after it is clear that the exchange has no hands in what happened and are not aware or in the know of the nature of such transaction happening on their exchange, they were made to shut down and they have been one of the successful exchange that have existed but unfortunately, they will stop existing from May 1st and now a funny but suspicious transaction has taken place on monero that attracting eyes towards their exchange and I would not be surprised to hear a different story tomorrow.




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April 28, 2025, 07:55:41 PM
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In this situation, as far as I understand, Monero was used in a financial scheme (possibly illegal).

However, in my opinion, in the long term, the Monero cryptocurrency is good money. It is a great alternative to cash US dollars. Moreover, after the start of trade wars, the US dollar began to be perceived by many foreign investors as not quite a reliable currency. In particular, its price fell by 10% against the British pound. Investors do not like the uncertainty and lack of trust that are present in the modern world. Therefore, such an anonymous confidential currency as Monero will most likely gradually increase in price further.

The fact that Bitcoin is more and more a part of the modern financial system, the widespread use of KYC and AML procedures, the creation of CBDC, compliance in commercial banks - all this makes people look for alternative solutions.

Monero, in my opinion, can become such an alternative, especially since the coin is fundamentally very undervalued.

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April 28, 2025, 11:58:53 PM
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The strategy makes sense for simple management. To stay safe, always use a trusted, compliant exchange when buying back BTC.
What strategy are you talking about? Do you even read through the entire content of the thread? It's not about using trusted exchange or not but about the possibility of a news item being fake and the swap just being an investor trying to increase their privacy, that's all, and not about trusted exchange and not trusted exchange.

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April 29, 2025, 05:44:01 AM
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The truth is, investors are not stupid and are simply switching to Monero, which is delivering today rather than endlessly promising to solve everything on L2 that may never arrive.
You ruined your attempt at trying to hype XMR bags you are holding here. Next time try to continue to stick to the privacy features of XMR which are better than bitcoin and try to avoid even mentioning scaling since Monero deals with a much more severe scaling problem compared to bitcoin Wink

At the end of the day this is the XMR chart and it looks exactly like any other altcoin. They had their "pumping moment in the sun" back in 2017 and have been dumping consistently ever since.


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