Crypto manipulations

[tottong]

I am active on many exchanges and I see coins that are manipulated almost daily. The more the exchange list more coins, the more you will see more manipulations.

Also most low marketcap coins are very easy to manipulate and they are the ones that the manipulators mostly visit. Those slightly high and high marketcap coins are still not completely resistant to manipulations but low marketcap coins are the riskiest.

That is in line with the making of several coins because that's how they do manipulation for certain interests and are generally carried out on coins that do not have more fundamental quality.
They have been around for a long time but some of us do not recognize and maybe slowly this kind of thing began to be seen clearly because people began to pay attention to the quality of coins.
Do not rush to decide to buy or sell it because it is necessary to make a comprehensive study because otherwise we will get unwanted losses.

Manipulation is the best way to achieve the desired target and if we are not aware of this then will be trapped in coins that do not have a fundamental level.
In the end, someone will experience losses in the process of purchasing certain coins that do not have good fundamentals in the market.

[Oshio-man]

I think there is impart in what you posted op, crypto manipulation market has been on ground long years ago which is the reason some professional traders always advice newbies, to trade with caution because anything can happen for the price to increase higher or to decrease lower, The most important thingin in crypto trading, make sure you achieve income whenever you are trading your crypto.

[maydna]

That will not be a problem for us. We can not stop them. If you want to follow their step on the manipulation of the market, you should know the sign when they want to start. But that will not easy because they can start anytime before we realize.

The market manipulations will be there from a long time ago so we don't have to think seriously. If we don't want to follow the manipulation, we can hold ourselves without doing anything and search for the other coins. It is normal if they search for low marketcap because they can move the price with their power and make people panic.

Those people who panic will not realize this and still wonder and want to join. But the party will be over soon after they start and make them buy at a high price.

[slaman29]

Well, hate to break it to you Osho but markets are manipulated. Crypto is not special, but it might be the one most of manipulation. Hate to say it but thats what you get with regulation, but in most crypto markets, talking about DEX too, where there's no regulation, the manipulation is sometimes even just outright blatant.

You know what tho. People don't complain when price is manipulated to ATH.

[bitgolden]

Coins with low market caps are targeted by pumpers and dumpers, this has been the case for a long time, I even joined their group but groups like this will only benefit paid members who are free and will get trapped because usually paid members already have this coin, there are quite a lot of groups like this, I don't know for now I no longer pay attention to it.

Manipulation in crypto is everywhere even developers are one of the parties who do it, still remember during the ICO the developers dumped the coins when they were listed on the exchange.
It's hard to stop it, the important thing is that we are always careful and tell beginners not to get caught up in this.

Even paid members do not make the most money. First the owners/creators of that group end up putting their money in, then tell the paid ones, then tell the free ones, so it grows, then the owners/creators get out first, then the paid ones, the last ones are the free ones.

That is why we should consider how we could realize that these pump and dumpers are looking into making big mistakes and they should be getting a greater return on all of this and we can actually get a good return if we do it ourselves without needing some owners or creators. Pump and dump is not the way to go, that is not a good way to make money unless you create the group. Focus on making money on real legit stuff that could make you some money.

[shinratensei_]

You know what tho. People don't complain when price is manipulated to ATH.

Agreed with this take.
Altcoin is den of manipulation, it's very rampant and obvious, but for the most part people already know it and they can do nothing about it.
The big whales always the one that controls the price. I mean when most of altcoin allocate 80% of token to insiders, you know something is up .
They can literally lend their coin for market manipulation purpose.

[BlackBoss_]

I have learnt a costly lesson from trading low-cap coins. Nowadays I don't jump in such coins. Whenever I intend to trade, I choose some top coins from the market. Though big coins would be manipulated as well, it's not too easy to do. Also, you won't lose too much when you are trading with big coins in case of manipulation. We know even Bitcoin is manipulated sometimes by the biggest whales, but you will not lose too much from that manipulation.

Manipulations bring chance to experienced people and risk to newbies, so it's not always bad and if you understand the market, you can take advantage of whale manipulation for having some good profit.

Trading low-cap coins is very risky because they mostly have low trading volume and perhaps you entered it when market was hype with high trading volume. Later when you want to exit, trading volume already dropped significantly and if you truly exit, your exit price can be affected by very low trading volume. It means you might lose more than what you want.

It is when you are lucky enough for exit but worse if you jumped into a shitcoin and it died.
How many cryptocurrencies failed?

Remember that even top coins can die.
[url=https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=5430698.0]Don't buy altcoins because they are top altcoins.

[Hyphen(-)]

I think there is impart in what you posted op, crypto manipulation market has been on ground long years ago which is the reason some professional traders always advice newbies, to trade with caution because anything can happen for the price to increase higher or to decrease lower, The most important thingin in crypto trading, make sure you achieve income whenever you are trading your crypto.

Yes, the main reason for the advice to newbies is because of the risk involved, the market is been controlled some influencers especially these alt coins; trading them without any insider information is always risky, and if a newbie jump into trades and end up losing his/her money, they will be discouraged and will abuse crypto trading because of their inexperience that lead them to lose money.

However, if they can stay and learn very well before starting their trading journey, they can use some risk management strategies to help themselves in maximizing their profits and they can avoid losing their capital immediately.

I will advise newbies to focus on trading Bitcoin as a start before they get adequate experience.

[dunfida]

Coins with low market caps are targeted by pumpers and dumpers, this has been the case for a long time, I even joined their group but groups like this will only benefit paid members who are free and will get trapped because usually paid members already have this coin, there are quite a lot of groups like this, I don't know for now I no longer pay attention to it.

Manipulation in crypto is everywhere even developers are one of the parties who do it, still remember during the ICO the developers dumped the coins when they were listed on the exchange.
It's hard to stop it, the important thing is that we are always careful and tell beginners not to get caught up in this.

Even paid members do not make the most money. First the owners/creators of that group end up putting their money in, then tell the paid ones, then tell the free ones, so it grows, then the owners/creators get out first, then the paid ones, the last ones are the free ones.

That is why we should consider how we could realize that these pump and dumpers are looking into making big mistakes and they should be getting a greater return on all of this and we can actually get a good return if we do it ourselves without needing some owners or creators. Pump and dump is not the way to go, that is not a good way to make money unless you create the group. Focus on making money on real legit stuff that could make you some money.

They would be always finding someone to be ending up to be their liquidity and this is why they do trying out to hype it as much as they could because they do know that once that investors or those newbie traders will be that getting hooked up then this will be resulting that huge inflow of funds towards into the project and its true that majority or mainly the dumpers are the team or devs itself and thats why whenever you do touch up on investing into these projects then make it sure on trying to check out the tokenomics. Check out about being renounced, having no tax and other on which there are those tools that could sniff out on what are those errors. Joining up these groups would be looking like interesting and since you are still newbie then you do find yourself that trying to deal up with it or ending up on having that investment. Speaking about manipulations then its normal into the market but these are just that those casual manipulations inside a group and not talking about manipulations about market movements talking about into those top ranking coins.

[slaman29]

You know what tho. People don't complain when price is manipulated to ATH.

Agreed with this take.
Altcoin is den of manipulation, it's very rampant and obvious, but for the most part people already know it and they can do nothing about it.
The big whales always the one that controls the price. I mean when most of altcoin allocate 80% of token to insiders, you know something is up .
They can literally lend their coin for market manipulation purpose.

80% is what I would say conservative We have the most high profile shitcoins doing at least 90% if not 95% when you take into account the locked dates, release dates and the future 'drops' lol

And Trump coin? Even with the whole world watching they managed to rugpull with allocations and releases, and still people fell for it.

But what I meant here is when coins pump (including BTC) to ATH due to manipulation, nobody complains

[gunhell16]

Also most low marketcap coins are very easy to manipulate and they are the ones that the manipulators mostly visit. Those slightly high and high marketcap coins are still not completely resistant to manipulations but low marketcap coins are the riskiest.

These are even happening with famous cex like Binance. Sometimes youll be able to see some tokens that arent much moving before suddenly pumped to 80% to more than 100% thats because probably of cabal whales trying to move it. Ive witness howbsome of these guys pumped a coin and Id say manipulations exists even with top market exchanges. Also with good project that has narrative not only memecoins.

I have seen things like that on other exchanges that I use and even on the old exchanges that I see, I often see things like that on yobit, the daily volume used to be really high
and if there was anything, it was less than $100, after a few months you would be surprised that someone pumped coins and then the volume suddenly increased the price.

It is clear that the developer of yobit himself is probably doing that to entice traders who think that the price on the platform will increase significantly
but suddenly pull back in a short period of time.

[bias]

And Trump coin? Even with the whole world watching they managed to rugpull with allocations and releases, and still people fell for it.

Personally, I find it ridiculous for a country's President to be involved in any coin. That's not his role.
Trump "coin" is another crap from the many for fast money. Devs and first "investors" are the ones who get the most and try to make as much fuss as they can, including manipulation strategies. Every sc team does that, and everybody understands and knows that. However, that doesn't mean that others who joined/ took the risk don't earn and get profit. I get profit from a lot of these craps but I never hodl them and invest long term on them. It's a known game, and it can be profitable as long as we, the "small fishes", don't stay long on them and don't expect to be billionaires in a week. The anticipation and the hope that a sc will reach a huge price is the root of having losses instead of profits.

But what I meant here is when coins pump (including BTC) to ATH due to manipulation, nobody complains

You have to exclude BTC, it's not even near the same situation like tokens and memes and all the craps.
As for the scoins, indeed, nobody complains, but we know that this can't be sustainable in the long term. At some point, it will stop and break down. So, it's not the manipulator's fault if you keep buying a scoin with the hope that it will become BTC. It's greed, and if you can't control it, it's your fault.

[cryptoaddictchie]

I have seen things like that on other exchanges that I use and even on the old exchanges that I see, I often see things like that on yobit, the daily volume used to be really high
and if there was anything, it was less than $100, after a few months you would be surprised that someone pumped coins and then the volume suddenly increased the price.

Yes thats right. They are called whale cabals now and keep playing on big exchanges. Some even waitinf for them to move so other retailers can also ride with the pumped too. However they are operating secretively, Id hear they have group or channel they are doing or prepping for that but that is private. Ow Yobit still alive till now?

[justdimin]

I have seen things like that on other exchanges that I use and even on the old exchanges that I see, I often see things like that on yobit, the daily volume used to be really high
and if there was anything, it was less than $100, after a few months you would be surprised that someone pumped coins and then the volume suddenly increased the price.

It is clear that the developer of yobit himself is probably doing that to entice traders who think that the price on the platform will increase significantly
but suddenly pull back in a short period of time.

Because those places allowed manipulation as a pump and dump, and that is why Binance is the best one because that is rare on binance and they try to limit it as much as they can. Obviously some people would go over it and do a better job than the defensive system, so even on Binance you can see it time to time, but it's not common and rarely happens. We should consider how to make these worse places try to use the same defense, instead of letting it happen for more money.

When there is a pump and dump, some manipulation, that means trading, they trade to manipulate, and when they trade, they leave trading fee, which makes money for the exchange. This is why many exchanges allow it to happen and that's a bad thing to have for an exchange but more money so they accept it and let it happen.

[slaman29]

And Trump coin? Even with the whole world watching they managed to rugpull with allocations and releases, and still people fell for it.

Personally, I find it ridiculous for a country's President to be involved in any coin. That's not his role.
Trump "coin" is another crap from the many for fast money. Devs and first "investors" are the ones who get the most and try to make as much fuss as they can, including manipulation strategies. Every sc team does that, and everybody understands and knows that. However, that doesn't mean that others who joined/ took the risk don't earn and get profit. I get profit from a lot of these craps but I never hodl them and invest long term on them. It's a known game, and it can be profitable as long as we, the "small fishes", don't stay long on them and don't expect to be billionaires in a week. The anticipation and the hope that a sc will reach a huge price is the root of having losses instead of profits.

But what I meant here is when coins pump (including BTC) to ATH due to manipulation, nobody complains

You have to exclude BTC, it's not even near the same situation like tokens and memes and all the craps.
As for the scoins, indeed, nobody complains, but we know that this can't be sustainable in the long term. At some point, it will stop and break down. So, it's not the manipulator's fault if you keep buying a scoin with the hope that it will become BTC. It's greed, and if you can't control it, it's your fault.

But this is exactly what I mean. 2 things. When you profit, as you said, did you complain about manipulation? And did any of those who profit from those manipulations complain? Of course not You appreciate and are thankful that there are possibly ways to manipulate so small fishes can make money of even smaller fishes.

About BTC, you can't exclude it from manipulation. It is not in the same category as other coins OF COURSE but it is still, in some ways prone to manipulation when you are talking about closed ecosystems like a single exchange with orderbooks, where nothing is transparent. ESPECIALLY in futures or other derivatives where price sometimes even goes beyond the actual (BTC) asset.

I'm not talking about faulting manipulators, I'm just pointing out to people here that they shouldn't complain about it when everyone benefits in both ways. So we should just sit back and accept and enjoy being small fish. And if we fall for traps, well, accept it and move on

[Mahanton]

And Trump coin? Even with the whole world watching they managed to rugpull with allocations and releases, and still people fell for it.

Personally, I find it ridiculous for a country's President to be involved in any coin. That's not his role.
Trump "coin" is another crap from the many for fast money. Devs and first "investors" are the ones who get the most and try to make as much fuss as they can, including manipulation strategies. Every sc team does that, and everybody understands and knows that. However, that doesn't mean that others who joined/ took the risk don't earn and get profit. I get profit from a lot of these craps but I never hodl them and invest long term on them. It's a known game, and it can be profitable as long as we, the "small fishes", don't stay long on them and don't expect to be billionaires in a week. The anticipation and the hope that a sc will reach a huge price is the root of having losses instead of profits.

But what I meant here is when coins pump (including BTC) to ATH due to manipulation, nobody complains

You have to exclude BTC, it's not even near the same situation like tokens and memes and all the craps.
As for the scoins, indeed, nobody complains, but we know that this can't be sustainable in the long term. At some point, it will stop and break down. So, it's not the manipulator's fault if you keep buying a scoin with the hope that it will become BTC. It's greed, and if you can't control it, it's your fault.

But this is exactly what I mean. 2 things. When you profit, as you said, did you complain about manipulation? And did any of those who profit from those manipulations complain? Of course not You appreciate and are thankful that there are possibly ways to manipulate so small fishes can make money of even smaller fishes.

About BTC, you can't exclude it from manipulation. It is not in the same category as other coins OF COURSE but it is still, in some ways prone to manipulation when you are talking about closed ecosystems like a single exchange with orderbooks, where nothing is transparent. ESPECIALLY in futures or other derivatives where price sometimes even goes beyond the actual (BTC) asset.

I'm not talking about faulting manipulators, I'm just pointing out to people here that they shouldn't complain about it when everyone benefits in both ways. So we should just sit back and accept and enjoy being small fish. And if we fall for traps, well, accept it and move on

That should be the mentality on which trying out to accept the risks so that whenever loses do hits then you can easily move on and not just that keeping yourself that trying out to go and blaming up about manipulation or whatever reason that you do have in mind. Its true that markets could be manipulative and considering that there are those market makers and with other aspects as like on exchange manipulation with those things you had mentioned on which not everything could be that transparent and thats totally happening in this space. Instead on trying to freak out, it would be better that you should be that wise on how to go with the flow on which same as you said that whenever someone do make money out of those manipulation then there's no complaints or having those negative thoughts blah blah,, but on the time or moment that they have been caught with it, then this is where they will be freaking out like this and that without even trying out to realize that it was just that a common happening on this space. If you do really know on what you are doing then you do just simply skip out and move on if ever you do get caught on loses and proceed into another trade. I do agree on what you have said that we are just that small fishes and for us to be able to survive then you should know on when to dive in and go along with those whales in the market even though it is hard and unpredictable but its impossible that you cant be able to observe and be able to learn on how this market moves or behaves. We cant be perfect since no one really knows on what would happen but it doesnt mean that it will be impossible. It all matters on how you would be handling yourself into this crypto space on which it is truly unpredictable and could be that manipulative but if you do able to go with the flow then it will be something that beneficial and could changed up your life if ever you do have been able to have a good grasps.

[bias]

About BTC, you can't exclude it from manipulation. It is not in the same category as other coins OF COURSE but it is still, in some ways prone to manipulation when you are talking about closed ecosystems like a single exchange with orderbooks, where nothing is transparent. ESPECIALLY in futures or other derivatives where price sometimes even goes beyond the actual (BTC) asset.

I guess that this is something that everyone is aware of. If you see an exchanger like the one you described, then it is your fault if you "believe" what you see and join it, right?
Tokens and memes are far easier to manipulate since most of them don't disclose their true numbers.

I'm not talking about faulting manipulators, I'm just pointing out to people here that they shouldn't complain about it when everyone benefits in both ways. So we should just sit back and accept and enjoy being small fish. And if we fall for traps, well, accept it and move on

It's like you said. We know the traps, we know that all the dev teams will try to manipulate as much as they can their "coin", we know that at some point it will crash. It's up to us to decide when we will exit and if we will rejoin. In any case, winning or losing, we keep moving.

[alastantiger]

When there is a pump and dump, some manipulation, that means trading, they trade to manipulate, and when they trade, they leave trading fee, which makes money for the exchange. This is why many exchanges allow it to happen and that's a bad thing to have for an exchange but more money so they accept it and let it happen.

The exchange do it too because of this same reason as they want to create a buzz around certain projects to bring in traders that'll buy and sell the coins and make them money. The exchanges don't mine if you're winning or losing because despite anyone that you get, you'll be making them money always, this makes them the winner always.

Market manipulation happens more frequently than we think because some of the profits we received are done intentionally by the exchange because you'll now fall for their next tricks when you make a profits from your initial participation. Exchange sometimes take money from some of the projects to make them more popular on their exchange and this can make them to do anything possible to give the project that popularity.

[Ethan_Crypto]

The more the crypto market grow the more difficult it become for it to be manipulated by traders. Full decentralisation is the solution to market manipulation. As long as a single trader holds large amount of BTC or any token it is prone to market manipulation