Trading the market then vs Now...

[irhact]

Yeah seems the dynamics is gradually changing but has not really changed much,Technical analysis and Fundamental still work but just that Fundamental event is on course than the technical side you should have to base your decision making with what is happening around the world, the geopolitical tensions and wars to make precise your decisions. Fundamentals are the key thing right now.

Even if it happens that the dynamics of analysis ever gets to change, it will definitely never change beyond the confines of technical and fundamental analysis, both kind of analysis are like the only categories of analysis know to traders, regardless of the information you have got, it will be either a technical or fundamental information upon which you make a decision to trade , the happenings and the geopolitical tensions are actually part of fundamentals of which will eventually reflect on the chart for which you can choose to apply technical on it before execution of such trade. An analysis can either be technical or fundamental for it to be considered the kind of analysis traders does needs and uses to trade. I don't know if there's any other pattern of trading asides this I would love to know but for now I know that it's only this two and so even with all the changes in dynamics it will still centres  around this.

[Coyster]

This didn't just start now, for a long time investors and traders have used tweets and actions of people who have some kind of influence on the market to make their short term predictions. The thing is, this is usually a short term strategy and as time goes on, those people no longer have as much influence as they did, for example, Elon Musk. Thus traders still use technical and fundamental analysis, particularly when you are looking at the long term.

[Strongkored]

By the way, do you even believe in this change that has happened or do you still believe that fundamentals and technical analysis is still the way to go in trading?.

I still believe in fundamental and technical analysis because successful trading will be supported by these two things.
Indeed, news can influence but for example in 1 year how many times does the market move because of news? So this is only once in a while.
As a trader you must still have the ability to analyze while news is only an additional reference, not the main one.

[passwordnow]

That is what fundamentals are and that's pretty normal in all of the markets. While technical analysis is still the most preference of many traders but then, the narrative changes from time to time about the fundamentals that we're seeing through news. Like now, we're seeing the Israel-Iran-USA war and this narrative has changed the run of the market. There's a sudden plummet that we've seen and we're not enjoying it. But always take note of what Warren Buffett told about bloods in the streets. And that's where people should be focusing with, although we sympathy on the victims of this war and we don't want them to feel bad of how it goes. But if it's just the market alone, you need to be laser-focused on the accumulation process still.

[mirakal]

This didn't just start now, for a long time investors and traders have used tweets and actions of people who have some kind of influence on the market to make their short term predictions. The thing is, this is usually a short term strategy and as time goes on, those people no longer have as much influence as they did, for example, Elon Musk. Thus traders still use technical and fundamental analysis, particularly when you are looking at the long term.

Yes, this could have started before but the thing is, the influence before is not that extreme, unlike today even Trump’s date of inauguration is expected to have a price surge in the market. However, I know this kind of strategy may not last forever. Fundamental and technical analysis are still the most basic and reliable ways when trading, it’s just that today, they‘re quite underrated.

[Ojima-ojo]

Trump's speech is really affecting bitcoin price, that is still fundamental analysis. I do not like how bitcoin is reacting to the war in Iran like this but I think people think it might lead to world war 3.

Forget about that world war 3 theorists and propagandists, the impact on Bitcoin will definitely be a short term impact, this is so true because I the previous time when Russia and Ukraine war started, we saw how Bitcoin market react to it,but withina short period of crisis in the market, Bitcoin was able to reband and touched new all time highs.

[_BlackStar]

By the way, do you even believe in this change that has happened or do you still believe that fundamentals and technical analysis is still the way to go in trading?

Even though Trump can influence the market - but the market is not entirely dependent on him. Traders still have to analyze both technically and fundamentally - but all of them are never a guarantee that market changes can occur for various reasons. We all know that price volatility can be influenced by various factors - even the fact that good and bad news can also change the direction of price movements in the past.

I'm not saying Trump can control the market to the point of manipulation - but people act too much on everything he says. Elon Musk also influenced the market a while ago - but his power faded over time and others emerged. Trump is very controversial in the eyes of market participants these days - but the market can't be determined by him.

[tvplus006]

...technical and fundamentals analysis doesn't mean much anymore, most traders just wait to know what the US president says or does next to determine their next line of action regarding their trading decision...

I do not agree with this statement, since the news generated by Trump is a catalyst for further price movement in the market, but we know its direction in advance thanks to technical analysis.
I adhere to the concept that "News follows the chart, not the other way around".

[tygeade]

That's why there are lots of bots that are running 24/7 just waiting for some tweets or any social media posts from popular people such as Donald Trump, before I remember Elon Musk where even whatever he tweet, the market really reacts.

News do shape the sentiment and the bias, so to speak, with which investors look at the market (or may look), but analysis is still needed nevertheless, because news are short-term effects, so to speak, and we look at the broader picture and see that.. they are not the triggers, the true one, big ones.

When you look at the news, you are analysing already. This is called as fundamental analysis. You will also look or analyse the chart after it. That one is called as technical analysis. There are news that cause a long-term effect too and there are also updates about them. News can be one of the triggers and can cause for the effect to widen.

Bots are one cause of the reaction but they can be annoying because before we do the action and benefit, they already did it. We are lucky if we still get a few. Bots are everywhere. They are even on the shopping app that I'm using. They are taking advantage of the rush hour where you can get the item for a lesser cost.

[Hyphen(-)]

By the way, do you even believe in this change that has happened or do you still believe that fundamentals and technical analysis is still the way to go in trading?.

I believe that trading then is different from trading now because the crypto market is now been controlled by many big influencers, they controlled the market to their test because they have invested heavily in crypto market and they tends to control the market to their test because of their influence.

I don’t like the way crypto market is turning into, even Bitcoin is now looking like centralized systems because small influence in any news do cause the market a lot of trouble which do always lead to lose of money especially for traders.

Only people that are strongly connected do make money from cryptocurrency, having firsthand information is very important because developers are our main problem, they tends to control the market to their own advantage.

[Natalim]

This didn't just start now, for a long time investors and traders have used tweets and actions of people who have some kind of influence on the market to make their short term predictions. The thing is, this is usually a short term strategy and as time goes on, those people no longer have as much influence as they did, for example, Elon Musk. Thus traders still use technical and fundamental analysis, particularly when you are looking at the long term.

The importance of using technical and fundamental analysis in trading has actually never gone, it’s only the people who tried to adopt additional strategy that they think will work more on their trades effectively. That is by seeing those tweets made by VIPs, and seeing the current news and trends that will leave an impact to the trading market. But all these things will only create a short term effect.

If you want to focus on long term approach with trading, stick with its fundamental and technical analysis, you will never go wrong with your trades, as long as you also have patience to do that.

[Jegileman]

By the way, do you even believe in this change that has happened or do you still believe that fundamentals and technical analysis is still the way to go in trading?.

The news of Trump in the market is a fundamental news and so, we cannot allow our knowledge of the fundamental market not be put in place in this circumstance. Fundamental news when understood well will make you to have a better understanding of the market and make good decisions to hour advantage as a trader. It is good to always treat them both equally and know when to apply each in the market because of their importance. One thing I notice in the market is that Fundamental news are always ahead of technical analysis when it comes to have effect in the market. It is good to learn both but always give respect to fundamental news and effect it in your trade more than the technical analysis when they happen to clash.

[justdimin]

Trading back then used to be based on how good one is with technical and fundamental analysis, profiting from trading back then used to depend on how good one is with the analysis and also how good the trader is with use of market and price prediction tools.

I am sure that even in old days, traders needed to check all the news around crypto space to conform that their technical are working as per their prediction. So, I do not agree that in old days, traders follow only all types of analysis and not following news. Still, these days, social media are highly influencing crypto space but I believe that must be a newer way for all those manipulators; in such situation I recommend to stay away from trading rather than chasing behind both technical and news at a time. 

do you even believe in this change that has happened or do you still believe that fundamentals and technical analysis is still the way to go in trading?.

Yeah, technical analysis is more than enough all the times. News are short living, market sentiment will switch over to new things always but fundamental will always persist. If you follow only your analysis then you will exit at your target or stoploss; both are part of every traders' life.

[LogitechMouse]

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and I can't help but ask if this is the new way to trade?

By the way, do you even believe in this change that has happened or do you still believe that fundamentals and technical analysis is still the way to go in trading?.

Well, fundamentals and technical are still a big help when you're trading, and besides, Trump's decisions might move the markets, but he isn't doing it on a daily or weekly basis. He's doing it anytime he wants.

Imagine your a trader that makes trade only when Trump make a decision, and he made one for the whole month. That's many opportunities that he lost just because he made the wrong decision. Sure, Trump's decision made a significant price movement on Bitcoin and other altcoins, but trading on it alone is simply not the way. Technical analysis is still the way. Fundamental analysis work as well. It all depends on what the trader is using, and what works for them.

I still believe that fundamentals and technical are the way, and not Trump's decisions. Don't focus on his decisions and tweets, but instead focus on what's being given to us by the charts.

[masulum]

Yeah, technical analysis is more than enough all the times. News are short living, market sentiment will switch over to new things always but fundamental will always persist. If you follow only your analysis then you will exit at your target or stoploss; both are part of every traders' life.

We cannot separate fundamental and technical analysis, because technical analysis is based on market movements, and fundamentals have an influence to change market movements. What you said is true, we cannot separate the two, because if we miss important fundamentals, then our position may no longer be in accordance with the current market. Either we take profit too quickly, or we are too late to do a stop loss.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Yeah this was so true. People now get a signal from hype Like Donald Trump related news. Once he posted something good or related to crypto the market moves in mysterious way. Gone are the days that we let some of our imagination run wild with charts and potential movement now. Just check which news is vital and use that as reference and eventually you win a trade.

[SOKO-DEKE]

Yes, the rate at which people were making profits from trading those days with their technical analysis is not the same as the rate people are making profits nowadays with their technical analysis. Now, a speech from one person can change everything in the crypto industry. Like recently, if Trump gives a speech, it is always reacted to by the crypto market, and before, it was not like that. So, these days, if a trader is not careful, it can end in losing everything just with one piece of news.

If any trader always wants to make profits from trading, they have to always get information very fast. That is the only way to make reasonable profits from trading. But the truth is that not all news always reacts to the crypto market. When there was war between Iran and Israel, many people thought that the war would affect the crypto market that much, especially Bitcoin. But it did not affect it the way people were thinking, especially during the period when the USA attacked Iran some people awas expecting bitcoin will be down to $80k.

[yudi09]

Trading then vs trading now..

By the way, do you even believe in this change that has happened or do you still believe that fundamentals and technical analysis is still the way to go in trading?.

I can understand what this picture means is the changes in trading that result from news and decisions made by influential people in the positions they occupy.
It is still within the fundamental aspect and it feels like a change that is currently underway.
Fundamentals and technicals are still a great way of trading and I still experience that.

[alastantiger]

Yeah this was so true. People now get a signal from hype Like Donald Trump related news. Once he posted something good or related to crypto the market moves in mysterious way. Gone are the days that we let some of our imagination run wild with charts and potential movement now. Just check which news is vital and use that as reference and eventually you win a trade.

The goals of trading is to make money hence if we're doing that then the means we use in doing it doesn't really matter as far they're not illegal or inhuman. We follow the tweets of the president because he's an influencer individual and since he's one of the biggest voices in support for the market, the market tends to react to anything he says and although that isn't good for the market but as traders, we can take advantage of this and make money which isn't bad. Trading the market has gone beyond the traditional way we use to know and that's because the market is evolving and as traders, we have to stay up to date with the market trends to make profits then later invest in the projects that can stand the test of time like Bitcoin and few others.

[Asiska02]

We've seen of late especially since the Trump declared support for Bitcoin way back before he was voted for and installed as the US president, the movement of price of Bitcoin have been largerly centered on his statements and actions, technical and fundamentals analysis doesn't mean much anymore, most traders just wait to know what the US president says or does next to determine their next line of action regarding their trading decision, and I can't help but ask if this is the new way to trade?

Information in trading is also vital for you to win in that space. I saw somewhere someone predicting the bitcoin market now to be; when Elon Musk is releasing statement against Donald Trump, the market begins to dump and you should just short the market that time and when they are done criticising each other on X, then the market will continue to pump again. I don’t know how effective and truthful what he said is but the market is actually seems to be behaving that way and those that have mastered it that way will get to profit from the market during that period.

By the way, do you even believe in this change that has happened or do you still believe that fundamentals and technical analysis is still the way to go in trading?.

Fundamentals analysis are just what we see happening in the market when Trump make as statement and the market reacts to it immediately. Technical analysis still works but it seems when a news is coming from Trump, it is better you trade in the direction in which the news with alternate the market to at the time, it is better for you as a trader and also a means to take advantage of the happenings around the market while he’s still making that effect.