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December 14, 2025, 09:33:56 PM
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The project is BTC pre version 30 core spamware edition. It is not BCH. It would make no sense to switch the DA as soon as one difficult period shows up, saying so is to suggest Satoshi's code is flawed which we know it is not. There were days  and days of discussions about it in the community, we overall felt like it would go against the spirit of the project to alter Satoshi's code in that way, again it is not supposed to be BCH, it's BTC.

You can say what you like about the dev/community but 99% of the people involved on discord, X and Reddit have been extremely insightful, helpful and decent people. Haven't seen many communities in the space recently that I could say the same about, and to be honest it reminds me of early BTC. They've worked through every issue that has appeared as well as could be expected.

The last time I got involved with anything like this was BTC in 2012, people thought it was a scam back then. BC2 has a lot of promise especially for Bitcoiners who want less spam and the same proven code that Satoshi gave us all
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December 20, 2025, 05:43:45 PM
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The project is BTC pre version 30 core spamware edition. It is not BCH. It would make no sense to switch the DA as soon as one difficult period shows up, saying so is to suggest Satoshi's code is flawed which we know it is not. There were days  and days of discussions about it in the community, we overall felt like it would go against the spirit of the project to alter Satoshi's code in that way, again it is not supposed to be BCH, it's BTC.

You can say what you like about the dev/community but 99% of the people involved on discord, X and Reddit have been extremely insightful, helpful and decent people. Haven't seen many communities in the space recently that I could say the same about, and to be honest it reminds me of early BTC. They've worked through every issue that has appeared as well as could be expected.

The last time I got involved with anything like this was BTC in 2012, people thought it was a scam back then. BC2 has a lot of promise especially for Bitcoiners who want less spam and the same proven code that Satoshi gave us all

Bitcoin has already evolved far beyond its early implementations, including changes made by Satoshi himself. You can’t credibly claim that a pre-v30 snapshot represents some fixed "original vision" when Bitcoin was always designed to adapt. Also, the idea that changing the difficulty adjustment algorithm implies Satoshi’s code was "flawed" is misplaced. DAAs have already been modified in Bitcoin’s history to respond to real-world conditions.

We’ve also seen this play out before. Bitcoin-SV attempted the same "frozen protocol / original vision" narrative and effectively removed itself from relevance. Bitcoin Cash made substantial changes and, despite real adoption and infrastructure, still sits orders of magnitude below Bitcoin in price, hashpower, and trust. Albeit, BCH seems to be gathering some attention again with the recent difficulty increase.

No fork or derivative has ever replaced Bitcoin, and none have even come close to matching its monetary value. Regardless of intent, BC2 will be perceived as just another altcoin by the broader market. That means it becomes something people will just mine, speculate on, and rotate back into BTC, just like every other altcoin.

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December 25, 2025, 09:13:30 PM
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Yes BTC was altered by Satoshi, he even didn't mind the idea of block size changing to fit the size of the network if it was needed. Clearly he was not against changing the protocol, however the DAA has NEVER been altered in BTC in it's entire history, so I'm not sure why you claim it has been. Again altering the DAA DOES suggest Satoshi's code is flawed, as it's the same DAA that is used in modern BTC, same as BC2. BCH and the fork BSV both claimed to have the answer to "improving" Satoshi's code by altering the DAA with ASERT, those are forks from BTC though not a relaunch of the original protocol with a fresh genesis block. Satoshi made BTC open source for a reason, he made the DAA the way it is for a reason. Satoshi HATED spam in all forms in every way, you cannot claim that he'd find the modern spamCore team's v30 version as legit if you read his thoughts on spam. We can see his emails and how he felt about spam now, they were released during the BSV court trial. It's not like we don't know what he was thinking when he was creating BTC in the early days now, the emails are available to everyone. Again, the DAA in BCH has changed many times, BTC DAA has never been altered. Changing it would yes suggest Satoshi's code is flawed, which again we know now over a decade later that it is not flawed.
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