Has US government really started Bitcoin investment reserve.

[promise444c5]

Do you really believe USA have upto that amount..
There was a report claiming they had less than that amount which they declared , meaning they might already sold  most of it over the years..
The least people you want to trust when they make declarations are the government and it bodies… but yeah you can just assume they hold whatever value they claim they hold

[Die_empty]

Do you really believe USA have upto that amount..
There was a report claiming they had less than that amount which they declared , meaning they might already sold  most of it over the years..
The least people you want to trust when they make declarations are the government and it bodies… but yeah you can just assume they hold whatever value they claim they hold

Assets owned by a nation are not sold secretly. There are statutory procedures that must be followed before such an asset is sold. If the US government wants to sell Bitcoin, the US Marshals Service will announce to the public that the state's Bitcoin is to be auctioned, and people will be given time to bid for the asset. The highest bidder gets the coin.

Since Donald Trump took office, there have not been such announcements by the Marshals Service about disposing of seized Bitcoin.  So we can conclude that, based on available information, the last time the US sold Bitcoin was during the administration of Joe Biden.

[X-ray]

Even if they didn't buy but keeping the confiscated bitcoin and considers bitcoin as a reserve that's already a big win for me.

Governments might still think that buying bitcoin isn't the way to go because they have good amount of confiscated bitcoin but since bitcoin is really good at capital growth eventually they'd realize bitcoin is deserving to be the real reserve.

Of course, I hope i will find a news about governments across the world buying bitcoin in the future and i'm positive it will happen.

[BlackBoss_]

Even if they didn't buy but keeping the confiscated bitcoin and considers bitcoin as a reserve that's already a big win for me.

Governments might still think that buying bitcoin isn't the way to go because they have good amount of confiscated bitcoin but since bitcoin is really good at capital growth eventually they'd realize bitcoin is deserving to be the real reserve.

Of course, I hope i will find a news about governments across the world buying bitcoin in the future and i'm positive it will happen.

They have not bought any bitcoins with their national money yet but if they have mindset of storing confiscated bitcoins as their national treasury, it's their good start. From this mindset-changing action, they can do something further helpful for Bitcoin market by buying bitcoins directly on the market. They can look at the tough and crowded race among many Bitcoin Spot ETF instutional investors to see how hard the race is.

The advantage belongs to early comers, early buyers when there are still more bitcoins appear each block in Bitcoin block subsidy, and surely price will be better for early comers. It is true from individual investors, institutional investors to national investors too and I believe that governments know that. It's only congressional challenge and barriers to make such big national treasury changes in their nations.

[Die_empty]

Even if they didn't buy but keeping the confiscated bitcoin and considers bitcoin as a reserve that's already a big win for me.

Governments might still think that buying bitcoin isn't the way to go because they have good amount of confiscated bitcoin but since bitcoin is really good at capital growth eventually they'd realize bitcoin is deserving to be the real reserve.

Of course, I hope i will find a news about governments across the world buying bitcoin in the future and i'm positive it will happen.

One might claim that the idea of using seized Bitcoin as the source of the US Bitcoin reserve is not a bad one. At least they are not selling the coins like the previous government. It is also true that the US has the right to devise any means to keep increasing its Bitcoin holdings. However to me it shows some level of unwillingness to take the reserve seriously. If the government feels that Bitcoin is a worthy asset to be kept as a reserve, they should be willing to buy or mine it. Having the mindset of topping up their reserve with confiscated assets may lead to more attacks on decentralised platforms.

Some nations are also looking up to the US. My assumption is that more nations will buy and hold Bitcoin as a reserve if the US take the first step. There are many proposed Bitcoin reserve bills in some legislative houses around the world that might gain support if the US purchases Bitcoin for its reserve. 

[Smack That Ace]

That's right, the US does not invest in bitcoin nor does it actually own any bitcoin strategic reserves. They can't say they are the biggest bitcoin investor just by confiscating other people's bitcoins, nor will they become bitcoin or cryptocurrency advocates that way.

If confiscated coins or any assets by their law can be sold for their national treasury, but they see potential of Bitcoin and don't sell those confiscated coins but hold these coins for their national treasury, I see it is reasonable to consider it as an investment.

It's only different that they did not purchase bitcoin, but rather than sell it on the market like other governments did, they hold it for treasury and potential profit in the long term. It's unprecedented governmental strategy and action, but it's fair for considering it as investment, just indirectly and in a way dislikes by criminals.

They can call it an investment and by their definition it is a valid investment.

But by the general definition of investment, an investment is something bought with the expectation that the price will increase and that a profit will be made in the future. They need to have strategies and plans to minimize risks. But in this case, the US loses almost nothing and faces no risk even if bitcoin falls to 0. They also have almost no strategy, they just temporarily hold it before auctioning it.

So in my opinion, this is merely a coercive action, not a real investment purpose. Confiscation and investment are two different concepts.

[fuguebtc]

Do you really believe USA have upto that amount..
There was a report claiming they had less than that amount which they declared , meaning they might already sold  most of it over the years..
The least people you want to trust when they make declarations are the government and it bodies… but yeah you can just assume they hold whatever value they claim they hold

Assets owned by a nation are not sold secretly. There are statutory procedures that must be followed before such an asset is sold. If the US government wants to sell Bitcoin, the US Marshals Service will announce to the public that the state's Bitcoin is to be auctioned, and people will be given time to bid for the asset. The highest bidder gets the coin.

Since Donald Trump took office, there have not been such announcements by the Marshals Service about disposing of seized Bitcoin.  So we can conclude that, based on available information, the last time the US sold Bitcoin was during the administration of Joe Biden.

Yes, if the US government wants to sell seized assets, they need to do it publicly and it all goes up for auction. Also, they can easily sell them without any difficulty, but someone complains and denounces. They also need court permission, DOJ will not be able to arbitrarily auction if the dispute is not resolved.

Like the $2 billion worth of bitcoin that was sold under the Biden administration. The government was only allowed to sell after the Supreme Court and the Northern District Court of California allowed it after the courts dismissed a complaint by Battle Born Investments.

[AprilioMP]

Even if they didn't buy but keeping the confiscated bitcoin and considers bitcoin as a reserve that's already a big win for me.

Governments might still think that buying bitcoin isn't the way to go because they have good amount of confiscated bitcoin but since bitcoin is really good at capital growth eventually they'd realize bitcoin is deserving to be the real reserve.

Of course, I hope i will find a news about governments across the world buying bitcoin in the future and i'm positive it will happen.

America, with its Bitcoin holdings, already has a sound plan for facing future economic challenges. They realize that Bitcoin can help them when the value of fiat currencies declines, and Bitcoin can be a solution to address global challenges.

I'm trying to convince myself that America will be fully prepared if Bitcoin one day becomes a usable currency, like cash alongside fiat currencies. This is my mindset, not a certainty.

[Fara Chan]

America, with its Bitcoin holdings, already has a sound plan for facing future economic challenges. They realize that Bitcoin can help them when the value of fiat currencies declines, and Bitcoin can be a solution to address global challenges.

I'm trying to convince myself that America will be fully prepared if Bitcoin one day becomes a usable currency, like cash alongside fiat currencies. This is my mindset, not a certainty.

While it's not a certainty, what you're thinking is probably already happening to others. Because if we look at the current global economic trajectory, it's not wrong to think that way. Every country that already has economic power and is still interested in developing any technology to be marketed globally has certainly already thought about this for the sake of its future economic strength. Bitcoin has indeed been eyed by many developed countries, so America itself doesn't want to be left behind in this regard if one day its dollar depreciates globally.

[sunsilk]

So with all this it is believed that the US government has a Bitcoin reserve already in place.

That is for sure because whatever they do, they're doing it advanced and earlier than the said plan and bill of the reserve.

They have it planned for so long and before they have made it into reality, they've got the actual bitcoin reserves already from several sources.

Like the seized Bitcoins and also the budget that they have allotted for buying it during the dips. If we think that we're smarter than them, they're simply laughing in a place where they've done things already.

[Danica22]

America, with its Bitcoin holdings, already has a sound plan for facing future economic challenges. They realize that Bitcoin can help them when the value of fiat currencies declines, and Bitcoin can be a solution to address global challenges.

I'm trying to convince myself that America will be fully prepared if Bitcoin one day becomes a usable currency, like cash alongside fiat currencies. This is my mindset, not a certainty.

While it's not a certainty, what you're thinking is probably already happening to others. Because if we look at the current global economic trajectory, it's not wrong to think that way. Every country that already has economic power and is still interested in developing any technology to be marketed globally has certainly already thought about this for the sake of its future economic strength. Bitcoin has indeed been eyed by many developed countries, so America itself doesn't want to be left behind in this regard if one day its dollar depreciates globally.

If their dollar loses value or the world starts using another currency instead of USD. That means either the US dominance is over or worse their economy will collapse. Do you think America will let that happen? Are they so stupid as to not try to save the dollar and instead support a currency they have no control over? I don't think they are that stupid.

That scenario is unlikely. America, China or any superpower wants its currency to be the world's common currency, no one wants to support a currency that is not controlled by them.

[Nwada001]

They have a bitcoin reserve in place, but they are not investing in bitcoin. They said they won't use their taxpayers' money to invest in bitcoin, nor will they approve using part of the gold reserve for such, as it was speculated back then. What the USA is doing is an illegal way of stealing at some point; instead of returning seized and confiscated coins to the victim, their new law allows them to take in such money into their reserve.

[Ojima-ojo]

Fact is that, the United States Bitcoin reserve policy cant be said to be a direct adoption of Bitcoin if their are only setting aside the seized Bitcoin in they possession, is not making sense at all, the United States government could have directly bought their Bitcoin reserve and keep the seized Bitcoin as reference for future legal issues.

Not all the seized Bitcoin that are illegal and in the future the owners will come up with legal means to reclaim they seized assets,.
Earnings/salaries put in Bitcoin is investment in the real Sense, since time is essential economic commodity, unlike seized asset's that is subject to legal battles.

If I should find a way to continuously earn bitcoin, why buying it? I just want you to reason the analogy and understand why US is not under any compulsion to buy bitcoin. The most important thing is that they have endorsed it and lighten all the laws against it. They don't need to buy before you take them seriously.

Buying it will be better. After it was announced that only confiscated bitcoin will be used, bitcoin price and other altcoins prices dropped significantly at the time because people expected more.

At least, United States can invest trillion dollars on bitcoin.

For instance, you are in the forum and you are earning bitcoin weekly, from your earning, you kept investing in bitcoin and someone says you are only serious when you buy bitcoin with your fiat. Why  buy it if you earn it?

I still work to earn the bitcoin, that is totally different. Some people can argue that the bitcoin they earn through signature campaign is like a wage or a salary. That means United States can invest from the money they earn to buy bitcoin also.

[Swordsoffreedom]

So with all this it is believed that the US government has a Bitcoin reserve already in place.

That is for sure because whatever they do, they're doing it advanced and earlier than the said plan and bill of the reserve.

They have it planned for so long and before they have made it into reality, they've got the actual bitcoin reserves already from several sources.

Like the seized Bitcoins and also the budget that they have allotted for buying it during the dips. If we think that we're smarter than them, they're simply laughing in a place where they've done things already.

The idea of ​​a strategic bitcoin reserve has only been talked about since the 2024 election, and Trump was the first to bring it up. The idea was never mentioned in the Biden administration or even during Trump's first term.


Furthermore, they only use the confiscated bitcoins to turn them into strategic reserves. They have never spent money to buy more bitcoins and as far as I know, they have no plans to do so in the near future.


There have been many ideas and proposals about buying more bitcoins such as selling gold, using taxpayers' money, but so far, all of those ideas are not feasible. They don't dare admit it, but the truth is, they have no way to buy more bitcoins.

[sunsilk]

So with all this it is believed that the US government has a Bitcoin reserve already in place.

That is for sure because whatever they do, they're doing it advanced and earlier than the said plan and bill of the reserve.

They have it planned for so long and before they have made it into reality, they've got the actual bitcoin reserves already from several sources.

Like the seized Bitcoins and also the budget that they have allotted for buying it during the dips. If we think that we're smarter than them, they're simply laughing in a place where they've done things already.

The idea of ​​a strategic bitcoin reserve has only been talked about since the 2024 election, and Trump was the first to bring it up. The idea was never mentioned in the Biden administration or even during Trump's first term.


Furthermore, they only use the confiscated bitcoins to turn them into strategic reserves. They have never spent money to buy more bitcoins and as far as I know, they have no plans to do so in the near future.


There have been many ideas and proposals about buying more bitcoins such as selling gold, using taxpayers' money, but so far, all of those ideas are not feasible. They don't dare admit it, but the truth is, they have no way to buy more bitcoins.

I think there was an official that have proposed to allot a budget so that they can have more Bitcoins. I forgot the exact statement from that government official in a state in the US but that was a woman official.

We'll see if they have already spent some or sold some of their other assets so that they can have more of it.

Because if it's already in the law and made a plan out of it, there has to be an execution of it. Otherwise, they're already good with the seized ones.

[Alpha Marine]

I don't know if we can call that a strategic bitcoin reserve, but if they call it that, then it's fine. Congress need to pass the law before it becomes a strategic reserve. It's the same for every other reserve, so Bitcoin won't be different. This was just a decree the president made, meaning it can be undone by another government.

Do you really believe USA have upto that amount..
There was a report claiming they had less than that amount which they declared , meaning they might already sold  most of it over the years..

These things are not things that are hidden or difficult to verify. There is no reason for them to lie about things like this because if they inflate the amount and someone verifies, and the numbers don't match, that could cause a different problem altogether.
Also, they cant sell it without anybody knowing. They cant quietly sell it off. It's state fund, so it cant be done I secret. Also, its the blockchaine, how are they going to do it that people wont see?

[fuguebtc]

I don't know if we can call that a strategic bitcoin reserve, but if they call it that, then it's fine. Congress need to pass the law before it becomes a strategic reserve. It's the same for every other reserve, so Bitcoin won't be different. This was just a decree the president made, meaning it can be undone by another government.

Exactly, this is just an executive order and Trump has named it a strategic bitcoin reserve. But in reality, it is not a national strategic reserve. National reserves must be approved by Congress and are managed by the Fed, and are often referred to as "Acts" like the GENIUS Act they passed.
Trump could also repeal that executive order and sell bitcoin if he wanted, without having to wait for the next administration.

Do you really believe USA have upto that amount..
There was a report claiming they had less than that amount which they declared , meaning they might already sold  most of it over the years..

These things are not things that are hidden or difficult to verify. There is no reason for them to lie about things like this because if they inflate the amount and someone verifies, and the numbers don't match, that could cause a different problem altogether.
Also, they cant sell it without anybody knowing. They cant quietly sell it off. It's state fund, so it cant be done I secret. Also, its the blockchaine, how are they going to do it that people wont see?

In simpler terms, power in the United States is a separation of powers, power is not concentrated in a single person or agency. So almost everything in the United States needs to be more transparent and open, so that people can monitor each other and prevent abuse of power. There is no way they can hide or quietly sell bitcoin or national reserve assets.

[Rustam Meraj]

This news is a huge change in US policy, and it directly answers to doubt that the government would ever invest in Bitcoin. Most important is fact that President Trump signed Executive Order on March 6, 2025, which is named Start of Strategic Bitcoin Reserve and United States Digital Asset Stockpile. This will move government past just talk of support as he has done with his Bitcoin is going to moon remark to creation of real, official system of crypto asset holding. Now this reserve is being paid for with Bitcoin taken by criminals and all government agencies are now told to send seized crypto to this new national stockpile and this is confirmation that US government has truly made Bitcoin reserve.

[yhiaali3]

United States has already passed the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve Act, and it's in effect in some states. However, the problem is that they haven't bought Bitcoin and don't intend to.

The Act stipulates that the Strategic Reserve will be funded by Bitcoin seized from criminals, money launderers, or similar sources. I recall a bill proposed by a member of Congress to sell US gold reserves to purchase Bitcoin, but it wasn't passed.

While I wish they had bought Bitcoin, the positive aspect is that they won't be selling the seized Bitcoin, which will have a positive impact on the market in the long run.

[AprilioMP]

America, with its Bitcoin holdings, already has a sound plan for facing future economic challenges. They realize that Bitcoin can help them when the value of fiat currencies declines, and Bitcoin can be a solution to address global challenges.

I'm trying to convince myself that America will be fully prepared if Bitcoin one day becomes a usable currency, like cash alongside fiat currencies. This is my mindset, not a certainty.

While it's not a certainty, what you're thinking is probably already happening to others. Because if we look at the current global economic trajectory, it's not wrong to think that way. Every country that already has economic power and is still interested in developing any technology to be marketed globally has certainly already thought about this for the sake of its future economic strength. Bitcoin has indeed been eyed by many developed countries, so America itself doesn't want to be left behind in this regard if one day its dollar depreciates globally.

And they merely use Bitcoin as an asset to hedge inequality, not as a currency. Only El Salvador has made Bitcoin legal tender, even though we know from the media that El Salvador and the IMF have already begun to comply.
Sometimes, if we think long and hard, the concept of making Bitcoin legal tender is a good one to implement because it doesn't abandon fiat.

Every era has its challenges, and economic challenges will never end. Glancing at Bitcoin is like glancing at someone else's wife. Lol