|
mixmaster
|
 |
September 10, 2015, 06:44:51 PM |
|
This has been on repeat for over 6 months now...
Are you seriously trying to say there is no or only little progress at NEM? lol 
|
|
|
|
|
|
dandruff1138
|
 |
September 10, 2015, 07:32:32 PM |
|
This has been on repeat for over 6 months now...
Are you seriously trying to say there is no or only little progress at NEM? lol  I see lots of talk about progress but nothing substantial has actually been done. BTC is sliding, NEM is slipping right with it. I know you don;t like to talk about value but this is A C U R R E N C Y... haha 100 XEM= $0.01 USD and going down. All those who invested are losing, and people will say it is a long term investment, and those are either echoing the losers of yesterday or are new to the crypto game. 
|
|
|
|
|
mixmaster
|
 |
September 10, 2015, 09:06:00 PM |
|
I see lots of talk about progress but nothing substantial has actually been done. Namespaces and Mosaic is a pretty far on the testnet and that is a big progress in my opinion. BTC is sliding, NEM is slipping right with it. I know you don;t like to talk about value but this is A C U R R E N C Y... haha 100 XEM= $0.01 USD and going down. All those who invested are losing, and people will say it is a long term investment, and those are either echoing the losers of yesterday or are new to the crypto game.  BTC is a currency, but it tries to keep up with the new high tech blockchain platform solutions which are out there and that fails. Thats like tuning an old car again and again and again... NEM is no currency, it is a platform and its features are still in development. XEM (the currency) is one small part of NEM. And yes, value of XEM is low right now, because development is ongoing and not done yet. People don't invest too much if stuff is not done yet, understandable. It takes time, NEM is a long term project, everybody who is into NEM knows that.
|
|
|
|
|
nzminer
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1001
|
 |
September 10, 2015, 09:25:24 PM |
|
This has been on repeat for over 6 months now...
Are you seriously trying to say there is no or only little progress at NEM? lol  I see lots of talk about progress but nothing substantial has actually been done. BTC is sliding, NEM is slipping right with it. I know you don;t like to talk about value but this is A C U R R E N C Y... haha 100 XEM= $0.01 USD and going down. All those who invested are losing, and people will say it is a long term investment, and those are either echoing the losers of yesterday or are new to the crypto game.  Of course all crypto is a LONG TERM GAME!  Do you really think that is a get rich quick scheme? Those that do are the ones that will get burnt! Where will BTC be in 5 years? Where will NEM or other superior currencies be in the next 5-10 years? The answer is simple, but ill let you figure that one out.
|
NEM, THE SECURE, SCALABLE BLOCKCHAIN [NEM.IO] [T.ME/NEMRED]
|
|
|
|
dandruff1138
|
 |
September 10, 2015, 11:20:03 PM |
|
I see lots of talk about progress but nothing substantial has actually been done. Namespaces and Mosaic is a pretty far on the testnet and that is a big progress in my opinion. BTC is sliding, NEM is slipping right with it. I know you don;t like to talk about value but this is A C U R R E N C Y... haha 100 XEM= $0.01 USD and going down. All those who invested are losing, and people will say it is a long term investment, and those are either echoing the losers of yesterday or are new to the crypto game.  BTC is a currency, but it tries to keep up with the new high tech blockchain platform solutions which are out there and that fails. Thats like tuning an old car again and again and again... NEM is no currency, it is a platform and its features are still in development. XEM (the currency) is one small part of NEM. And yes, value of XEM is low right now, because development is ongoing and not done yet. People don't invest too much if stuff is not done yet, understandable. It takes time, NEM is a long term project, everybody who is into NEM knows that. At the rate we are going I estimate NEM will be 50 sats or more around.... 2077 HODL EVERYONE!
|
|
|
|
|
patmast3r
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 06:22:52 AM |
|
We shouldn't focus so much on the price. We need to focus on doing what is the best thing.
Then why were you posting here that nem will have 300 million market cap at launch just a week before the launch? He did it so NEM trolls wont die from starving. In other words, no one should believe whatever he is posting about future of nem. He has either no clue, or he is being super optimistic, or he is trolling, according to you. "We shouldn't focus so much on the price. We need to focus on doing what is the best thing." This has been on repeat for over 6 months now... I guess some things need to be repeated for people to understand them. You are exhibit A. I just saw this post because mixmaster quoted it so don't bother answering...you're on my ignorelist.
|
|
|
|
Xpedite
Sr. Member
  
Offline
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 06:38:18 AM |
|
A lot of what I see at this forum is people who see crypto as investment only. They believe it will make them rich and that's the only reason they are around... Preferably it'll make them rich today or tomorrow so they can cash out for fiat. And that in fact is the main reason why the adoption of cryptocurrency is (and will) take much longer than any of these believers think. What everyone should realise is that you need money to get in, to take it out! Sure some people are getting good profits with the pump and dump schemes but while they do, they discourage adoption of crypto. Because for every whale that is manipulating the market, there will probably be hundreds of people that are just getting their feet wet in crypto and get discouraged because they see their initial investment decimated by these pump/dump schemes. I see crypto as a means to do something about getting ripped off by the financial industry and ensure a fair/honest financial and monetary system. You may call me naive and an idealist but at least I am not the one expecting to get rich quick. Sure I hope to make some profit from my XEM one day, but that's not the reason I am around. If XEM is at 50 sats around 2077 that's just fine by me, there will be more than enough opportunities to get value ( not profit per sé) from NEM. If more people had this attitude; crypto would have been evolved a lot more than it is right now. Stop expecting from devs and crypto to do something for you and start thinking what you can contribute, that's the only way to make progress and the main reason I am convinced NEM will eventually make it, since most of the core believers in NEM realise this. Sure the price is low at this time, but that's mainly because of impatient people dumping faster than demand can grow at this time. However, I expect a pivot point where the price will shoot up and will never go back to near where it is now. I have more fear of selling XEM and missing the pivot point than to see the price go to 10 sats, but time will tell who's right anyway. However, I am sure that if I am wrong, anyone wining about development progress going too slow or whatever will be long gone anyway 
|
|
|
|
|
|
nembit86
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 07:46:12 AM |
|
A lot of what I see at this forum is people who see crypto as investment only. They believe it will make them rich and that's the only reason they are around... Preferably it'll make them rich today or tomorrow so they can cash out for fiat. And that in fact is the main reason why the adoption of cryptocurrency is (and will) take much longer than any of these believers think. What everyone should realise is that you need money to get in, to take it out! Sure some people are getting good profits with the pump and dump schemes but while they do, they discourage adoption of crypto. Because for every whale that is manipulating the market, there will probably be hundreds of people that are just getting their feet wet in crypto and get discouraged because they see their initial investment decimated by these pump/dump schemes. I see crypto as a means to do something about getting ripped off by the financial industry and ensure a fair/honest financial and monetary system. You may call me naive and an idealist but at least I am not the one expecting to get rich quick. Sure I hope to make some profit from my XEM one day, but that's not the reason I am around. If XEM is at 50 sats around 2077 that's just fine by me, there will be more than enough opportunities to get value ( not profit per sé) from NEM. If more people had this attitude; crypto would have been evolved a lot more than it is right now. Stop expecting from devs and crypto to do something for you and start thinking what you can contribute, that's the only way to make progress and the main reason I am convinced NEM will eventually make it, since most of the core believers in NEM realise this. Sure the price is low at this time, but that's mainly because of impatient people dumping faster than demand can grow at this time. However, I expect a pivot point where the price will shoot up and will never go back to near where it is now. I have more fear of selling XEM and missing the pivot point than to see the price go to 10 sats, but time will tell who's right anyway. However, I am sure that if I am wrong, anyone wining about development progress going too slow or whatever will be long gone anyway  Amen brother !!!!
|
NDZ4YPCKVKWAIIZBB5T7T5EL67N2XWPQODGGWIYT
|
|
|
Nortan12rx
Full Member
 
Offline
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
Nordway
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 07:59:22 AM |
|
A lot of what I see at this forum is people who see crypto as investment only. They believe it will make them rich and that's the only reason they are around... Preferably it'll make them rich today or tomorrow so they can cash out for fiat. And that in fact is the main reason why the adoption of cryptocurrency is (and will) take much longer than any of these believers think. What everyone should realise is that you need money to get in, to take it out! Sure some people are getting good profits with the pump and dump schemes but while they do, they discourage adoption of crypto. Because for every whale that is manipulating the market, there will probably be hundreds of people that are just getting their feet wet in crypto and get discouraged because they see their initial investment decimated by these pump/dump schemes. I see crypto as a means to do something about getting ripped off by the financial industry and ensure a fair/honest financial and monetary system. You may call me naive and an idealist but at least I am not the one expecting to get rich quick. Sure I hope to make some profit from my XEM one day, but that's not the reason I am around. If XEM is at 50 sats around 2077 that's just fine by me, there will be more than enough opportunities to get value ( not profit per sé) from NEM. If more people had this attitude; crypto would have been evolved a lot more than it is right now. Stop expecting from devs and crypto to do something for you and start thinking what you can contribute, that's the only way to make progress and the main reason I am convinced NEM will eventually make it, since most of the core believers in NEM realise this. Sure the price is low at this time, but that's mainly because of impatient people dumping faster than demand can grow at this time. However, I expect a pivot point where the price will shoot up and will never go back to near where it is now. I have more fear of selling XEM and missing the pivot point than to see the price go to 10 sats, but time will tell who's right anyway. However, I am sure that if I am wrong, anyone wining about development progress going too slow or whatever will be long gone anyway  in 1 year many will dream of price in 50 sats when price is 1 sat. i look forward to prices in 1 sat as this price is a bottom for xem.
|
|
|
|
|
|
nembit86
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 08:02:07 AM |
|
A lot of what I see at this forum is people who see crypto as investment only. They believe it will make them rich and that's the only reason they are around... Preferably it'll make them rich today or tomorrow so they can cash out for fiat. And that in fact is the main reason why the adoption of cryptocurrency is (and will) take much longer than any of these believers think. What everyone should realise is that you need money to get in, to take it out! Sure some people are getting good profits with the pump and dump schemes but while they do, they discourage adoption of crypto. Because for every whale that is manipulating the market, there will probably be hundreds of people that are just getting their feet wet in crypto and get discouraged because they see their initial investment decimated by these pump/dump schemes. I see crypto as a means to do something about getting ripped off by the financial industry and ensure a fair/honest financial and monetary system. You may call me naive and an idealist but at least I am not the one expecting to get rich quick. Sure I hope to make some profit from my XEM one day, but that's not the reason I am around. If XEM is at 50 sats around 2077 that's just fine by me, there will be more than enough opportunities to get value ( not profit per sé) from NEM. If more people had this attitude; crypto would have been evolved a lot more than it is right now. Stop expecting from devs and crypto to do something for you and start thinking what you can contribute, that's the only way to make progress and the main reason I am convinced NEM will eventually make it, since most of the core believers in NEM realise this. Sure the price is low at this time, but that's mainly because of impatient people dumping faster than demand can grow at this time. However, I expect a pivot point where the price will shoot up and will never go back to near where it is now. I have more fear of selling XEM and missing the pivot point than to see the price go to 10 sats, but time will tell who's right anyway. However, I am sure that if I am wrong, anyone wining about development progress going too slow or whatever will be long gone anyway  in 1 year many will dream of price in 50 sats when price is 1 sat. i look forward to prices in 1 sat as this price is a bottom for xem. maybe your thinking is a wee bit askew ?
|
NDZ4YPCKVKWAIIZBB5T7T5EL67N2XWPQODGGWIYT
|
|
|
Nortan12rx
Full Member
 
Offline
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
Nordway
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 08:09:00 AM |
|
A lot of what I see at this forum is people who see crypto as investment only. They believe it will make them rich and that's the only reason they are around... Preferably it'll make them rich today or tomorrow so they can cash out for fiat. And that in fact is the main reason why the adoption of cryptocurrency is (and will) take much longer than any of these believers think. What everyone should realise is that you need money to get in, to take it out! Sure some people are getting good profits with the pump and dump schemes but while they do, they discourage adoption of crypto. Because for every whale that is manipulating the market, there will probably be hundreds of people that are just getting their feet wet in crypto and get discouraged because they see their initial investment decimated by these pump/dump schemes. I see crypto as a means to do something about getting ripped off by the financial industry and ensure a fair/honest financial and monetary system. You may call me naive and an idealist but at least I am not the one expecting to get rich quick. Sure I hope to make some profit from my XEM one day, but that's not the reason I am around. If XEM is at 50 sats around 2077 that's just fine by me, there will be more than enough opportunities to get value ( not profit per sé) from NEM. If more people had this attitude; crypto would have been evolved a lot more than it is right now. Stop expecting from devs and crypto to do something for you and start thinking what you can contribute, that's the only way to make progress and the main reason I am convinced NEM will eventually make it, since most of the core believers in NEM realise this. Sure the price is low at this time, but that's mainly because of impatient people dumping faster than demand can grow at this time. However, I expect a pivot point where the price will shoot up and will never go back to near where it is now. I have more fear of selling XEM and missing the pivot point than to see the price go to 10 sats, but time will tell who's right anyway. However, I am sure that if I am wrong, anyone wining about development progress going too slow or whatever will be long gone anyway  in 1 year many will dream of price in 50 sats when price is 1 sat. i look forward to prices in 1 sat as this price is a bottom for xem. maybe your thinking is a wee bit askew ? i so don't think. look at a situation and you will understand that xem is necessary to nobody. it even is visible on daily volume. and time so, price every month will fall and approach all of us to that point in 1 sat where there will be a bottom for xem. my recommendation not to buy. to wait for price in 1 sat and then to dream of price in 50 sats to increase a state by x50 
|
|
|
|
|
Nortan12rx
Full Member
 
Offline
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
Nordway
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 08:41:29 AM |
|
I see XEM as maybe the project with the best prospects when it comes to altcoins, it will never hit 1 satoshi, that's insane, then you could buy 100 million xem for 1 bitcoin, never going to happen. It would be nice to fall back to 10 satoshi though, I'd buy a lot of em...  here so it also occurs. there where 10 sats will be and 1 sat there. why so? because for a large number coins also big daily volume is necessary. if there is no big daily buy volume that price from 10 sats will fall to 1 sat. if you go to 10 sats that you go to 1 sat with such low daily buy volume 
|
|
|
|
|
tyz
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3360
Merit: 1534
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 08:53:16 AM |
|
This would be 100 billion Satoshi or 1000 Bitcoins or around 240k $. I doubt you have this much of money to risk it on a coin what have not reached version 1 yer  I see XEM as maybe the project with the best prospects when it comes to altcoins, it will never hit 1 satoshi, that's insane, then you could buy 100 million xem for 1 bitcoin, never going to happen. It would be nice to fall back to 10 satoshi though, I'd buy a lot of em...  here so it also occurs. there where 10 sats will be and 1 sat there. why so? because for a large number coins also big daily volume is necessary. if there is no big daily buy volume that price from 10 sats will fall to 1 sat. if you go to 10 sats that you go to 1 sat with such low daily buy volume  There is only 9 billion XEM, if it hits 10 satoshi I will personally buy 1 billion XEM
|
|
|
|
|
|
patmast3r
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 08:56:57 AM |
|
This would be 100 billion Satoshi or 1000 Bitcoins or around 240k $. I doubt you have this much of money to risk it on a coin what have not reached version 1 yer  I see XEM as maybe the project with the best prospects when it comes to altcoins, it will never hit 1 satoshi, that's insane, then you could buy 100 million xem for 1 bitcoin, never going to happen. It would be nice to fall back to 10 satoshi though, I'd buy a lot of em...  here so it also occurs. there where 10 sats will be and 1 sat there. why so? because for a large number coins also big daily volume is necessary. if there is no big daily buy volume that price from 10 sats will fall to 1 sat. if you go to 10 sats that you go to 1 sat with such low daily buy volume  There is only 9 billion XEM, if it hits 10 satoshi I will personally buy 1 billion XEM Big investors have invested at least that much in BTC and that hasn't reached v1 either. 0.11.0 seems to be the current version. I agree though...just sayin...
|
|
|
|
Nortan12rx
Full Member
 
Offline
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
Nordway
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 08:58:25 AM |
|
I see XEM as maybe the project with the best prospects when it comes to altcoins, it will never hit 1 satoshi, that's insane, then you could buy 100 million xem for 1 bitcoin, never going to happen. It would be nice to fall back to 10 satoshi though, I'd buy a lot of em...  here so it also occurs. there where 10 sats will be and 1 sat there. why so? because for a large number coins also big daily volume is necessary. if there is no big daily buy volume that price from 10 sats will fall to 1 sat. if you go to 10 sats that you go to 1 sat with such low daily buy volume  There is only 9 billion XEM, if it hits 10 satoshi I will personally buy 1 billion XEM somewhere in a year, and can in two years when btc collapses completely. successful time to jump from sinking ship btc on new ship xem. now i understand for what manipulators lower so xem price. that then on cheap stuff to jump and receive as much as possible xem of coins. silly investors about it don't even guess that lowering of values in price usually happens before crash of system. unfortunately, it is very unpleasant to me to tell it, but all of us live in crypto world in btc system. before its crash all values will become cheaper. what we also see. xem costs 40 sats.. we on a threshold of crash of btc and in peaks of its price will be even lower. low volume is created artificially. here i speak about xem, not about other coins.
|
|
|
|
|
Xpedite
Sr. Member
  
Offline
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 09:04:31 AM |
|
About every post since my last post proves my point 
|
|
|
|
|
Nortan12rx
Full Member
 
Offline
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
Nordway
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 09:12:39 AM |
|
before crash of any system of value always become cheaper. thereby all people are exhausted as lambs in btc and then sharply system collapses. bubble bursts. this will be with btc. but will kill him technically. technology this bitcoin-xt will kill all. and here just there were new systems such as xem moreover and with artificially cut price. i think that those people who is already informed on fuure crash of btc they jumped on xem or wait that price fell still. as i to 1 sat 
|
|
|
|
|
Xpedite
Sr. Member
  
Offline
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
DRAMA: Dumb Retards Asking More Attention
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 09:30:08 AM |
|
before crash of any system of value always become cheaper. thereby all people are exhausted as lambs in btc and then sharply system collapses. bubble bursts. this will be with btc. but will kill him technically. technology this bitcoin-xt will kill all. and here just there were new systems such as xem moreover and with artificially cut price. i think that those people who is already informed on fuure crash of btc they jumped on xem or wait that price fell still. as i to 1 sat  Don't know if I exactly understand what you mean but... The actual question you should ask is : If BTC crashes, where will the money flow? Will it be to fiat or altcoins , and how much will flow to XEM? If you can predict that, then you can make estimations about the relative values of each currency (except $/€ off course since these markets will not be affected by such low volumes). That's why I go all in XEM once the fiat-XEM exchange has been established and we are independent of Bitcoin fluctuations, we should be pegged to fiat...
About the fiat-XEM exchange and pegging: Everyone should realise that price is driven by supply-demand, the same goes for exchanging currencies. A lot of this process is driven by subjective processes in our brains which is not something anyone has true control over. Anyway if XEM price is going to be pegged to fiat one day there will be a gradual transition that is driven by the volume. Therefore the fiat-XEM exchange volume has to be a multitude of that of BTC-XEM as far as I am concerned. I doubt it is something that will happen in the near future... Anyway , it's not because there is a way to exchange fiat-XEM that the BTC driven price fluctuations will disappear!
|
|
|
|
|
Nortan12rx
Full Member
 
Offline
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
Nordway
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 09:54:15 AM |
|
for understanding look now at dollar? prices of oil go down. it tells about that dollar strong currency. meanwhile all markets fall and people go to dollar which artificially do strong. now the question- for what it is done strong and there drive all people? to arrange its crash.
too most do and with btc! look at schedules for the last 2 years? the prices of other coins bargaining for btc intentionally were reduced. thereby doing btc by very strong cryptocurrency. here analogy to dollar. all too most becomes also the same people who will artificially arrange fast crash of dollar, thereby having deprived of 99% of people on the planet of their savings. as well btc. 99% of people in the crypto world trust the accumulation of btc..
you think just like that this bitcoin-xt came on a silver platter? everything becomes purposefully and according to plan. they need to arrange big crash. and only 1% of people who is aware of all affairs will rescue accumulation in that costs anything. xem moves to 1 sat. and let moves. at us still is in a stock of 1-2 years that before crash of btc on which 99% of people will lose the savings, to jump on this train leaving afar. people will seriously consider nem only after crash of btc. it not earlier than 2020. or 2025. till this time price will be low and till 2017 dependent on monetary btc system as xem is rigid through exchanges is attached to btc system which will fail somewhere in 2017 because of a technical aspect of btc.
|
|
|
|
|
Nortan12rx
Full Member
 
Offline
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
Nordway
|
 |
September 11, 2015, 10:16:42 AM |
|
and now i approached main thing and i want to set to all of you a question- what difference how much is xem in btc when in 2 years on btc crash, and afterwards is arranged and on dollar too there will be a crash?
the price of xem doesn't matter when precisely you know about that there will be a big accident where 99% of people have to lose everything..
if you have even 100 000 000 Makoto that in the future you will be very rich. but for this purpose we need to build not an exchange with fiat and an exchange for real goods. for example how much is an oil barrel in xem? only real markets but not a binding to fiat which in a trace behind dollar too all will be depreciated. the world prepares for very big crash and we who know that 1% about it. we are nemsters.
|
|
|
|
|
|