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November 06, 2014, 07:45:45 AM
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Anyone figure out what happened with all those people getting hacked?  Anyone figure out what happened?

We're not going to end up with an exchange losing a whole bunch of coins and someone flooding the market, are we?

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November 06, 2014, 07:47:35 AM
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So my rig is almost ready..

I just need to know how I plot on multiple harddrives.

I have 6 1TB disks in my computer that is ready for mining, but I have no idea on how to get started with plotting each of them.

Can someone help???

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November 06, 2014, 08:26:38 AM
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I am looking for someone who can help me with setting up my PC/Miner so I can start mining.'

Windows 7 is installed and 6x 1 TB HDDs ready.

How does plotting work?
How do I do that?

check this guide from crowetic
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bc1LIG0vOYYW6FxgBHhQGjKqm0aWoSClkqaNJx17wWk/edit?pli=1
Check this out Hamuki, just make sure you use the latest wallet version
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November 06, 2014, 08:32:07 AM
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Anyone figure out what happened with all those people getting hacked?  Anyone figure out what happened?

No ideas. Sad

So my rig is almost ready..

I just need to know how I plot on multiple harddrives.

I have 6 1TB disks in my computer that is ready for mining, but I have no idea on how to get started with plotting each of them.

Can someone help???

If you're on Windows, download Janror's cpu plotter. Choose plots ranges so they don't overlap.
Choose stagger depending on available memory, the higher the better.
For example, having 16 gb memory I've plotted 1 tb hdd with the following params:
plot size 400000 (100 gb per file), stagger 40000 (10 gb per chunk)   - this requires ~10 gb ram during plotting

file #1: start nonce 0, plot size 400000, stagger 40000
file #2: start nonce 400000, plot size 400000, stagger 40000
file #3: start nonce 800000, plot size 400000, stagger 40000
and so on
file #9: start nonce 3200000, plot size 400000, stagger 40000
and to fill the remaining 50 gb:
file #10: start nonce 3600000, plot size 200000, stagger 40000

Next HDD will start from nonce 3800000.

Size may vary a bit depending on HDD manufacturer. You might need to adjust the last file size.

Plot size must be a multiple of stagger.

There's also plot file optimizer which can make the stagger equal file size after plotting.
If you use closed-source tools make sure to send the coins often to another wallet which you never store on the PC where you've runned these tools.
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November 06, 2014, 08:36:22 AM
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119098

How about that for mining on USB 3.0? U;tra low power, and up to 8gb RAM

Hehe, just came across it and want to give it a test some time, just for fun Smiley I mean, they HDD's will be wwaayy bigger than the actual PC!!!

EDIT: 4 USB 3.0 ports + 1 sata III http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173102

Limit i guess is the CPU for reading all those plots Sad
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November 06, 2014, 08:41:21 AM
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If I see it right, burst.ga is down again Sad

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November 06, 2014, 09:17:20 AM
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So my rig is almost ready..

I just need to know how I plot on multiple harddrives.

I have 6 1TB disks in my computer that is ready for mining, but I have no idea on how to get started with plotting each of them.

Can someone help???
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If you're on Windows, download Janror's cpu plotter. Choose plots ranges so they don't overlap.
Choose stagger depending on available memory, the higher the better.
For example, having 16 gb memory I've plotted 1 tb hdd with the following params:
plot size 400000 (100 gb per file), stagger 40000 (10 gb per chunk)   - this requires ~10 gb ram during plotting

file #1: start nonce 0, plot size 400000, stagger 40000
file #2: start nonce 400000, plot size 400000, stagger 40000
file #3: start nonce 800000, plot size 400000, stagger 40000
and so on
file #9: start nonce 3200000, plot size 400000, stagger 40000
and to fill the remaining 50 gb:
file #10: start nonce 3600000, plot size 200000, stagger 40000

Next HDD will start from nonce 3800000.

Size may vary a bit depending on HDD manufacturer. You might need to adjust the last file size.

Plot size must be a multiple of stagger.

There's also plot file optimizer which can make the stagger equal file size after plotting.
If you use closed-source tools make sure to send the coins often to another wallet which you never store on the PC where you've runned these tools.

Is it possible for anyone to jump on skype and help me out? Maybe even Teamviewer.

Because all of this is a bit hard to understand.

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November 06, 2014, 10:22:32 AM
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I can help you with Teamviewer, send me a PM.
I have 1h to spare more or less. It should take way less to start plotting your HDDs, thou.
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November 06, 2014, 01:53:33 PM
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Hm burst.ga is down for several hours, anyone know whats happening ...
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November 06, 2014, 02:46:14 PM
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Hm burst.ga is down for several hours, anyone know whats happening ...

They been through a lot lately, my guess is that the backup server died and crowetic isnt awake to fix it Smiley


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November 06, 2014, 02:54:23 PM
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Hm burst.ga is down for several hours, anyone know whats happening ...

They been through a lot lately, my guess is that the backup server died and crowetic isnt awake to fix it Smiley



Your guess is correct, I should be getting the new main server very shortly, I had a lot to take care of financially lately, but I'm getting there.

I won't be pushing anyone to the pool until I get it all back solid, but it'll be back up here in a second.

edit: and we're up.



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Also, no idea what's up with burstforum, but if it stays down longer I may be hiring someone to build a new forum.



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November 06, 2014, 03:18:38 PM
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Also, no idea what's up with burstforum, but if it stays down longer I may be hiring someone to build a new forum.

Let's hope it gets fixed... BLTPS project is "locked" too. I have a backup but without the subscriptions and PMs I got.
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November 06, 2014, 04:03:21 PM
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Also, no idea what's up with burstforum, but if it stays down longer I may be hiring someone to build a new forum.

Let's hope it gets fixed... BLTPS project is "locked" too. I have a backup but without the subscriptions and PMs I got.

Right, yea, I am not sure how to get a hold of BitV, besides messaging him here.


Oh, side note... the original pool backup server is being reinstalled right now with VMWare ESXi, and I should have the pool running back on that here shortly. This is an actual rackserver which is better than the current little VM i'm using for the host.

Then, within a few more days I will be purchasing a new server and having it hosted in a data center, which will function as the main server for the pool, with the VMWare machine I am setting up now, as it's backup.



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November 06, 2014, 04:10:19 PM
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Also, no idea what's up with burstforum, but if it stays down longer I may be hiring someone to build a new forum.

Let's hope it gets fixed... BLTPS project is "locked" too. I have a backup but without the subscriptions and PMs I got.

Right, yea, I am not sure how to get a hold of BitV, besides messaging him here.



burstforum is up again  Smiley

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November 06, 2014, 04:17:52 PM
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Right, yea, I am not sure how to get a hold of BitV, besides messaging him here.


Oh, side note... the original pool backup server is being reinstalled right now with VMWare ESXi, and I should have the pool running back on that here shortly. This is an actual rackserver which is better than the current little VM i'm using for the host.

Then, within a few more days I will be purchasing a new server and having it hosted in a data center, which will function as the main server for the pool, with the VMWare machine I am setting up now, as it's backup.

I'll wait till I find the next block in solo and then I'll switch back to burst.ga Smiley

p.s. If you need a hand with something, just tell
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November 06, 2014, 04:28:58 PM
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Also, no idea what's up with burstforum, but if it stays down longer I may be hiring someone to build a new forum.

Let's hope it gets fixed... BLTPS project is "locked" too. I have a backup but without the subscriptions and PMs I got.

Right, yea, I am not sure how to get a hold of BitV, besides messaging him here.



burstforum is up again  Smiley


Nice!!! Cheesy
Lets start making a complete backup! And expect a small update soon on the BLTPS project, too Smiley
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November 06, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
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I tried joining the http://burst-pool.cryptoport.io/ and I set the recipient, but there is no confirmations, there is only a "/" displayed at the end! If I understand correctly I am supposed to get 4 confirmations before I can join the pool?
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November 06, 2014, 05:17:08 PM
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My password is a random string of numbers and letters, caps and no caps, 30 symbols long. So weak password is not an issue.

It's unlikely that the password was bruteforced, but I think 30 symbols doesn't provide maximum security.
Please correct me if I'm wrong: 256 bits are used in the hash, that's 32 bytes. But we aren't using the full 0-255 character range in passwords, so they should be much much longer. 26 (a-z) + 26 (A-Z) + 10 (numbers) = only 62 chars subset is used for passwords. Using words instead of random letters raises bruteforcing chances even more. The passwords need to be 4.2 times longer: at least 134 symbols!


You're on the right track, but your math is not quite right. If you choose a password from a set of 62 characters, then each character is providing 5.95 bits of entropy (ln(62) / ln(2)). So, if you want to achieve 256 bits of entropy, your password should be at least 43 characters long.
i have'nt looked into the code on how the pk is used to sign transactions but i think it is ecdh based.
doing a google search for the included java code from nxt to do the signing brought up a site stating the sign function is not as secure as the original code where it was ported from to java. this is because java uses different size integers and a c big int variable has only the maximum size of an unsigned int in java (https://gist.github.com/doctorevil/9521116).
someone with java knowledge maybe can verify that the described flaw applies or hopefully does'nt apply to the code in src/java/nxt/crypto/Curve25519.java file or finds out this whole function is only included due to forking reasons.

this in combination with the wallet which offers 12 words OUT OF 1626 by default (html/ui/js/crypto/passphrasegenerator.js) makes it in my opinion attackable.
within an bruteforce attack this is less than 11 bit for each word which sums up to about 105 bits of combinations.
if the ecdh implementation shows the mentioned flaw it cuts internal 256 bit variables at 64 bit.
without further analysis this provides a option to bruteforce wallet generated keys by software designed to utilize this flaw by testing less than 32 bit of combinations. i am no crypto specialist and if someone with knowledge about all this could take a look into it would be great. i think as long as someone uses custom generated private keys even if the flaw exists in the code the required energy to break 105 bits is much more than what you get for the coins in the wallets. on the other hand it may be possible to bruteforce all known wallet addresses in one run without much more costs...

i currently do not understand why someone did'nt empty the whole account and only took 40k.
i dont want to make people panic sell and drive the price down but if you hold a certain amount of coins within one wallet think about all this if you used the wallet to generate your private key.

The signing issue isn't due to integer size differences, but due to java's lack of unsigned integer types. The proposed patch on the page you linked has been applied to the Curve25519.java file, so this hasn't been an issue for quite a while.

Regarding the passphrase generator, I don't know where the cut-off would be for considering it bruteforceable, however 105 bits does seem very low compared to what you would get from the recommended 35+ characters alphanumeric with symbols.

I think you're looking at the wrong account. Stacy's account had all 9.8k transfered, however they didn't continue to transfer new coins that came in from mining.

+1

nice to read this answer who clear up any possible doubt!!!
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November 06, 2014, 05:40:30 PM
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Update v1.0.3

Burst Long Term Price Support project
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v1.0.3 - 06/nov/2014
Given the possibility to send a PM also on BitcoinTalk, check "How to Participate - Phase 1" for the correct link
Postponed the end of Phase 1 by one day, given the downtime experienced by Burstforum

Remember that Phase 1 ends in three days! Make sure you give at least a look at this project!

I've also made a complete backup of the entire thread and received PMs, just in case burstforum.com goes down again, so your information are safe Smiley
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