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January 29, 2016, 03:19:50 AM
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how do you send your VAL from the valorbit site to your personal wallet??


A form was developed and will go online pending testing.

The list of Payees management form is already up at:
https://valorbit.com/pay_to_addresses

It can be access in the profile menu by clicking the user icon/name in the top right corner and clicking "Payees" in the vertical menu.

A stop-gap measure is to access your public/private key and cut-n-paste the private key into your clipboard
Dashboard --> "Received" section --> [ Key ] button

One can import it in command line or from the GUI using File --> Import .
As a side note a sweep Yes/No option is planned for that dialog.

I am wondering whether people would like to have the option to add to their profile an "external" public  address
where the system automatically moves the received valorbits from time to time.
As a convenience.

Thanks for the inquiry, this needs to go in an online tutorial.
yeah well i want to send them to my private wallet for staking , unless they stake here in the valorbit site and get credited to my account

just imported private key so the coins are in the wallet

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January 29, 2016, 04:40:55 AM
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At first I thought the coin supply was ridonkulous but considering you're only decimalizing it to 2 decimal places instead of 8, the max money is equivalent to a more reasonable 922 million (instead of 922 quadrillion which is just dumb).

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@notsofastcrypto

Thank you for pointing out the math from using 2 decimals instead of 8.

The original post was updated to clarify this aspect.

The scale difference from a standard 8 digits coin translates into the gift and referrals valuations that can be collected for the humans distributing the coins.

From https://valorbit.com

Gifts and referrals

Event                         | Gift       |    Valuation | Vesting
==============  ==========    ===========   ========

Facebook       
Basic account | Sapphire   |    5 000 VAL |   5 days
SMS verified  | Ruby       |  500 000 VAL | 100 days

For gifts collected by invited friends       
Referral      | Sapphire(N) |   10 000 VAL |   5 days
Referral      | Ruby(N)     |1 000 000 VAL | 100 days

 

So what is the plans for this coin , as in long term , what features and uses will it have , just looking for more info on the overall plan for this coin

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January 29, 2016, 05:42:02 AM
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January 29, 2016, 06:25:06 AM
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PoW block awards

    Year 0   :   50 000 VAL
    Year 1   : 100 000 VAL
    Year 2   : 200 000 VAL
    Year 3+ : 400 000 VAL



Max Money

https://github.com/valorbit/valorbit/blob/master/src/main.h


Because of using only 2 decimal digits the
MAX_MONEY is 
92 233 720 000 000 000  VAL

The premine is 1%
SEED_MONEY = MAX_MONEY/100;

and the current money supply is
     922 338 021 654 889 VAL

As notsofast made a good point below, this would translate in the world of 8 decimal bitcoin as 922 millions.

but how do you come to 1% premine?

125 years with 400k val you say here
50million val + 350k from the first years.
for my math, this is 95% premine.
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PoW block awards

    Year 0   :   50 000 VAL
    Year 1   : 100 000 VAL
    Year 2   : 200 000 VAL
    Year 3+ : 400 000 VAL



Max Money

https://github.com/valorbit/valorbit/blob/master/src/main.h


Because of using only 2 decimal digits the
MAX_MONEY is 
92 233 720 000 000 000  VAL

The premine is 1%
SEED_MONEY = MAX_MONEY/100;

and the current money supply is
     922 338 021 654 889 VAL

As notsofast made a good point below, this would translate in the world of 8 decimal bitcoin as 922 millions.

but how do you come to 1% premine?

125 years with 400k val you say here
50million val + 350k from the first years.
for my math, this is 95% premine.

That is just the PoW generation not including PoS.

Please correct me if I am wrong, isn't the term "premine" defined for any coin as the ratio of
(initial create or SEED_MONEY) / MAX_MONEY ?
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January 29, 2016, 06:54:25 AM
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well, if your timeframe is unlimited, then you are right.

the premine practically is "amount of coins at the very early blocks"/"the maximum of coins"


your maximum is theoretically unlimited, but practically (let's say 5 years): about 925million
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January 29, 2016, 07:23:26 AM
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well, if your timeframe is unlimited, then you are right.

the premine practically is "amount of coins at the very early blocks"/"the maximum of coins"


your maximum is theoretically unlimited, but practically (let's say 5 years): about 925million


With a goal to allow the members to distribute the coins at https://valorbit.com the ownership changes hands, hopefully quickly.
Clearly private sales of the premine are detrimental to the coin and very bad karma.

Have a look at the distribution site, I am not aware of any coin with a similar setup.
Effort went into that and the long term vision is to put the coin into the hands of tens of millions of people.

The question is how to distribute a coin to a huge amount of people with minimal costs and dilution?
I think that should be one fundamental goal of any coin.

At Valorbit the idea was to let them do it as they see fit.
As a logical result the distributors are rewarded a lot more than the classic miners.

So the premine was meant for that purpose, but is a two sided blade.

By all means any  coin should and will be penalized if premine dumps happen when exchanges will carry the coin.
That should hopefully be detectable.

To predict that sort of future in advance is not easy and certainly not that early.
Now it has a probability at most and "trust me" type of arguments will not be employed.


I was aware that the premine distribution method will raise questions, as other coins have tried and failed into the temptation.
But the alternative was to not create at all a Valorbit that can be distributed to tens of millions of people.

Having said that the bar set by Bitcoin and other cryptos before is high and the time will select winners.

To go forward with the valorbit distribution any questions or suggestions as to how to address these type of aspects are more than welcomed.

Thank you.

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Wallet needs to be fixed, it hangs all the time. ( 32 and 64 bits )
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January 29, 2016, 07:44:00 AM
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At first I thought the coin supply was ridonkulous but considering you're only decimalizing it to 2 decimal places instead of 8, the max money is equivalent to a more reasonable 922 million (instead of 922 quadrillion which is just dumb).

Avast blocked my download of the Win64 binary, showing Drep as the infection. Careful.

@notsofastcrypto

Thank you for pointing out the math from using 2 decimals instead of 8.

The original post was updated to clarify this aspect.

The scale difference from a standard 8 digits coin translates into the gift and referrals valuations that can be collected for the humans distributing the coins.

From https://valorbit.com

Gifts and referrals

Event                         | Gift       |    Valuation | Vesting
==============  ==========    ===========   ========

Facebook       
Basic account | Sapphire   |    5 000 VAL |   5 days
SMS verified  | Ruby       |  500 000 VAL | 100 days

For gifts collected by invited friends       
Referral      | Sapphire(N) |   10 000 VAL |   5 days
Referral      | Ruby(N)     |1 000 000 VAL | 100 days

 

So what is the plans for this coin , as in long term , what features and uses will it have , just looking for more info on the overall plan for this coin

Hi BITDV,

This is a top notch business question and an opportunity to communicate that I would not want to miss.
I alluded a bit to where Valorbit should go in my previous post.

Please let me better formalize the business ideas floated around here and take some time to answer back, as it was a very loooooong BitcoinTalk launch day :-)

In any case I have trust in the expert crypto coin community here that they will help shape and move the coin forward
and over all the possible "mistakes" that will only help us learn on the way.

Already the feedback and questions are helping beyond any initial expectations.




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January 29, 2016, 10:35:20 AM
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At first I thought the coin supply was ridonkulous but considering you're only decimalizing it to 2 decimal places instead of 8, the max money is equivalent to a more reasonable 922 million (instead of 922 quadrillion which is just dumb).

Avast blocked my download of the Win64 binary, showing Drep as the infection. Careful.

@notsofastcrypto

Thank you for pointing out the math from using 2 decimals instead of 8.

The original post was updated to clarify this aspect.

The scale difference from a standard 8 digits coin translates into the gift and referrals valuations that can be collected for the humans distributing the coins.

From https://valorbit.com

Gifts and referrals

Event                         | Gift       |    Valuation | Vesting
==============  ==========    ===========   ========

Facebook       
Basic account | Sapphire   |    5 000 VAL |   5 days
SMS verified  | Ruby       |  500 000 VAL | 100 days

For gifts collected by invited friends       
Referral      | Sapphire(N) |   10 000 VAL |   5 days
Referral      | Ruby(N)     |1 000 000 VAL | 100 days

 

So what is the plans for this coin , as in long term , what features and uses will it have , just looking for more info on the overall plan for this coin

Hi BITDV,

This is a top notch business question and an opportunity to communicate that I would not want to miss.
I alluded a bit to where Valorbit should go in my previous post.

Please let me better formalize the business ideas floated around here and take some time to answer back, as it was a very loooooong BitcoinTalk launch day :-)

In any case I have trust in the expert crypto coin community here that they will help shape and move the coin forward
and over all the possible "mistakes" that will only help us learn on the way.

Already the feedback and questions are helping beyond any initial expectations.





Not a problem mate , just want a clear direction where it is going or where you would like it to go and have PM'ed you

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Nethash and diff going up...  Shocked maybe is good time for a pool.... 
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Nethash and diff going up...  Shocked maybe is good time for a pool.... 
Yes and i think if you find a good community support by facebook or  other type of social media
Then to the sun

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Nethash and diff going up...  Shocked maybe is good time for a pool.... 
Yes and i think if you find a good community support by facebook or  other type of social media
Then to the sun
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Nethash and diff going up...  Shocked maybe is good time for a pool.... 
Yes and i think if you find a good community support by facebook or  other type of social media
Then to the sun
RT
https://twitter.com/oecp85/status/693163485098831874
Thank you good job ..need more hype specially in social media

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January 30, 2016, 05:56:33 PM
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Nethash and diff going up...  Shocked maybe is good time for a pool.... 
Yes and i think if you find a good community support by facebook or  other type of social media
Then to the sun
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https://twitter.com/oecp85/status/693163485098831874
Thank you good job ..need more hype specially in social media

NP... i think this work a little yesterday just had 3 conections in my wallet today 12 conections.
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January 30, 2016, 06:51:42 PM
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how can i send coins o pc wallet i want to staking coins
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January 30, 2016, 07:11:44 PM
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how to mine in solo with gpu?
.conf is not available
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January 30, 2016, 07:15:03 PM
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how can i send coins o pc wallet i want to staking coins
A form was developed and will go online pending testing.

The list of Payees management form is already up at:
https://valorbit.com/pay_to_addresses

It can be access in the profile menu by clicking the user icon/name in the top right corner and clicking "Payees" in the vertical menu.

A stop-gap measure is to access your public/private key and cut-n-paste the private key into your clipboard
Dashboard --> "Received" section --> [ Key ] button

One can import it in command line or from the GUI using File --> Import .
As a side note a sweep Yes/No option is planned for that dialog.

I am wondering whether people would like to have the option to add to their profile an "external" public  address
where the system automatically moves the received valorbits from time to time.
As a convenience.
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This say how to send to your wallet, is on the fisrt page.
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January 30, 2016, 07:17:01 PM
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how to mine in solo with gpu?
.conf is not available

this is my .conf
rpcuser=USER
rpcpassword=PASS
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
RPCPort=8339
listen=1
server=1
daemon=1
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January 30, 2016, 07:23:33 PM
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where you saw the RPCport?
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