[ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers

[StealthCoin1]

I completely agree...
this is the future ...

wow.

with all good news, I think Lisk will soon hit the major exchange, such as C-Cex.

c-cex is not a major exchange and i wouldn't recommended anyone to leave any coin in there. it is simple, c-cex is garbage.

[redsn0w]

I completely agree...
this is the future ...

wow.

with all good news, I think Lisk will soon hit the major exchange, such as C-Cex.

c-cex is not a major exchange and i wouldn't recommended anyone to leave any coin in there. it is simple, c-cex is garbage.

It's better to say, I don't suggest to leave coins on any exchange... it's not really secure.

[Racer8]

Why is there 101 delegates? Wouldn't it be more decentralised with 1001 delegates for instance?  I think it would be better to have more than just 101 delegates, since this is pretty centralized in my opinion. What do you guys think?

Joining this great question. I also think that 101 delegates is way too little and it'll be quite possible to gain control over half of them. Where this number came from? What is the reasoning?

The key reason for only 101 delegates is to support the 10 second Lisk blocktime.  The more delegates there are, the more coordination messages you need between them in a given period of time - and it's not linear growth we're talking about here.  Crypti had a grand experiment called "Proof of Time" (PoT) whose goal was to coordinate large to infinite numbers of support nodes in a very short blocktime.   This PoT experiment failed.  When DPoS was grafted into Crypti, the 101 delegates worldwide were deemed the right number to support round-robin block addition every 10 seconds, based on the PoT experience.  Lisk has inherited this hard-won knowledge.

As for "gaining control of over half of them"...The only way to assure this doesn't happen is to verify people are who they say they are as they trickle in slowly one by one to join the testnet.  I'm doing this right now, documenting their ID credentials and performance in a spreadsheet for all to see after launch.  

That's why it's so important to be a Active Delegate on the test net NOW if you want to be an Active Delegate on the main net LATER.  I am betting there will be 1000+ people who will click the button in the Lisk client to become "Standby Delegates" within 24 hours after launch.  Most of them have no idea that they ALSO need to go off to rent a cloud server and set up totally different Lisk software to run a Delegate node.  How will you pick who to vote for out of that mob?  You won't.  You'll go to a spreadsheet I'm making of the people who have already proven they can do the job of an Active Delegate and have already been vetted to be individuals and not sock puppets.  

And you'll vote for the people in this spreadsheet.  The Team.

Wait until this time next week after launch, you'll understand what I'm talking about.  

So you're telling me who to vote for?  It's not a free delegate market with no discrimination?

[staticinstance]

Why is there 101 delegates? Wouldn't it be more decentralised with 1001 delegates for instance?  I think it would be better to have more than just 101 delegates, since this is pretty centralized in my opinion. What do you guys think?

Joining this great question. I also think that 101 delegates is way too little and it'll be quite possible to gain control over half of them. Where this number came from? What is the reasoning?

The key reason for only 101 delegates is to support the 10 second Lisk blocktime.  The more delegates there are, the more coordination messages you need between them in a given period of time - and it's not linear growth we're talking about here.  Crypti had a grand experiment called "Proof of Time" (PoT) whose goal was to coordinate large to infinite numbers of support nodes in a very short blocktime.   This PoT experiment failed.  When DPoS was grafted into Crypti, the 101 delegates worldwide were deemed the right number to support round-robin block addition every 10 seconds, based on the PoT experience.  Lisk has inherited this hard-won knowledge.

As for "gaining control of over half of them"...The only way to assure this doesn't happen is to verify people are who they say they are as they trickle in slowly one by one to join the testnet.  I'm doing this right now, documenting their ID credentials and performance in a spreadsheet for all to see after launch.  

That's why it's so important to be a Active Delegate on the test net NOW if you want to be an Active Delegate on the main net LATER.  I am betting there will be 1000+ people who will click the button in the Lisk client to become "Standby Delegates" within 24 hours after launch.  Most of them have no idea that they ALSO need to go off to rent a cloud server and set up totally different Lisk software to run a Delegate node.  How will you pick who to vote for out of that mob?  You won't.  You'll go to a spreadsheet I'm making of the people who have already proven they can do the job of an Active Delegate and have already been vetted to be individuals and not sock puppets.  

And you'll vote for the people in this spreadsheet.  The Team.

Wait until this time next week after launch, you'll understand what I'm talking about.  

So you're telling me who to vote for?  It's not a free delegate market with no discrimination?

This is a curated list of people running proven delegate nodes on testnet.  Most people will vote for these nodes at first, but you can vote for whom ever you want.  Why would you vote for someone that hasn't proven that they can run a node. 

[MalReynolds]

So you're telling me who to vote for?  It's not a free delegate market with no discrimination?

I will just provide some information you can use in your voting decisions if you choose to use it.   You are free to use all other information provided to you by all other people, and you are free to vote for whoever you want to.

Why would you vote for someone that hasn't proven that they can run a node?

That is a damn good question.

[chases]

Vote for me!    Lisk delegate position is currently at #229 # 95 #74Cryptostorms. Am running on DigitalOcean using Unbuntu and accessing thru a reputable app

[NextGenCrypto]

c-cex is not a major exchange and i wouldn't recommended anyone to leave any coin in there. it is simple, c-cex is garbage.

Uneducated troll...please point to any technical issues c-cex has not resolved.  Or as usual, are you just pulling bullshit out of your ass because they have ICO's?

[metamorphin]

I completely agree...
this is the future ...

wow.

with all good news, I think Lisk will soon hit the major exchange, such as C-Cex.

I remembered the same good news with Crypti...and where is Crypti now? Oh, sorry, it was transformed to LISK, wich will have the same success.

I am sure, lisk.io is another caliber with for sure not more the same mistakes than crypti.

I enjoy the party here, and love the enthusiasm and power, that team has!

Steve

[devlin]

Any news on profit sharing delegates?

[AleScamHole]

c-cex is not a major exchange and i wouldn't recommended anyone to leave any coin in there. it is simple, c-cex is garbage.

Uneducated troll...please point to any technical issues c-cex has not resolved.  Or as usual, are you just pulling bullshit out of your ass because they have ICO's?

ok for the past year they have had ZERO bruteforce protection. no  "tried password too many times" lockout or nothing
heres another
they disabled sms verify because its been broken for months. recently changed to google auth because of it
so ya, lots of hacking goes on there, NOT TO MENTION THEY MAKE DEALS WITH SCAM DEVS TO KEEP FUNDS
need more? o wait, your a mindless shill for that place, your post history says so ;p

[NextGenCrypto]

c-cex is not a major exchange and i wouldn't recommended anyone to leave any coin in there. it is simple, c-cex is garbage.

Uneducated troll...please point to any technical issues c-cex has not resolved.  Or as usual, are you just pulling bullshit out of your ass because they have ICO's?

ok for the past year they have had ZERO bruteforce protection. no  "tried password too many times" lockout or nothing
heres another
they disabled sms verify because its been broken for months. recently changed to google auth because of it
so ya, lots of hacking goes on there, NOT TO MENTION THEY MAKE DEALS WITH SCAM DEVS TO KEEP FUNDS
need more? o wait, your a mindless shill for that place, your post history says so ;p

Oh, so basically you're just butthurt because you lost money on obvious scams?

Lots of hacking?  Another oblivious moron.

You can all feel free to review my history, you'll see I'm no c-cex shill and just like to call out ignorant morons like the one above.

[AleScamHole]

c-cex is not a major exchange and i wouldn't recommended anyone to leave any coin in there. it is simple, c-cex is garbage.

Uneducated troll...please point to any technical issues c-cex has not resolved.  Or as usual, are you just pulling bullshit out of your ass because they have ICO's?

ok for the past year they have had ZERO bruteforce protection. no  "tried password too many times" lockout or nothing
heres another
they disabled sms verify because its been broken for months. recently changed to google auth because of it
so ya, lots of hacking goes on there, NOT TO MENTION THEY MAKE DEALS WITH SCAM DEVS TO KEEP FUNDS
need more? o wait, your a mindless shill for that place, your post history says so ;p

Oh, so basically you're just butthurt because you lost money on obvious scams?

Lots of hacking?  Another oblivious moron.

You can all feel free to review my history, you'll see I'm no c-cex shill and just like to call out ignorant morons like the one above.

meh dont be mad, you asked for tech problems they have, and i answered.
its ok that you spoke before you thought it happens

[NextGenCrypto]

c-cex is not a major exchange and i wouldn't recommended anyone to leave any coin in there. it is simple, c-cex is garbage.

Uneducated troll...please point to any technical issues c-cex has not resolved.  Or as usual, are you just pulling bullshit out of your ass because they have ICO's?

ok for the past year they have had ZERO bruteforce protection. no  "tried password too many times" lockout or nothing
heres another
they disabled sms verify because its been broken for months. recently changed to google auth because of it
so ya, lots of hacking goes on there, NOT TO MENTION THEY MAKE DEALS WITH SCAM DEVS TO KEEP FUNDS
need more? o wait, your a mindless shill for that place, your post history says so ;p

Oh, so basically you're just butthurt because you lost money on obvious scams?

Lots of hacking?  Another oblivious moron.

You can all feel free to review my history, you'll see I'm no c-cex shill and just like to call out ignorant morons like the one above.

meh dont be mad, you asked for tech problems they have, and i answered.
its ok that you spoke before you thought it happens

Changing to Google Auth is hardly a "tech problem", and FFS I hope English is not your first language...

[MalReynolds]

Vote for me!    Lisk delegate position is currently at #229 Cryptostorms. Am running on DigitalOcean using Unbuntu and accessing thru Putty

I just sent you a PM.  Good to meet you.

[chases]

anyone interested in becoming a Lisk delegate here is a simple step by step instructional link for Windows  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-ssh-keys-with-putty-on-digitalocean-droplets-windows-users

[ottobene]

anyone interested in becoming a Lisk delegate here is a simple step by step instructional link for Windows  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-ssh-keys-with-putty-on-digitalocean-droplets-windows-users

thanks

[staticinstance]

anyone interested in becoming a Lisk delegate here is a simple step by step instructional link for Windows  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-ssh-keys-with-putty-on-digitalocean-droplets-windows-users

thanks

saw you in the chat the other day, let me know when you have a node running so I can vote and add you to my list

https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=198

[StealthCoin1]

c-cex is not a major exchange and i wouldn't recommended anyone to leave any coin in there. it is simple, c-cex is garbage.

Uneducated troll...please point to any technical issues c-cex has not resolved.  Or as usual, are you just pulling bullshit out of your ass because they have ICO's?

top tier exchanges;
coinbase.com
bitstamp.net
btc-e.com
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top altcoin exchanges;
poloniex.com
bittrex.com
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crap garbage exchanges which can disappeared any day
bter.com
c-cex.com
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[ottobene]

If somebody need help for node setup

Setting up a Delegate for the Public Test Network (login.lisk.io)

[manhattanagriculture]

please vote delegate DAO #273, hosted in Tokyo, Japan

holding plenty of Lisk, and dedicated to securing the network!

I will be voting for all members on Phoenix1969's DELEGATE ALLIANCE