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[RealMalatesta]

I am thinking that exact same thing every time I am collecting my rewards. I am not even considering free spins since I am sports guy and not so much interested in casino.

I am always taking cash back instead of free bets since free bets amount is maybe 5% bigger than cashback. For free bet to make any sense it would need to be double the size of cashback and I still would not take it since void bet with free bet means loss and not money back.

You could basically make an educated guess to say that they are looking for more free bets instead of spins or cashbacks because they would rather have you wagering on sports. It is more logical that you could simply just get "money" in any form to wager on sports, free spins in the casino part is not related to sports so they give lower returns on that one.

Simplest way to keep people invested with the sportsbook is to not let them go do something else. Imagine a sportsbook that gives bigger rewards for their casino part, would that bookie end up losing all their customers because they promoted casinos? Or would it make sense for them to promote sports betting so that people would wager more and more? The last one sounds better doesn't it?

[Trofo]

I am thinking that exact same thing every time I am collecting my rewards. I am not even considering free spins since I am sports guy and not so much interested in casino.

I am always taking cash back instead of free bets since free bets amount is maybe 5% bigger than cashback. For free bet to make any sense it would need to be double the size of cashback and I still would not take it since void bet with free bet means loss and not money back.

You could basically make an educated guess to say that they are looking for more free bets instead of spins or cashbacks because they would rather have you wagering on sports. It is more logical that you could simply just get "money" in any form to wager on sports, free spins in the casino part is not related to sports so they give lower returns on that one.

Simplest way to keep people invested with the sportsbook is to not let them go do something else. Imagine a sportsbook that gives bigger rewards for their casino part, would that bookie end up losing all their customers because they promoted casinos? Or would it make sense for them to promote sports betting so that people would wager more and more? The last one sounds better doesn't it?

That is my point exactly. Read my first post again. It would be much more logical from Sportsbet side to offer me bigger free bet and incentivize me that way to take the free bet rather than cashback. After all I can withdraw money I get through cash back and I have to use free bet on their site. But they are not doing that, they are giving me free bet that is just marginally bigger than cash back. What player would take that and why? It means that I have to play one more ticket with odds of almost @2.0 just to get the amount they are giving me already with cash back. I can only conclude that lots of players are not understanding what free bet means and are taking that option anyway, otherwise I feel like Sportsbet is not using the clubhouse rewards to their maximum.

Sportsbet is actually making hell of an effort to convert/introduce their sports book players to casino games. There is a lot of promos targeted specifically to casino games so they are actually actively trying to swing us into that direction. If that is a goal and it must be - then again clubhouse rewards could be used to facilitate that goal even more.

[icopress]

[...] It means that I have to play one more ticket with odds of almost @2.0 just to get the amount they are giving me already with cash back. I can only conclude that lots of players are not understanding what free bet means and are taking that option anyway, otherwise I feel like Sportsbet is not using the clubhouse rewards to their maximum.

This is exactly the reason why I also choose cash back ... I ignore free spins and other bonuses due to the fact that I am far from it. But to be honest, as a regular at Sportsbet, I would definitely try to activate these free spins if there was a good redirect to some quick guide (I can't remember the name). I will probably write to Steve about this because I think there are many like me, those who do not go beyond the scope of sports predictions.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Hey guys,

I'm going to be taking a week or so off from now!  

A colleague of mine will be here for you in my absence.. please welcome   Martin!

Have a great & well deserved week off, Steve. And welcome to the madhouse, Martin.

[Juggy777]

Hey guys,

I'm going to be taking a week or so off from now!  

A colleague of mine will be here for you in my absence.. please welcome   Martin!

Have a great & well deserved week off, Steve. And welcome to the madhouse, Martin.

@sportsbet.io nice of you to give us a heads up otherwise your absence would have created chaos out here, and I hope Martin will continue in your footsteps and post his predictions too. Also with IPL semis and finals approaching @Martin any plan to boost these odds furthermore cause these will be highly sought bets.

[DarkStar_]

I won one of Sportsbet.io's Arsenal + Southampton prediction contests, and got my prize (a Southampton away jersey and a 2 mBTC free bet) today! Looks like Steve threw in an additional home jersey and a Watford scarf too, which was a really nice surprise 



Thank you sportsbet.io & jeremypwr for running all of these promotions!

That is my point exactly. Read my first post again. It would be much more logical from Sportsbet side to offer me bigger free bet and incentivize me that way to take the free bet rather than cashback. After all I can withdraw money I get through cash back and I have to use free bet on their site. But they are not doing that, they are giving me free bet that is just marginally bigger than cash back. What player would take that and why? It means that I have to play one more ticket with odds of almost @2.0 just to get the amount they are giving me already with cash back. I can only conclude that lots of players are not understanding what free bet means and are taking that option anyway, otherwise I feel like Sportsbet is not using the clubhouse rewards to their maximum.

Sportsbet is actually making hell of an effort to convert/introduce their sports book players to casino games. There is a lot of promos targeted specifically to casino games so they are actually actively trying to swing us into that direction. If that is a goal and it must be - then again clubhouse rewards could be used to facilitate that goal even more.

I wonder if one of the reasons people might end up taking a free spin is because they don't think the prize is worth taking by itself (for example 0.025 mBTC), and they'd rather have a chance to turn that into a really large prize. I think the minimum bet on a lot of games might be higher than the bonus too, so it wouldn't make sense to take the cash and make the bet yourself. I do agree that the sports free bet and casino options should probably be significantly larger than the cashback though for it to make more sense for more people.

[buwaytress]

Have a great week off, Steve! Fully deserved. Martin, did you know what you're getting yourself into?

My 2 cents to the ClubHouse rewards and to answer the question of "Why would anyone take the freebet and not the cashback?": I ignore slots, never played them. But unlike Trofo, I do take the freebet, and use them on big parlays. As people may know me by now, I simply don't do low payout bets, unless it's a big match I know something about. A 5/1+ acca or special is what I use those freebets for -- so the ~5% additional amount on it is like a free price boost.

So I agree. For most players, you should take the cashback, it's money in the bank and you could, presumably, earn back a hefty amount en route to Platinum.

But if you're going to end up putting it on Sports anyway -- for example, if you're one of a number of crazy Brazilian Sportsbet.io users who love doing 10-leg accas for 10000/1 multiplier, that 5% extra is a lot of fancy spare change ). Long parlays also minimise your void risk, you'd have to be severely unlucky to have all legs voided.

Also, I totally get why people would take the slots. It's bonus money and I think those are slots with Jackpots. I guess it'd be the equivalent of finishing a huge round of Blackjack or Poker at the casinos, and then on your way out throwing in some spare change into a slot machine to see if you can snag the Jackpot with a random spin.

Super point on using Clubhouse better to swing players to Casino though. The way the incentives are right now, the slot rewards just don't attract me (I'm not sure any amount would, though, unless it were significantly higher than the freebet).

got my prize (a Southampton away jersey and a 2 mBTC free bet) today! Looks like Steve threw in an additional home jersey and a Watford scarf too, which was a really nice surprise  

Really need to get my A-game on and snag that jersey in one of the editions with them! Still got my Watford ones but they've managed to age quicker than I have

[Trofo]

My 2 cents to the ClubHouse rewards and to answer the question of "Why would anyone take the freebet and not the cashback?": I ignore slots, never played them. But unlike Trofo, I do take the freebet, and use them on big parlays. As people may know me by now, I simply don't do low payout bets, unless it's a big match I know something about. A 5/1+ acca or special is what I use those freebets for -- so the ~5% additional amount on it is like a free price boost.

So I agree. For most players, you should take the cashback, it's money in the bank and you could, presumably, earn back a hefty amount en route to Platinum.

You have a point there which I have not considered but to get that boost and not loose money you need to hit odds over @20 if it is 5% additional amount. Never even considered it since you can't use insurance with free bets.

For instance I would use free bets on soccer blackjack promo if we got them back with push. Seems like perfect promo for something like that, unfortunately with free bets you either win or loose, there is no safety net with push like when playing for your own money.

[sportsbet.io]

Hi Guys,

Even tho we didn't have any big matches ongoing yesterday, we still had a big winners.

Like this 140k USDT multi on Russia, Poland and German low level soccer.

Gives some extra boost to go for something similar myself  

(also cheers for the warm welcome by you guys)

Regards,

Martin
sportsbet.io

[leea-1334]

Nice share Martin I guess this is beginner level for Brazil!

I almost totally forgot we have Nations League football and IIRC correctly Sportsbet used a lot of specials.

By the way has something happened to Clubtalk "Special Offers" tab? It no longer works and I used to use it to keep track of all the specials like Blackjack. Now the last post there was a brighton vs Arsenal Superboost.

I see in main channel there is update but you can lose track of it if a lot of people chat and the promo is pushed out.

[mak013]

Nice bet. There are lots of matches we can bet. But the most of us have no time to analyze low-level leagues. Here there are 3 leagues with unknown teams. It was low risk bet but with large stake. As for me, i don`t ready to risk with such teams, but it can be interesting if you have enough free time.

[notblox1]

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[icopress]

What a welcome for you Martin! 

Nice share Martin I guess this is beginner level for Brazil!

I almost totally forgot we have Nations League football and IIRC correctly Sportsbet used a lot of specials.

By the way has something happened to Clubtalk "Special Offers" tab? It no longer works and I used to use it to keep track of all the specials like Blackjack. Now the last post there was a brighton vs Arsenal Superboost.

I see in main channel there is update but you can lose track of it if a lot of people chat and the promo is pushed out.

Perhaps Steve was updating the information, or maybe someone else did it ... but somehow the beginning of his vacation coincides with the termination of up's.

Early next week we will launch a super super exciting promotion.. keep an eye on for that..  

And by the way, who knows what kind of promotion Steve mentioned or hasn't been announced yet? ^{[hopefully bring back the old rules of football BJ]}

[dezoel]

Hi Guys,

Even tho we didn't have any big matches ongoing yesterday, we still had a big winners.

Like this 140k USDT multi on Russia, Poland and German low level soccer.

Gives some extra boost to go for something similar myself 

(also cheers for the warm welcome by you guys)

Regards,

Martin
sportsbet.io

What a welcome for you Martin! Did that guy spent 44k dollars on a third division on Germany, second division on Russia and so forth? Also Polish as well. I mean that sounds as cheesy cheating as it gets. If I had to guess, I would say that those three games were fixed before and teams were paid big big amounts to win and then they ended up getting money from mafia to be allowed to lose those games, and then mafia wagered officially on those games huge amounts and made even more money from it.

I know that is probably not what happened, I am not accusing anyone anything, I am just saying that it was definitely something that looked similar to it, if it were to ever happen. This is a shocking thing, third division Germany, second division Poland, second division Russia and a whole 44k dollars wagered on those three? That looks quite ballsy if you are not sure of something.

[leea-1334]

By the way has something happened to Clubtalk "Special Offers" tab? It no longer works and I used to use it to keep track of all the specials like Blackjack. Now the last post there was a brighton vs Arsenal Superboost.

Perhaps Steve was updating the information, or maybe someone else did it ... but somehow the beginning of his vacation coincides with the termination of up's.

No actually,,, this particular channel has stopped working since Brighton Crystal Palace on September 27 (my mistake I said Brighton Arsenal) so it has been over one week already. Now that channel is filling up with spam since it is no longer posting Offers.

It is not a problem as I said before since they update it in the main channel but once everybody spams it can get pushed up and missed being seen by people.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Belgium vs France tomorrow in the UEFA Nations League semi final. That’s a proper match that is, true high quality players on show. I missed the Italy vs Spain semi final today but I’m definitely going to tune in to Belgium vs France tomorrow.

Just thinking what might be a likely outcome tomorrow to have a bet on.

[sportsbet.io]

Hi Guys,

Tune in this Saturday for the next Behind The Bet.

Join us for some of the best EPL-related stories you’ll ever hear! The man who’s been on the inside of Southampton Football Club for years, the Saints’ kit man Mark Forbes!

Regards,

Martin
sportsbet.io

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Cool, I reckon a kit man definitely has some juicy stories to tell
I’ll definitely be tuning in to listen, he probably has some NSFW tales to tell from his years in the industry.

[dezoel]

Belgium vs France tomorrow in the UEFA Nations League semi final. That’s a proper match that is, true high quality players on show. I missed the Italy vs Spain semi final today but I’m definitely going to tune in to Belgium vs France tomorrow.

Just thinking what might be a likely outcome tomorrow to have a bet on.

As can be seen from the other nights games, it is never really clear to me who will win in the midseason national games. I hate to wager on qualifiers because they never make any sense at all. I would understand if they were in the summer, because teams get together and have training together and some friendlies and camps and so forth which makes the team better.

However calling the players up during the season, just when they were getting the hang of their teams, then end up playing them with bunch of other people and then sending them back to their teams never really made any sense to me. Hopefully I will be wrong and win this bet, but I am pretty sure I will be wrong once again.

[leea-1334]

Cool, I reckon a kit man definitely has some juicy stories to tell
I’ll definitely be tuning in to listen, he probably has some NSFW tales to tell from his years in the industry.

This is going to be so cool! I never knew anything much about any club's kitman not even my own. Remember last year or the year before Arsenal had to let go of their mascot and someone of the players stepped in to pay for his salary? These guys are big parts of club history especially some like Mark Forbes who I found out now worked for Southampton like for 12 years!