Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[soy]

Order #12x
Miner Saturn
Date of Order 3/6/2013
Paid 9/7/2013
Location Athens/Greece

Status change In progress a few hours a go

According to KnCMiner, they work full time all weekend to catch 15th of October!!!  

i see Saturns moving forward but Junipers are not goig anywhere. what happed to the sacred queue? So so disappoint

My Merc is in progress this morning.

[The Avenger]

And now, "Gay Life On Bitcoin", a venture by 2 loveable users, Cypherdoc and Avenger.
Let's all donate BTC and send these two on a honeymoon. Anything to get them out of here.

And how much skin do you have in the KNC game MrHempstock? Oh yeah, 25GH. That's kinda sad and pathetic. And actually, just a little gay.

And now, "Gay Life On Bitcoin", a venture by 2 loveable users, Cypherdoc and Avenger.
Let's all donate BTC and send these two on a honeymoon. Anything to get them out of here.

You should be nicer to the mentally disabled.

This coming from someone too stupid to read  
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=309391.msg3319602#msg3319602

[soy]

There's a very valid reason why you don't just turn off your computer by yanking the plug out of the wall socket - and flipping the PSU switch is the equivalent of doing that.  Do that to your desktop computer a few times and see how well it runs as a result...

Yeah I have turned PC off GPU rigs at the switch a couple thousand times.  It is a non-issue.  There is a reason open frame GPU miners used power supplies with a physical power switch on back.

you missed the whole point, the motherboard being hooked up properly with those pins tells give the PSU a reference as to what to do and that its ready to shut things down instead of POP powers gone.

Regardless of the 2 pins that are shorted, the other voltages drain into the motherboard after it's turned off.

Might be why some models don't have bleed off resistors on filter caps - cost-cutting designers arguing that the voltages will bleed off into the motherboard while at the same time giving a slight efficiency increase to the power supply stats compared to the same supply having capacitor bleed off resistors.

[DeathAndTaxes]

The power that goes across the Green>Black pins that you would use for the paperclip trick are very low amperage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXgQSokF4
Otherwise... why would corsair advertise it as a safe way to test?

Yeah not only is it low current it is also low voltage, about 0.9V and 500mA.  You have more risk of electrocution handling a AA battery without protective gear.

While it only takes about 300mA of DC current (only 60 or so mA for AC current) to cause irreversible ventricular fibrillation. The good news is the human body is a pretty good resistor and it takes a pretty high voltage to the protective insulator we call skin.  If it wasn't then people would just be killing each other on a daily basis with static electricity shocks. 

Anything below 50V isn't a significant shock risk unless you somehow managed to stab both ends of the paper clip into your heat cavity while still being energized.  Then again if someone can manage to accidentally do that they probably are doomed anyways.

[jimrome]

Probably a stupid question:
Is anyone's Jupiter actually working reliably at 450+GH/s?

[jeroenn13]

Probably a stupid question:
Is anyone's Jupiter actually working reliably at 450+GH/s?

Yes mine, stable at 500 Gh/s @ BTCguild. 0.94 firmware.

[fragout]

And here is a tip for everyone.  You know those two pins you jump to make the PSU work?  Do you know what those are used for?  

When you press the OFF switch your motherboard opens those two pins, telling the PSU to power everything down safely.  That is the only correct way to shut a system down - pull the jumper, then power off the PSU.  

If you just flip the PSU switch off, you leave a "whole lot of amerage" suddenly looking for the quickest way to get home.  And electrons aren't fussy, if they can find a shorter path across a component instead of thru it, they'll use that.  If there are unseen micro droplets of solder on the solder mask that present a shorter path, they'll use that path, carbonizing the solder mask and making it an even BETTER shortcut - resulting in nasty smelling smoke and burned solder mask...

Just flipping the PSU switch to off might not break anything the first time or even 100th time you do it, but eventually you'll pay the price, and the magic smoke gets out.  There's a very valid reason why you don't just turn off your computer by yanking the plug out of the wall socket - and flipping the PSU switch is the equivalent of doing that.  Do that to your desktop computer a few times and see how well it runs as a result...

Good tip thanks!

I bought this (sry for bad pic)
I didnt take much notice at the time, but the jumper is set to pin 4 and pin 6 unlike the setup suggested in the manual of pin 4 and 5
I also have the 8vrm boards and the 6 connection controller board

[soy]

The power that goes across the Green>Black pins that you would use for the paperclip trick are very low amperage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXgQSokF4
Otherwise... why would corsair advertise it as a safe way to test?

Yeah not only is it low current it is also low voltage, about 0.9V and 500mA.  You have more risk of electrocution handling a AA battery without protective gear.

The trick is for what, just testing?  No matter what else that wire pair does, it tells the power supply that a motherboard is connected.  There is no motherboard connected to the motherboard connector when that wire pair is jumped.

[DPoS]

How about just start shipping the proper 8 VRM design and offer replacements to affected customers (who you shipped underperforming units).

+1   agree with everything you said.   They did not have to shoot themselves in the foot here.  What was the gain?  Who made this call?

since one of my Jupiters have one board with 8 VRMs I can show the difference (this is with open case, and fans on top of it)

[DeathAndTaxes]

The trick is for what, just testing?  No matter what else that wire pair does, it tells the power supply that a motherboard is connected.  There is no motherboard connected to the motherboard connector when that wire pair is jumped.

There is no need for a motherboard to be connected.   The power supply turns on the when voltage on that pin is low and it turns off when the voltage on that pin is high.  A motherboard, switch, or paperclip all do the same thing they connect the power-on pin to ground which pulls the voltage low.  When the power supply is on (plugged in and any hardwired power switch is turned on) it monitors that pin and supplies continual power to the 5VSB rail.  When it goes low it "turns on" = supplies power to the other rails, and when it goes high it "turns off" = disconnects power to the other rails.

[robix]

Order 29XX, Jupiter
Paid June 28
Changed status from "Paid" to "In progress"

[NetTime]

Probably a stupid question:
Is anyone's Jupiter actually working reliably at 450+GH/s?

Yes mine, stable at 500 Gh/s @ BTCguild. 0.94 firmware.

Mine too stable around 450 but they better f'n sort the firmware, before 0.94 mine was running 100GH/s faster.

[DeathAndTaxes]

I bought this (sry for bad pic).  I didnt take much notice at the time, but the jumper is set to pin 4 and pin 6 unlike the setup suggested in the manual of pin 4 and 5

It is fine.  Technically it is pin 17 (pin 4 is the one on the first row).  The "power on" pin just needs to be "pulled low" and that is done by connecting it to the ground.  Any ATX ground pin would work fine.

http://www.mupuf.org/images/wt-rpm/connector_atx_pinout.gif

Hell connecting pin 4 to the power supply screw will also work (the chassis of the power supply is grounded).   How this is done paperclip, adapter, PSU tester, custom power board (Avalon), custom built power switch, motherboard, etc.  It doesn't really matter.

Pin 4 is "high" = not connected to ground --> power supply is "off"*
Pin 4 is "low" = connected to ground (any ground) ---> power supply is "on"*

* Technically off/on is poor terms because even when a PSU is "off" it is powered internally and supplies power to the 5VSB rail.  When a power supply is "on" it can be overridden by internal logic and output power shutoff due to overvolt, overcurrent, overheat, or other internal fault situation.

[jeroenn13]

Probably a stupid question:
Is anyone's Jupiter actually working reliably at 450+GH/s?

Yes mine, stable at 500 Gh/s @ BTCguild. 0.94 firmware.

Mine too stable around 450 but they better f'n sort the firmware, before 0.94 mine was running 100GH/s faster.

I agree they have many , many issues with their firmware. Kind of unprofessional from this company.

[xstr8guy]

Order 29XX, Jupiter
Paid June 28
Changed status from "Paid" to "In progress"

35xx in progress too.  Seems they're moving at a good pace now.

[josh_nc]

Can we have a count on how many showing "in progress" for more than 1 week?

[Transam808]

Mine has changed to in progress as well 31xx, though I'm starting to think they just switched most orders to in progress to try and avoid refunds, hope in wrong though, we will see

[josh_nc]

Probably a stupid question:
Is anyone's Jupiter actually working reliably at 450+GH/s?

Yes mine, stable at 500 Gh/s @ BTCguild. 0.94 firmware.

Mine too stable around 450 but they better f'n sort the firmware, before 0.94 mine was running 100GH/s faster.

I agree they have many , many issues with their firmware. Kind of unprofessional from this company.

Is 0.94 a must for stability or can you apply up to 0.93 for now until they fix the speed issue with 0.94?

J/

[nightengale]

Hoping "in progress" isn't a stall technique.

[faetos]

Order 29XX, Jupiter
Paid June 28
Changed status from "Paid" to "In progress"

35xx in progress too.  Seems they're moving at a good pace now.

Are either of you hosted or are you both shipping?