Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[FiatKiller]

Yes, after this incident, I used the IR gun and found nothing over 140F I think it was.
Trying Bertmod right now. Seems much slower mining, but I will give it some time.

Speed is ~23% of what I was getting with cg...

[the-skeptic]

Hehe. Currently at 37,000 feet doing 720mph heading from beijing to san francisco, so I am bored and keep refreshing btcguild stats. I've got a jupiter running at 520 and a sickly saturn doing 210, but I noticed my rankings says I hit a block at some point. In the past two days since Inlast checked my rankings. Is there a Quick and dirty way on btcg to tell which block was mine? I don't have port forwarding setup on my network to remotely manage my miners, which means I can't get to ssh into cgminer, (but will be able to in about 16 hours).

 Is there a log file on the miner which will show me found blocks if btcg won't? I am a diehard windows user since my dad brought home v 1.0 around 1986, so you gotta talk to me about angstrom like I'm a baby. Once I ssh in, how would I find the log files that I assume it keeps?

Damn it feels good to finally find a block and actually feel like I've contributed to the btc community rather than just collecting pplns payments for twiddling my thumbs.

Thanks guys n gals,

Dana in Santa Fe

[FiatKiller]

Can you run enablecores on top of BertMod? Doesn't that require a reboot? I know if I reboot BertMod will disappear, but after 37 mins it is creeping up in speed, but still less than half of cg.

[CMMPro]

I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013

Go thru that list and laugh at all the failure....

ASICMiner? Haven't shown much as of yet and gen 2 was a fail.
Avalon? Lol...outdated chips and they screwed the entire community.
Hashfast? Delivery before Dec 31st they are now saying....many of their cusotmers are realizing that they will never make money and are jumping ship.

Bitfury...legit deliveries...only real competitor right now.

Basically everyone who bought late is now asking for a refund and they intend to buy instead of mine.


I'd say there will be no where near the difficulty that thread is proposing by the end of the year.

It's got maybe a couple more big jump in diff left and then it will stall for a bit.  

[edgar]

cointerra???

avalons 55nm chips that they can fkn choke on for all i care...?

[FeedbackLoop]

I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013

Go thru that list and laugh at all the failure....

ASICMiner? Haven't shown much as of yet and gen 2 was a fail.
Avalon? Lol...outdated chips and they screwed the entire community.
Hashfast? Delivery before Dec 31st they are now saying....many of their cusotmers are realizing that they will never make money and are jumping ship.

Bitfury...legit deliveries...only real competitor right now.

Basically everyone who bought late is now asking for a refund and they intend to buy instead of mine.


I'd say there will be no where near the difficulty that thread is proposing by the end of the year.

It's got maybe a couple more big jump in diff left and then it will stall for a bit.  

True but keep in mind that ordered wafers and built machines won't go to trash even if all the customers bail out/stop buying.

Momentum from huge investments take a while to wind down.

FiatKiller: enablecores does require a reboot.

[FiatKiller]

Yeah, I rebooted and got rid of BertMod. Does not work well on my machine. Everything is back to current "normal" of 269 avg hash & WU of ~3800. Also, adjusted the bags to block the heatsink slightly less, to be safer.

[Cablez]

Looks like 0.98.1 beta did not help out my dead die.  Its been running for an hour and the current has only improved 0.1A, not enough to bring it to life.  That's a bummer.  Looks like its RMA time. 

[-Redacted-]

I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013

Go thru that list and laugh at all the failure....

ASICMiner? Haven't shown much as of yet and gen 2 was a fail.
Avalon? Lol...outdated chips and they screwed the entire community.
Hashfast? Delivery before Dec 31st they are now saying....many of their cusotmers are realizing that they will never make money and are jumping ship.

Bitfury...legit deliveries...only real competitor right now.

Basically everyone who bought late is now asking for a refund and they intend to buy instead of mine.


I'd say there will be no where near the difficulty that thread is proposing by the end of the year.

It's got maybe a couple more big jump in diff left and then it will stall for a bit.  

True but keep in mind that ordered wafers and built machines won't go to trash even if all the customers bail out/stop buying.

Also Bitfury's pool alone keeps increasing like a beast:
https://ghash.io/

Momentum from huge investments take a while to wind down.

In terms of competition to KNC this may mar Bitfury's credibility for the future way more than late deliveries would though:
https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=321630.0even  


FiatKiller: enablecores does require a reboot.

When are people going to get it through their heads that ghash.io is NOT a "bitfury pool" - it was a private pool that has nothing to do with BFSB, or MBP, or Tytus.  ghash.io is NOT the 100TH mine.  Anyone that puts out at least 1 Gh/s can mine there and sell their output on cex.io.

They happen to mention Bitfury gear on their OP, but I know for a fact there are many KnC's mining there - they don't restrict the hardware you use.  It started out as a pool for some private board builds using Bitfury chips, but is now open to all.

[FeedbackLoop]

When are people going to get it through their heads that ghash.io is NOT a "bitfury pool" - it was a private pool that has nothing to do with BFSB, or MBP, or Tytus.  ghash.io is NOT the 100TH mine.  Anyone that puts out at least 1 Gh/s can mine there and sell their output on cex.io.

They happen to mention Bitfury gear on their OP, but I know for a fact there are many KnC's mining there - they don't restrict the hardware you use.  It started out as a pool for some private board builds using Bitfury chips, but is now open to all.

Thanks. Edited above post accordingly.

[Biffa]

I spoke to soon. My fathers Saturn, which has been running great since we got it displays this on the cgminer output screen sometimes.

013-11-02 09:28:09] KnC: core 0-34 was disabled due to 10 HW errors in a row
 [2013-11-02 09:28:14] KnC: core 4-166 was disabled due to 10 HW errors in a row

Is there a particular cause of this and is it something that can be fixed? I have ran enabledallcores and using .98 firmware. Just sub-standard hardware?

Try going back to 0.96

[xyzzy099]

When are people going to get it through their heads that ghash.io is NOT a "bitfury pool"

Probably about the same time they remove this from their login page:

[Phoenix1969]

Had an interesting incident last night. I check my email after six hours and it says the KNC is dead, so I check with Putty and line after line says the share I'm submitting is from the previous block. Anyone else ever had this happen? I'm not sure if it is a cgminer error after running for 3 days or if it's because I'm playing around with a hotter miner. Anyways, resetting the miner worked and it's back to normal. We did have slightly warmer weather yesterday, but I never saw a temp higher than 48 on the miner. I would have grabbed a screenshot, but was worried I bricked the miner. lol  If it happens again, I will grab one though.

Just a note about the temps. I really don't think they are measured at the ASIC so careful with those.  
Wasn't it you measuring them with an IR thermometer though?

I just gotta say.....Bullshit... I ran 2 of my Sats all the way up to 95C.
All 3 sats love to run at 70C, that's the "Sweetspot".  How can you be warning peeps at 48C? That's just not correcct... at all.
Emily even stated in an e-mail---rated to 105...  
Do you really think they meant temp from some other source than the thermometer reading they provided? ....lolz.

[FeedbackLoop]

Had an interesting incident last night. I check my email after six hours and it says the KNC is dead, so I check with Putty and line after line says the share I'm submitting is from the previous block. Anyone else ever had this happen? I'm not sure if it is a cgminer error after running for 3 days or if it's because I'm playing around with a hotter miner. Anyways, resetting the miner worked and it's back to normal. We did have slightly warmer weather yesterday, but I never saw a temp higher than 48 on the miner. I would have grabbed a screenshot, but was worried I bricked the miner. lol  If it happens again, I will grab one though.

Just a note about the temps. I really don't think they are measured at the ASIC so careful with those. Wasn't it you measuring them with an IR thermometer though?

I just gotta say.....Bullshit... I ran 2 of my Sats all the way up to 95C.
All 3 sats love to run at 70C, that's the "Sweetspot".  How can you be warning peeps at 48C? That's just not correcct... at all.

Call bullshit all you want but re-read what I said. I was warning about the placement of the sensors not the temperature itself. In my experience I can stop the cooler fans and the temperature will barely rise. If I stop the case fans it will rise some 10 C. I cannot say for sure the sensors are not on the ASIC but I still think it's a nice warning to the most daring mod posted here (covering the coolers with plastic bags), especially if the temperatures reported are in the 40-50C and he was getting problems. I even asked about the IR sensor precisely because I am not sure.

If you re-read my posts you will see that I am not a "defender of cold temperatures" at all (and if I genuinely were, why wouldn't that be correct?).

After that tell me what exactly is "just not correct at all".

[Phoenix1969]

Do you really think they meant temp from some other source than the thermometer reading they provided? ....lolz. That's just ludacrist.
and by not correct..I specifically mean you warning peeps about 45 degrees, when KNC specifically said "up to 105"...   Are you trying to confuse people?...  Those are the specs. Period.
45 degrees isn't even half the rated "max temp." You can't understand that?

[mtbitcoin]

Anyone that puts out at least 1 Gh/s can mine there and sell their output on cex.io.

Sorry for the slightly out of topic, but how does this work? You point your miners to ghash.io and sell your hashes on cex.io?

I thought ghash.io was just a pool for miners and for those who bought shares on cex.io ?

[tarmi]

Anyone that puts out at least 1 Gh/s can mine there and sell their output on cex.io.

Sorry for the slightly out of topic, but how does this work? You point your miners to ghash.io and sell your hashes on cex.io?

I thought ghash.io was just a pool for miners and for those who bought shares on cex.io ?

no, you cant sell your hashes on cex.io, if your miners are pointed to ghash. only in-house hasher are for sale, and your miners get btcs like on any other pool. 

[FeedbackLoop]

Do you really think they meant temp from some other source than the thermometer reading they provided? ....lolz. That's just ludacrist.
and by not correct..I specifically mean you warning peeps about 45 degrees, when KNC specifically said "up to 105"...   Are you trying to confuse people?...  Those are the specs. Period.

I was warning about sensor placement (go read my previous post on why!) and you insist on ignoring what I write. Stop distorting what I said!

I run mine at 69C reported and I posted a lot about the improvement from hotter temperatures with my own setup. What the hell is your fight? Do you think there is a "cold KNC" conspiracy out to get you or what? Seriously, some people will take anything posted as a personal fight. Get off your high horse!

[timmmers]

Are you also selling your BTC for fiat? If not, to get a completely honest answer you should be doing your calcs in what you would have paid in BTC when you ordered. BTC has appreciated significantly against the USD since you would have ordered.

this dogma will never die here..   I guess it is a clash of old btc-in-hand miners vs the new credit-in-hand miners

the new credit-in-hand miners take your equation and find out they would have paid 0btc for miners since they wouldn't get a miner if they had to try to buy btc on credit first..  would be a total waste of fees if possible, so they just keep the equation in $$$ and factor in the increase of btc value as part of their investment.

I'll say it again.. for a lot of the new miners, there is no 'if you bought it with btc' or 'if you just bought btc'

are all the old miners myopic??  staring at hashings screens for 2-3 years probably does that

Agreed. If you have 50 BTC and have the choice to buy a rig with it (that may or may not break even or even arrive) or just keep your BTC buying a rig is stupid. Buying a mining rig to possibly return what you already have, plus the avoidable risks inherent in the system that are solved by Paypal or CC protection. The very last thing you should use to buy with bitcoins is a miner to create them..it's illogical. Even more so given the past scenarios when people found themselves up shit creek after buying BFL and other manufacturers rigs in BTC.

If the value of BTC rising is your game you're better off trading them properly with leverage and being able to gain from both rises AND falls in value rather than sitting on them .

I paid in dollars, if my rig makes me more than I began with...that's a profit. Simple as that. I can make more in a month trading BTC than any rig should I be up for a gamble, but compared to buying rigs from unknown companies it's a lesser risk.

As for rigs that have run for a couple of weeks and made 1/3 of their value back...that means that so far difficulty hasn't shot up is all. It doesn't mean they will break even, unless the BTC value continues to rise. A week earler on time delivery would have missed a huge increase in difficulty and they would maybe have been 50% or more recovered by now. By Xmas we'll all be crying when we see the amount they manage to produce even compared to now. We knew that though, but we had the word of KNC to deliver to rely on to make our decision. Those early days let us all down badly and some people who lost out over 2 diff increases were royally screwed.

Reality seems to be the enemy of people buying this gear.

[FeedbackLoop]

When are people going to get it through their heads that ghash.io is NOT a "bitfury pool"

Probably about the same time they remove this from their login page:

+1

Re-reading that I don't feel sorry for thinking it was associated with Bitfury (in fact isn't there any link really? I would really like to know). My initial post, as quoted, remains valid in the sense that the current allegations about Ghash.io may indeed hurt Bitfury's reputation (to the benefit of KNC which was the context in which I was replying to). The allegations against ghash.io are serious and the evidence is compelling.