Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[soy]

somethings up.  I'm fighting with all my machines, someone hates me.

Loose ground wire internal of a switching supply to a laptop - might have put noise on the line causing the 2 RPi to go down and other systems to falter.  Love the 0.98 firmware.

[Tehfiend]

I'm not sure why everybody keeps talking about hindsite.

Um, well....

Yes I did and knew that I was cashing out my BTC for $7000 in USD which I was then then investing in the amount of BTC I predicted the Jupiter to make. It looks like my prediction was off because of the shipping delay and unexpected difficulty increases so I should have just held onto the BTC because my goal was to increase my BTC holdings since I predicted the BTC exchange rate would continue increasing. The fiat profit I made is a small consolation since I would have most likely made much more by NOT buying the Jupiter.

LOL, so in HINDSIGHT you have determined you should have bought BTC and not the Jupiter, right?  ROFL.

Yes the point is that hind-site shows me that I should have invested directly in BTC (or held them in my case) instead of buying a Jupiter where many are claiming that it was NOT a bad decision simply because they didn't have the hind-site to know the future. Big difference. Well I'm done wading through the mud, can't say I didn't try

[Tehfiend]

Set> Hmm it never even occurred to me that some pools do let you specify the difficulty of shares you want.

I always just ifgured the pools are adjusting it based on how fast you get solutions to them, so as to slow you down or speed you up as they think best?

I was mining mmpool, not sure if it even has a way I can tell it a specific difficulty I'd like.

-MarkM-

EDIT: Okay apparently it is cgminer that I tell my desired difficulty to, I thought it used to be some add-on code you put in the pool URL or something but apparently it is a commandline argument to cgminer. What kind of diffuclty would be better? I am have been seeing pretty good hashing speeds. Also that killed remark seems to hint it is the O/S or the web scripts or something external to cgminer that is killing me not some error inside cgminer...

-MarkM-

From what I understand is that you can set the MINUMUM difficulty via the pools which will usually auto adjust based on your hashrate. This decreases the time to adjust to your optimal difficulty since it will not have to start at 1. That is how Eligius and BTCguild work from my experiences (although the Eligius minimum difficulty doesn't work yet).

[djcoin]

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


"Unbeknown to the community we are currently developing the next generation product in 20nm/16nm process with Alchip "

[texaslabrat]

I'm not sure why everybody keeps talking about hindsite.

Um, well....

Yes I did and knew that I was cashing out my BTC for $7000 in USD which I was then then investing in the amount of BTC I predicted the Jupiter to make. It looks like my prediction was off because of the shipping delay and unexpected difficulty increases so I should have just held onto the BTC because my goal was to increase my BTC holdings since I predicted the BTC exchange rate would continue increasing. The fiat profit I made is a small consolation since I would have most likely made much more by NOT buying the Jupiter.

LOL, so in HINDSIGHT you have determined you should have bought BTC and not the Jupiter, right?  ROFL.

Yes the point is that hind-site shows me that I should have invested directly in BTC instead of buying a Jupiter where many are claiming that it was NOT a bad decision simply because they didn't have the hind-site to know the future. Big difference. Well I'm done wading through the mud, can't say I didn't try

LOL I get you..I thought it was just pure comedic providence to put your two quotes together :p

[Tehfiend]

Well after 5 days of nonstop stable mining my Jupiter just stopped hashing. The web interface said CGMiner was down and when SSHing in there was no screen session running. Restarting the miner via the web interface did nothing but a reboot has it back in action. Only 10 minutes of downtime but guess I still need to keep my eyes peeled for offline email warnings. Hopefully they'll eventually get it as stable as my Avalons which I have to say are 100% stable even when overclocked. Going to look at the logs when I have time tomorrow...

[-ck]

Set> Hmm it never even occurred to me that some pools do let you specify the difficulty of shares you want.

I always just ifgured the pools are adjusting it based on how fast you get solutions to them, so as to slow you down or speed you up as they think best?

I was mining mmpool, not sure if it even has a way I can tell it a specific difficulty I'd like.

-MarkM-

EDIT: Okay apparently it is cgminer that I tell my desired difficulty to, I thought it used to be some add-on code you put in the pool URL or something but apparently it is a commandline argument to cgminer. What kind of diffuclty would be better? I am have been seeing pretty good hashing speeds. Also that killed remark seems to hint it is the O/S or the web scripts or something external to cgminer that is killing me not some error inside cgminer...

-MarkM-

Difficulty is set at the pool, not by the miner. Go to your pool's interface to change it or use a pool with a vardiff implementation. cgminer got killed likely because your device ran out of memory. There is also a --lowmem option which helps somewhat with this, but the beaglebone does have other things running consuming memory and cgminer might get targeted regardless.

[1l1l11ll1l]

Set> Hmm it never even occurred to me that some pools do let you specify the difficulty of shares you want.

I always just ifgured the pools are adjusting it based on how fast you get solutions to them, so as to slow you down or speed you up as they think best?

I was mining mmpool, not sure if it even has a way I can tell it a specific difficulty I'd like.

-MarkM-

EDIT: Okay apparently it is cgminer that I tell my desired difficulty to, I thought it used to be some add-on code you put in the pool URL or something but apparently it is a commandline argument to cgminer. What kind of diffuclty would be better? I am have been seeing pretty good hashing speeds. Also that killed remark seems to hint it is the O/S or the web scripts or something external to cgminer that is killing me not some error inside cgminer...

-MarkM-

Difficulty is set at the pool, not by the miner. Go to your pool's interface to change it or use a pool with a vardiff implementation. cgminer got killed likely because your device ran out of memory. There is also a --lowmem option which helps somewhat with this, but the beaglebone does have other things running consuming memory and cgminer might get targeted regardless.

Could running BurtMod be contributing to the memory issue, or does BurtMod only consume a tiny portion?

[Phoenix1969]

Set> Hmm it never even occurred to me that some pools do let you specify the difficulty of shares you want.

I always just ifgured the pools are adjusting it based on how fast you get solutions to them, so as to slow you down or speed you up as they think best?

I was mining mmpool, not sure if it even has a way I can tell it a specific difficulty I'd like.

-MarkM-

EDIT: Okay apparently it is cgminer that I tell my desired difficulty to, I thought it used to be some add-on code you put in the pool URL or something but apparently it is a commandline argument to cgminer. What kind of diffuclty would be better? I am have been seeing pretty good hashing speeds. Also that killed remark seems to hint it is the O/S or the web scripts or something external to cgminer that is killing me not some error inside cgminer...

-MarkM-

Difficulty is set at the pool, not by the miner. Go to your pool's interface to change it or use a pool with a vardiff implementation. cgminer got killed likely because your device ran out of memory. There is also a --lowmem option which helps somewhat with this, but the beaglebone does have other things running consuming memory and cgminer might get targeted regardless.

Could running BurtMod be contributing to the memory issue, or does BurtMod only consume a tiny portion?

That would be a "yes"...
Unix/Linux is also known to parallel process rather slow, when having to switch between programs, or draw on several apps at once...  I wouldn't actually blame it all on the memory without knowing more, but certainly a major factor if your diff is too low imho

[opentoe]

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


"Unbeknown to the community we are currently developing the next generation product in 20nm/16nm process with Alchip "

They have time to post such news, but don't have the time to participate in their own forums and help people out on their devilish products? They aren't thinking people are going to buy from them again, do they? Is making an announcement like that just a start of mind controlling techniques in the marketing world? Also, if you tried to visit that link www.ast.com that is IN their news publication it doesn't even work.

[zoro]

have you tried the new 0.9.8.1 FW?
i think it is total crap, from 100GH i went to 60
and please try to talk only about KNC issues and not BTC politics in general!

[sickpig]

When ckolivas provided a link to a version of cgminer that supposedly might fix the problem of your miner just stopping, I ssh'd in and wgot it and ran it and all seemed well for a while.

But just now it stopped. The lasting thing my ssh session saw was:

Code:

[2013-11-06 02:16:30] Accepted 083a245b Diff 31/16 KnC 0Killed
                                                               @Saturn-AEB:/home/root#

It seems to be saying that something actually killed it rather than that is ran into some kind of fatal error?

If so, what would have killed it, and why?

/var/log doesn't look too helpful in figuring out what happened...

-MarkM-

Linux oom killer? Maybe this cgminer version is leaking memory somewhere. Try to execute the dmesg command and report here the output.

[sickpig]

Unix/Linux is also known to parallel process rather slow...

wow Phoenix1969. this is bold.
citation needed at least  

[Phoenix1969]

Unix/Linux is also known to parallel process rather slow...

wow Phoenix1969. this is bold.
citation needed at least  

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFIQFjAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.oracle.com%2Fthread%2F2546176&ei=SPd5Uu_iOsmwiQKW7YCYBQ&usg=AFQjCNGuoC9AUd5HXvRhoRsJvm7A1PncOg&sig2=-ZH3Y3uynYTbhEXRFUSpBw&bvm=bv.55980276,d.cGE
I could post a hundred references, but this isn't the place... 

[timmmers]

Two firmware updates for me so far. Didn't do that, bot even half of it. Not had a problem

1. DL the update
2. On the KNC miner interface click update and select that download and apply it.
3. Click restart cg miner in the KNC interface.

Nothng else at all. Checked it after in Putty, but all was fine. lol

So after you upload and apply the firmware, it returns to a screen that says restart miner, is that the link you clicked or did you go back to the home screen, then go the the "Mining" and click on "Restart CGMiner" on that page?

Tbe last one, Mining screen >> Restart CGMiner.

[Phoenix1969]

Two firmware updates for me so far. Didn't do that, bot even half of it. Not had a problem

1. DL the update
2. On the KNC miner interface click update and select that download and apply it.
3. Click restart cg miner in the KNC interface.

Nothng else at all. Checked it after in Putty, but all was fine. lol

So after you upload and apply the firmware, it returns to a screen that says restart miner, is that the link you clicked or did you go back to the home screen, then go the the "Mining" and click on "Restart CGMiner" on that page?

Tbe last one, Mining screen >> Restart CGMiner.

no wonder

after you "apply" a message will appear with reboot in blu...hit that!
alternatively, you can power cycle the miner after apply.. but no need.
firmware wont apply without a reboot, restarting cgmner isnt enough...

[sickpig]

Unix/Linux is also known to parallel process rather slow...

wow Phoenix1969. this is bold.
citation needed at least  

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CFIQFjAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.oracle.com%2Fthread%2F2546176&ei=SPd5Uu_iOsmwiQKW7YCYBQ&usg=AFQjCNGuoC9AUd5HXvRhoRsJvm7A1PncOg&sig2=-ZH3Y3uynYTbhEXRFUSpBw&bvm=bv.55980276,d.cGE
I could post a hundred references, but this isn't the place... 

I can assure you that "Solaris 11.1 SRU 3.4.1." is quite different from modern linuxes regarding a lot of things (scheduler/memory allocation/IO etc etc etc). So I wouldn't have inferred  that since Solaris version XYZ has a problem then also Linux ver KYZ will behave in the same way in the same conditions. 

 

[Bitcoinorama]

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


"Unbeknown to the community we are currently developing the next generation product in 20nm/16nm process with Alchip "

They have time to post such news, but don't have the time to participate in their own forums and help people out on their devilish products? They aren't thinking people are going to buy from them again, do they? Is making an announcement like that just a start of mind controlling techniques in the marketing world? Also, if you tried to visit that link www.ast.com that is IN their news publication it doesn't even work.

1. The press release is from Alchip, not KnC. It's hardly mind control.
2. There just aren't enough bodies currently to maintain the forum ontop of all else. If you honestly think the reason is they cannot be bothered that's either naivety or ignorance. They have a dedicated customer support, the forum isn't a priority in my mind. It's one of the things they want me to work on and I'm flat refusing to be honest. I'm a bit disenchanted as to how I was treated here, entire threads abusing me, I'm not keen on more. I'd rather customer service focused on individual issues, and when/if my other work load dies down I'll consider it, but everytime I post I get multiple PMs.
3. Personally my own opinion i'e always followed and enjoyed the banter in Bitcointalk.
4. Thanks for letting me know about AST's deadlink, again it's Alchip 'a release. You can see it was posted y'day online. I presume they either added the incorrect link, or the site is down.


Edit: Here's the OG; http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20131105PR202.html

And AST's correct link is; www.ast.co.il I'll get it fixed

[Tigggger]

Well after 5 days of nonstop stable mining my Jupiter just stopped hashing. The web interface said CGMiner was down and when SSHing in there was no screen session running. Restarting the miner via the web interface did nothing but a reboot has it back in action. Only 10 minutes of downtime but guess I still need to keep my eyes peeled for offline email warnings. Hopefully they'll eventually get it as stable as my Avalons which I have to say are 100% stable even when overclocked. Going to look at the logs when I have time tomorrow...

I've been noticing this since 0.98+ and the devs are aware of the issue and are working on it.

I lost 7 hours of mining the other day as it happened at 2am and didn't catch it until I woke up.

I have now set up an alert on my phone to catch the idle notification emails and play an siren to wake me up.

[Mota]

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


"Unbeknown to the community we are currently developing the next generation product in 20nm/16nm process with Alchip "

They have time to post such news, but don't have the time to participate in their own forums and help people out on their devilish products? They aren't thinking people are going to buy from them again, do they? Is making an announcement like that just a start of mind controlling techniques in the marketing world? Also, if you tried to visit that link www.ast.com that is IN their news publication it doesn't even work.

1. The press release is from Alchip, not KnC. It's hardly mind control.
2. There just aren't enough bodies currently to maintain the forum ontop of all else. If you honestly think the reason is they cannot be bothered that's either naivety or ignorance. They have a dedicated customer support, the forum isn't a priority in my mind. It's one of the things they want me to work on and I'm flat refusing to be honest. I'm a bit disenchanted as to how I was treated here, entire threads abusing me, I'm not keen on more. I'd rather customer service focused on individual issues, and when/if my other work load dies down I'll consider it, but everytime I post I get multiple PMs.
3. Personally my own opinion i'e always followed and enjoyed the banter in Bitcointalk.
4. Thanks for letting me know about AST's deadlink, again it's Alchip 'a release. You can see it was posted y'day online. I presume they either added the incorrect link, or the site is down.


Edit: Here's the OG; http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20131105PR202.html

And AST's correct link is; www.ast.co.il I'll get it fixed

I am sorry that you took some heat here. We all know that you meant well and that you were pretty much a neutral party until you joined knc. But you could have known there would be a shitstorm coming your way the moment they messed up their delivery for some people while others got their orders on time. Again, not your fault, I know. It was just very very VERY badly handled by KNC.
Also, there is no dedicated customer support. There are 4 people working customer support for a multi million dolalr company. But at least those 4 are halfway competent and know their jobs.