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November 07, 2013, 11:28:05 PM |
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You didn't answer my question about a full refund. I'm only going to reply to you again if you give me a full answer to that question.
Avenger, there are times when you actually make logical arguments and actually help the community. Why balance that out with troll flame requests like the above? You are the sort of customer that KNC would probably be better off without - it's not like they have a shortage of non-asshole customers lined up waiting to send their money. Lol, nothing will change, canth. He's made up his mind a long time ago (for whatever reasons) that KNC can do no right and that each and every setback or mistake is a verified justification of his disapproval and vindicates his trolling.
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canth
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November 07, 2013, 11:36:01 PM |
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One could get the impression there was a statement like 'no happy customers at all'.
I'm happy for you that it worked out so nice, that you do not need to pay this f'ing -/+20% Tax like us Europeans, early delivery date, smoothly working devices and therefore reached break-even. Honestly this is great. I know there's always one in the world doing better than me, so I'm totally fine with it. If nobody would have reached break-even, situation for me would be worse for sure...so really nice!
However I'm confused that you do not care even a little about others suffering (not me). Didn't you consider further business with KnC ? How about next time it might be you punished by bad luck with delayed/messed up delivery, broken miner, delayed RMA, nobody picks up the phone, several days of exhausting email ping-pong while diff increases and other stuff reported...
And this is exactly my point. Nice it worked out! But what's next time ?
I get the delay complaints, I get concerns about break-even (although that's really not KNC's problem since they don't control the network speed or the price of bitcoin) but really, why bring up VAT complaints? If you want to not pay taxes, either move or find a vendor that cheats on taxes.
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canth
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November 07, 2013, 11:37:31 PM |
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You didn't answer my question about a full refund. I'm only going to reply to you again if you give me a full answer to that question.
Avenger, there are times when you actually make logical arguments and actually help the community. Why balance that out with troll flame requests like the above? You are the sort of customer that KNC would probably be better off without - it's not like they have a shortage of non-asshole customers lined up waiting to send their money. Lol, nothing will change, canth. He's made up his mind a long time ago (for whatever reasons) that KNC can do no right and that each and every setback or mistake is a verified justification of his disapproval and vindicates his trolling. Seriously. It's like his hero is BFL_Josh...
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FUKT
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November 07, 2013, 11:40:10 PM |
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AVENGER PLEASE POST PROOF THAT YOU HAVE A KNC MINER HASHING IN YOUR POSSESSION AND PLEASE POST THE FAULTS THAT THE UNIT HAS!
Why? Because a LOT fewer people would think he's a simple-minded representative of another company, based on his post history. Need another reason? If he were a simple minded representative from another company would any of his comments become invalid? The same comments which I have been making as well.
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November 07, 2013, 11:44:19 PM |
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Rising difficulty.... Say thanks to Bitfury.  He made his best and made it well. It was not good for us but it's an other question. Sorry for derailing the thread but speaking of diff, luckily enough for KnC miners (us), it seems that HashFast will deliver its first batch starting from mid-december at best. So this time luck is on our side and against other miners (HF customers). Fate actually plays no favorites, though.
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canth
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November 07, 2013, 11:44:59 PM |
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<snip> I read every post in this fu---in topic. From the 1st until now. There were a lot of bitching about rma "yep I have to pay 200$ to send back" yep yep. Guys, these are machines manufactured buy humans, always wil be problems. Rma is to solve them. You buy a machine for 7000-10000$ and you bitching on 200$? (And this machine makes money for you) <snip> I know some guys will hate me when a write this, but this is my opininon about mining and asic industry.  Honestly, if a problem happens within 24 hours of arrival then KNC should pickup the return shipping cost since that's shipping a defective item. However, I personally don't really care about the shipping cost. If a part breaks, I want KNC to charge me a BTC or credit card deposit for 3X the value of the card, ship the part the same day no questions asked. If I don't return the part within 7 days or if it works fine when they get it, then they can keep all or part of my deposit.
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canth
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November 07, 2013, 11:48:37 PM |
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AVENGER PLEASE POST PROOF THAT YOU HAVE A KNC MINER HASHING IN YOUR POSSESSION AND PLEASE POST THE FAULTS THAT THE UNIT HAS!
Why? Because a LOT fewer people would think he's a simple-minded representative of another company, based on his post history. Need another reason? If he were a simple minded representative from another company would any of his comments become invalid? The same comments which I have been making as well. It's entirely possible that he's a real customer with legitimate complaints. On the other hand, considering he won't post an order number, it's entirely possible he's just some troll with an agenda. So how about it Avenger? Post an order number or make a bunch of us hit the ignore button. Either way is fine with me.
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November 08, 2013, 12:02:45 AM |
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AVENGER PLEASE POST PROOF THAT YOU HAVE A KNC MINER HASHING IN YOUR POSSESSION AND PLEASE POST THE FAULTS THAT THE UNIT HAS!
Why? Because a LOT fewer people would think he's a simple-minded representative of another company, based on his post history. Need another reason? If he were a simple minded representative from another company would any of his comments become invalid? The same comments which I have been making as well. It's the tone. You come off like a guy that got the short splintery end of the stick. He comes across like a self righteous troll. I believe you. I don't believe him. That simple.
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November 08, 2013, 12:04:52 AM |
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Well isn't this a nice familiar site...someone says blah blah blah and another says you are wrong, blah blah blah...
and now sorry for being off topic *ahem!*...
but anyone noticing that their Jupiters stop hashing randomly? The miner webpage inaccessible and the putty window crashes. When i reboot it starts up fine again, but 2 of the 3 crashed again after 4 hours. Will keep track of how long it takes for the next crash.
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The Avenger
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November 08, 2013, 12:06:44 AM |
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You didn't answer my question about a full refund. I'm only going to reply to you again if you give me a full answer to that question.
Avenger, there are times when you actually make logical arguments and actually help the community. Why balance that out with troll flame requests like the above? Look. Any question I ask orama, he ignores it. Everyone keeps referring to my posting history, well you can look back and see that dozens of times. I ask a question. He ignores it and demands an answer off me about something. When he said he'd sort me an RMA, I asked if it would be for a full refund. He ignored the question and once again demanded an answer from me. I'm getting fairly sick of his bully-boy tactics. So I say "You don't answer my question, I ain't going to reply to anything you ask". Did he meet me half way, answer my question? Naw. He never answered my question, he shows no respect. Seriously, this schmuck thinks he's the boss and can order people around? Ignore their questions and demand they answer his? Fuck no. Not me. Then he PM's people to come on here and demand answers for him. People are saying I work for some competitor and yet swallow anything and everything orama says, even though he is and has been for a long time on the knc payroll. That's just laughable. I'll remind you of this, which is still entirely truthful: I have no ties to any other bitcoin or bitcoin related company. I am being 100% straight up and honest. And I am not bullshitlabs Josh  This is my stance from now on - I don't have to answer to internet trolls or KNC shills.
P.S. Anyone who want to hit the ignore button, go right ahead.
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canth
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November 08, 2013, 12:07:40 AM |
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Well isn't this a nice familiar site...someone says blah blah blah and another says you are wrong, blah blah blah...
and now sorry for being off topic *ahem!*...
but anyone noticing that their Jupiters stop hashing randomly? The miner webpage inaccessible and the putty window crashes. When i reboot it starts up fine again, but 2 of the 3 crashed again after 4 hours. Will keep track of how long it takes for the next crash.
It's not helpful, but for the units I've got, no, this never happens. I have needed to restart one of them after it inexplicably dropped 10% performance after running for a week solid, but really they've been pretty damned stable. Running on 0.98 - not going to touch another firmware version unless there are significant performance improvements.
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canth
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November 08, 2013, 12:14:48 AM |
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Look. Any question I ask orama, he ignores it. Everyone keeps referring to my posting history, well you can look back and see that dozens of times. I ask a question. He ignores it and demands an answer off me about something.
Fine, so he ignores some of your questions. Maybe it's because you act like an asshole. When he said he'd sort me an RMA, I asked if it would be for a full refund. He ignored the question and once again demanded an answer from me. I'm getting fairly sick of his bully-boy tactics.
So I say "You don't answer my question, I ain't going to reply to anything you ask". Did he meet me half way, answer my question? Naw. He never answered my question, he shows no respect.
Seriously, this schmuck thinks he's the boss and can order people around? Ignore their questions and demand they answer his?
Fuck no. Not me.
Umm, I don't think you are a customer. I imagine that O'rama doesn't think you are a customer either. Why would he answer hypothetical questions about a maybe customer who maybe has a problem? I call shenanigans. Then he PM's people to come on here and demand answers for him.
I never got any PMs from O'rama. Sorry, buddy. People are saying I work for some competitor and yet swallow anything and everything orama says, even though he is and has been for a long time on the knc payroll. That's just laughable.
I don't think you necessarily work for a competitor. I just think that you're a shady troll who might work for a competitor. I'll remind you of this, which is still entirely truthful: I have no ties to any other bitcoin or bitcoin related company. I am being 100% straight up and honest. And I am not bullshitlabs Josh  This is my stance from now on - I don't have to answer to internet trolls or KNC shills.
P.S. Anyone who want to hit the ignore button, go right ahead.
You don't want to clear things up, that's fine. Act shady and now be ignored.
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FUKT
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November 08, 2013, 12:18:26 AM |
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Well isn't this a nice familiar site...someone says blah blah blah and another says you are wrong, blah blah blah...
and now sorry for being off topic *ahem!*...
but anyone noticing that their Jupiters stop hashing randomly? The miner webpage inaccessible and the putty window crashes. When i reboot it starts up fine again, but 2 of the 3 crashed again after 4 hours. Will keep track of how long it takes for the next crash.
I get this maybe once every two days.
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November 08, 2013, 12:23:25 AM |
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AVENGER PLEASE POST PROOF THAT YOU HAVE A KNC MINER HASHING IN YOUR POSSESSION AND PLEASE POST THE FAULTS THAT THE UNIT HAS!
Why? Because if not then all his complains are worthless. If he were a simple minded representative from another company would any of his comments become invalid? The same comments which I have been making as well.
They are valid only if you have that problem. If you just take somebody's else problem and just make it worse and share it in other words than the original then that makes you a moron who has too much free time and like to just bash a company and you are a troll. I do realize there are people with problems and i would like to count them, but as i said before there is a (simple) RMA, USE IT! If you just cry like a moron on forums won't get your unit fixed. If you want your unit fixed, but no nothing about it than just cry like a bitch then sorry but you are just a tard or you are paid to spread FUD. ...
Another useless post. Where is the proof? Just one question to everyone: Did you do your best to solve the problem?
No replies same question. COUNTING PEOPLE WITH FAULTY UNITS/PROBLEMS: 1) retard The Avenger 2) CYPHER 3) FUKT 4) timmmers? 5) Puppet 6) ...*please continue the list*
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November 08, 2013, 12:25:02 AM |
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Well isn't this a nice familiar site...someone says blah blah blah and another says you are wrong, blah blah blah...
and now sorry for being off topic *ahem!*...
but anyone noticing that their Jupiters stop hashing randomly? The miner webpage inaccessible and the putty window crashes. When i reboot it starts up fine again, but 2 of the 3 crashed again after 4 hours. Will keep track of how long it takes for the next crash.
I get this maybe once every two days. Seems likely it is same problem I have: running out of RAM. The handler for that chooses something to kill and does nto always kill cgminer, last time mine had that it was something to do with the web page that was killed so instead of a working web page saying the miner was stopped I had a not-working web page. Actually maybe even a cannot be pinged machine. I powered down and back up to get it running again. I think we need a new "firmware" upgrade that gets rid of any RAM usage that isn't absolutely system-critical, as software bloat seems to have hit the limits of the beaglebone's RAM or some item of software in there has a memory leak. -MarkM-
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November 08, 2013, 12:25:38 AM |
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 Ignore list blackmail to force a forum participant to reveal confidential information... The "fuck you got mine" crowd is achieving a new level of vileness. Priceless!
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canth
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November 08, 2013, 12:28:55 AM |
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<snip>
COUNTING PEOPLE WITH FAULTY UNITS/PROBLEMS: 1) retard The Avenger 2) CYPHER 3) FUKT 4) timmmers? 5) Puppet 6) ...*please continue the list*
Technically Bargraphics and I had problems. I had 1 defective chip, replaced by RMA (took 1 week, due the RMA policy that I don't care for). Both Bar and I have had problems with the hosted service in the beginning and I had a failed miner which eventually got replaced. I would have liked 24/7 support for the hosted equipment, but they were reasonably responsive. I would have liked a faster RMA policy, but again, my problem got resolved. The difference between Bar, myself and say Avenger is that we're real customers and we're expecting reasonable outcomes.
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November 08, 2013, 12:30:15 AM |
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@FUKT: which firmware are you on, and when this happens do you just sort to restarting them?
@markm: If it is the RAM, are there any workarounds to prevent it so far? I had the same experinece, I couldn't ping the machines, i had to manually switch them off/on.
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canth
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November 08, 2013, 12:30:27 AM |
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 Ignore list blackmail to force a forum participant to reveal confidential information... The "fuck you got mine" crowd is achieving a new level of vileness. Priceless! Dude...he can just mail it to customer support and have O'rama confirm that he's a customer. There's no need for him to post an order number directly.
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FUKT
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November 08, 2013, 12:30:33 AM |
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 Ignore list blackmail to force a forum participant to reveal confidential information... The "fuck you got mine" crowd is achieving a new level of vileness. Priceless! +1
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