Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[AMAZONBTC]

Does the RJ45 cables come with the saturn?

NO.

Do i have to buy anything else besides the powersupply, 24hub switch and the RJ45 cables? (And of course, the Jupiter.)

[Epoch]

Has anyone measured the power draw of a Jupiter at the wall? I'm trying to see if a Seasonic X1250 is enough to power 2 of them.

[helmax]

in future is possible use jupiter or saturn for litecoin?

NO.

sad 

[Bitcoinorama]

in future is possible use jupiter or saturn for litecoin?

NO.

sad 

Scrypt mining requires on board memory.

[Bitcoinorama]

Has anyone measured the power draw of a Jupiter at the wall? I'm trying to see if a Seasonic X1250 is enough to power 2 of them.

I get 1W/GH/s, dependant on firmware that can be more, or less. Lowest I played with was 0.85W/GH/s in Atlanta, the most I've drawn has been 1.1W/GH/s. That's at the wall.

Personally I would stick to two separate PSUs in case for whatever reason you experience a fault with the PSU, or want to separate the units.

In answer to both yours and the guy above, the Coolermaster V850 is what's being used throughout the hosting, and in the lab, and has run faultlessly the entire time.

http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/powersupply/v-series-psu/v850.html

It's totally silent as well.

[bobsag3]

Has anyone measured the power draw of a Jupiter at the wall? I'm trying to see if a Seasonic X1250 is enough to power 2 of them.

Im pulling on average 630-650w per at the wall all on firmware .98. I would go with what bitcoinorama said- get a PSU per.

[FUKT]

Ah, all the new suckers about to sink their money into bitcoin hardware  God bless whichever "you can print money" story which brought them here.

I think sinking fiat is OK at this point, I'm shaking my head at people using mined coins to pay for more rigs from KNC. Its like selling shares in a company to buy more shares in the same company.

[spiccioli]

Has anyone measured the power draw of a Jupiter at the wall? I'm trying to see if a Seasonic X1250 is enough to power 2 of them.

Im pulling on average 630-650w per at the wall all on firmware .98. I would go with what bitcoinorama said- get a PSU per.

120V or 220-240V ?

spiccioli

[bobsag3]

Has anyone measured the power draw of a Jupiter at the wall? I'm trying to see if a Seasonic X1250 is enough to power 2 of them.

Im pulling on average 630-650w per at the wall all on firmware .98. I would go with what bitcoinorama said- get a PSU per.

120V or 220-240V ?

spiccioli

120V, all .98 and using a RM850 PSU.

[Bogart]

ok, just changed my saturn order for a jupiter.....ughhhh. I'm gonna puke.

Why?

[TheJuice]

I swore I was done with mining hardware. After this runup in BTC/USD, I wanted to take some BTCs off the table. So what do I do? BUY mining hardware.

If KNC is able to ship all by end of november, these should actually make +ROI, surprisingly.

TJ

[The Avenger]

Ah, all the new suckers about to sink their money into bitcoin hardware   God bless whichever "you can print money" story which brought them here.

I think sinking fiat is OK at this point, I'm shaking my head at people using mined coins to pay for more rigs from KNC. Its like selling shares in a company to buy more shares in the same company.

The November delivery machines will probably catch the tail end of the next difficulty change and push it once again. The difficulty jump after that one will probably be in line with what we saw in the last few ~40-50%.

By the end of this month - mid December, Jupiters are going to be earning - what? 0.1 BTC a day? 10 days per bitcoin? 14 days between difficulty jumps? That's not good to be chasing.

And once any of the other asic manufacturers start shipping, we'll probably see more ~40-50% rises in difficulty and that's pretty much game over for Jupiter's. And don't forget KNC China. They did their demo on November 2nd and I don't see where their order numbers are being tracked so people can tell how many they are selling/sold?

Sure you can do the mental compensation "Well, if I earn back 10btc and the price rises to $500, I broke even". Pure gamlbing on btc rising and rising and rising. You might as well just wait for btc to crash a little and buy. But with bitcoin, you never know. But buying hardware pretty much always means you are chasing and chasing.

I don't know that anyone truly realised how much hardware KNC were going to ship in October and the same might be true of November.

[bobsag3]

In for 2 for my GB's I hate you people

[Bargraphics]

40-50% difficulty rise would mean KnC delivers ~4ph worth of equipment in november. They delivered around 2.8ph in october. It will be closer to 25% jump more than likely.

Which will be around .3-.4 btc per day per jupiter

[Bogart]

40-50% difficulty rise would mean KnC delivers ~4ph worth of equipment in november. They delivered around 2.8ph in october. It will be closer to 25% jump more than likely.

They'd also been taking October delivery orders since early June.

When did they close the window on October delivery orders?

When did they start taking orders for November delivery?

[Bitcoinorama]

40-50% difficulty rise would mean KnC delivers ~4ph worth of equipment in november. They delivered around 2.8ph in october. It will be closer to 25% jump more than likely.

They'd also been taking October delivery orders since early June.

When did they close the window on October delivery orders?

When did they start taking orders for November delivery?

Beg of September.

[CYPER]

By the end of this month - mid December, Jupiters are going to be earning - what? 0.1 BTC a day? 10 days per bitcoin?

If you think that the network hashrate will be 20PH/s by end of the month you are delusional.

[seanrarey]

I have a payout from Bitminter that is still unconfirmed after 17 hours.
And I have no explanation why my previous 4 payouts (1 per day) have confirmed in less than an hour, but this one is being treated different.
What changed?

The maximum size of each bitcoin block is limited to 1 megabyte.  This is enforced by the client.

It's up to each miner (which means a pool operator or solo miner) to set their policy for what transactions get included in their blocks.  They can even choose not to include any.

It could be that there are a lot of competing transactions that keep yours from getting picked up, or a lot of blocks are being mined by miners with more selfish policies that don't choose to include [m]any transactions.

Also the network hashrate seems to have stabilized now, so the network is about back to the intended 1 block per 10 minutes, rather than 1 per 7 minutes or so that we saw as the hashrate was climbing.

(This issue would be a lot less severe if we could somehow get rid of SatoshiDice, which spams the blockchain with tons of useless transactions.)

Diversifying off of the big pools can only help... just saying... fellow miners...  

[ImI]

40-50% difficulty rise would mean KnC delivers ~4ph worth of equipment in november. They delivered around 2.8ph in october. It will be closer to 25% jump more than likely.

They'd also been taking October delivery orders since early June.

When did they close the window on October delivery orders?

When did they start taking orders for November delivery?

Beg of September.

Hey Orama,

are they on track for november?

What do you think, how long will they need to deliver this second batch?

[DeathAndTaxes]

KnC's gen 2 in March? As opposed to a more than half Gh in a few weeks?

AFTER the stragglers have finished delivering half a dozen Ph? As opposed to more than... in a few weeks?
 
maybe...

WTF?