Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Tehfiend]

...annnnnd this thread is starting to give me cancer again.

Yes they could have conducted this upgrade sale better but OMG I can barely read some of this crap. What is it that makes so many bitcoin miners insanely emotional and entitled?

If I was in KNC shoes I would make a preferred customers list and blacklist 90% of the people here since there is no lack of demand for their products and a seemingly infinite supply of emotionally immature customers with an overwhelming feeling of entitlement. They could save themselves a lot of grief that way...

If you are so unhappy close this thread, never come back and don't buy KNC products.

It's not 90% of the people. It's 5-10 people only

5-10 people making 90% of the posts

Touché. I need to remember this to conserve my faith in humanity

[davewr2013]

Moist company employees

Are they always that way in Sweden?

If you bake them slowly -- yes... 

[ElGabo]

...annnnnd this thread is starting to give me cancer again.

Yes they could have conducted this upgrade sale better but OMG I can barely read some of this crap. What is it that makes so many bitcoin miners insanely emotional and entitled?

If I was in KNC shoes I would make a preferred customers list and blacklist 90% of the people here since there is no lack of demand for their products and a seemingly infinite supply of emotionally immature customers with an overwhelming feeling of entitlement. They could save themselves a lot of grief that way...

If you are so unhappy close this thread, never come back and don't buy KNC products.

this

+1

[davewr2013]

...annnnnd this thread is starting to give me cancer again.

Yes they could have conducted this upgrade sale better but OMG I can barely read some of this crap. What is it that makes so many bitcoin miners insanely emotional and entitled?

If I was in KNC shoes I would make a preferred customers list and blacklist 90% of the people here since there is no lack of demand for their products and a seemingly infinite supply of emotionally immature customers with an overwhelming feeling of entitlement. They could save themselves a lot of grief that way...

If you are so unhappy close this thread, never come back and don't buy KNC products.

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+1

Or they could get together -- start a mining company and solicit our business.

I would give them a fair shake at earning my business.

I just don't want to see any of the problems they are complaining about..

As somebody once explained to me... "You can work for an idiot, or you can start your own company and let people complain about your idiocy." Sooooo I started my own company.... It's soooo much simpler. Now I never whine and complain....

[noodle73]

Today I visited the KnC offices in Stockholm. Primarily to exchange all my boards with the Die 0 problem, but more than that to take a look with my own eyes at the company we’ve all been following so closely.

First thing you notice is that the office is busy. It’s on the fifth/top floor of a nice enough building that’s been worked hard throughout it’s life. Their suite isn’t plush, but comfortable and functional. KnC haven’t squandered their profits on wood panelling and boardrooms. Alex gave me a tour of the place and the overriding sense is that this is a group of people right in the middle of their project, not even half way done. If there had been champagne and parties there was no sign of that now. White boards, engineers in huddles, job interviews and the gentle drone of people, well, just working hard.

Sam and Andreas came for a chat. They’re genuinely interested in their customers and how we’re all doing. The overriding feeling I got from them was of continued enthusiasm towards their project. They’re proud of what they’ve done and focused completely on how to improve and develop it further. There was no sense of “job done, we’re off to the Caribbean now.” Their talk is full of the lessons they’ve learned from the bumps along the way and actions to improve things for customers. After having my doubts I’d have to say that actually, customer and company are fully aligned.

Talking of which, I met Emilia and have to say you couldn’t find a nicer and more compassionate person. My boards were exchanged in a flash. 5 minutes I think, and she had gone out of her way to prepare everything ahead of time including testing them (I only had a couple of hours before my flight back). Meet them face to face and you realize just how difficult customer service over email is. We’ve all had frustrations dealing with the hiccups but trust me, you’re in safe hands with Emilia and Co. and they do care.

Lastly, things have worked out well for Alex. Bitcoinorama is working hard for them and enjoying Stockholm. He gave up an hour of his time to show me around and talk about all things Bitcoin, KnC and life. Lovely and genuine guy who deserves his success.

I got so much more out of meeting Alex and the KnC crew in person than looking for the nuances in page after page of posts. I realize it’s impossible for many, but if you have the chance to go there, take it. You won’t be disappointed and you’ll see how wide of the mark a lot of the speculation about the company is. A picture may well be worth a thousand words, but a face to face meeting is worth many thousands of pages of forum posts.

And what of my exchange cards that were the whole reason behind this jaunt? Hashing like demons, well above even the advertised rate. Just as Emilia promised…

[RoadStress]

i need help
wht commands i need use?

Try screen -dr. I think d is for detach.

[ElGabo]

All of you be mad of knc
Relax
Relax
Relax

Alll life is not only  mining btc
Go out with your girls
And relax
 

My girl is not worth the 25btc I have lost due to two faulty miners and late delivery . . .

Oh guy... Tell this to your girl....      (fuck, what a greed troll, btc more then a girl...)

Guys, I really don't know what's happening here.....

* ElGabo shocked

[Bogart]

Yeesh this is a lot of bickering.

Either they will offer a partial refund or something for the seemingly high modules shipping charge (more than the charge to ship a whole miner) and it will be KnC.rep++, or they won't and it will be KnC.rep--.

Either way, I plan to say no more on the subject absent any further developments.

[davewr2013]

Today I visited the KnC offices in Stockholm. Primarily to exchange all my boards with the Die 0 problem, but more than that to take a look with my own eyes at the company we’ve all been following so closely.

About what I expected to hear...

Thanks for the report.

[xstr8guy]

[ImI]

Today I visited the KnC offices in Stockholm....

Any info about the November Batch??

[the-skeptic]

Wow. I guess I am a dumb American. They taught us to say Schadenfreude without the final vowel (Like Freud the psychologist, unless I've been pronouncing that wrong, too) turning it into three syllables. I feel so burned. But at least I got two boards out of the deal.

Step 4. Profit

[FUKT]

All of you be mad of knc
Relax
Relax
Relax

Alll life is not only  mining btc
Go out with your girls
And relax
 

My girl is not worth the 25btc I have lost due to two faulty miners and late delivery . . .

Oh guy... Tell this to your girl....      (fuck, what a greed troll, btc more then a girl...)

Guys, I really don't know what's happening here.....

* ElGabo shocked

Its called a joke you fuckwit.

Whats interesting is if my Advokat in Sweden comes back with positive information then lets see how many people will jump on the band wagon as well.

[Bargraphics]

All of you be mad of knc
Relax
Relax
Relax

Alll life is not only  mining btc
Go out with your girls
And relax
 

My girl is not worth the 25btc I have lost due to two faulty miners and late delivery . . .

Oh guy... Tell this to your girl....      (fuck, what a greed troll, btc more then a girl...)

Guys, I really don't know what's happening here.....

* ElGabo shocked

Its called a joke you fuckwit.

Whats interesting is if my Advokat in Sweden comes back with positive information then lets see how many people will jump on the band wagon as well.

You are a riot man. Please continue to tell us how much you've lost and how angry you are at the world.

[xstr8guy]

What am I?  A 9 year old? 

[helmax]

thanks people

screen -rd

works great

[RoadStress]

thanks people

screen -rd

works great

You're welcome!

[Tehfiend]

Or they could get together -- start a mining company and solicit our business.

I would give them a fair shake at earning my business.

I just don't want to see any of the problems they are complaining about..

As somebody once explained to me... "You can work for an idiot, or you can start your own company and let people complain about your idiocy." Sooooo I started my own company.... It's soooo much simpler. Now I never whine and complain....

Exactly. We have the easy part in this amazing era of ASIC mining which mostly includes a ton of research and picking which pre-order to bet on which is a lot easier than bringing an ASIC to market.

I'm not saying we should just bend over and take it but some of this crap is just ridiculous. So many posts raging about how they got SCREWED by TERRIBLE KNC when they couldn't buy an upgrade when really they just got beat to the draw since they weren't savvy enough to properly prepare for the rush and have their trigger finger on a wallet properly loaded with BTC.

I just dream of a thread where people can dialog about creating and sharing solutions to the many problems us miners face instead of bitching and moaning over and over and over.

So with that thought, I'm really surprised KNC didn't take a better approach to this sale like they did with their initial pre-order. I really was impressed with how they first allowed people to register "pre-order interest" and then used that list to allow people to pre-order with a 7 day payment window after they had more solid details about their product. IMO they created one of the most legit pre-order queue's I've seen with no ZERO HOUR RUSH CRASHING WEBSITE LOTTO like I'm used too. I would think they could have easily created a list of their Mercury/Saturn customers and allowed them to register qty of modules they were interested in first and then open up payment a day later based on that data. What I think would have been really cool is if they used a "reverse priority" allowing people that experienced the longest delays to get first dibs. While this would have put me towards the end of the queue, it would really earned my respect and trust. Maybe they don't have the manpower for this but I know there are plenty of capable "enthusiasts" that would donate their time to create a system like this free of charge, myself included.

Regardless, I'm sure that this sale was more of an afterthought and will have no resemblance to what they have planned for their gen2 sales.

*crosses fingers*

[the-skeptic]

thanks people

screen -rd

works great

You're welcome!

I've always stacked the flags with individual dashes like:

screen -d -r

I didn't know it would read the flags combined. Neat.

Any idea why CGMiner loses the running count of accepted hashes at the bottom sometimes? Any magic to bring back part of a missing screen?
It's not worth the hassle of a reboot: I've nicknamed the bitchier of my two miners Apollo 13 for a reason.

[davewr2013]

thanks people

screen -rd

works great

You're welcome!

I've always stacked the flags with individual dashes like:

screen -d -r

I didn't know it would read the flags combined. Neat.

Any idea why CGMiner loses the running count of accepted hashes at the bottom sometimes? Any magic to bring back part of a missing screen?
It's not worth the hassle of a reboot: I've nicknamed the bitchier of my two miners Apollo 13 for a reason.

I just expand the puTTY screen -- everything re-sizes and corrects itself --- or so it seems to me. Grab the bottom right -- pull a bit -- mostly down and everything prettys up.