Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[The Avenger]

The shipping cost to us will need to be paid by customer and we will pay for the shipping cost back. Please declare value as 1000 US dollar."

I'm back! Briefly. Who could resist these developments?  

I refer everyone to my post yesterday.

I've been proven right before and I will be again. I'm confident, based on past performance and the attitude of greed and feeling no obligations towards their customers that is now plainly obvious, that this time round KNC's burning of it's customers is going to be epic. They get to spend your money, so it will be you that gets burned.

All the clues are their, the cracks in the foundation.

How correct was I? Just one day later it comes out what total scum knc are.

I said knc were another sleazy asic company and they prove it beyond doubt today. This is their t&c's:

Any return cost will be charged to the Purchaser, unless the return has been subject to the prior approval of KnCMiner.

They have approved/authorised the return but insist bobsag pays and commit a criminal offence by lying about how much it costs - to save them money! That's just plain GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDD. And total criminality. And shows no sense of obligation to their customers who funded them with millions. It's disgusting behaviour, from a disgusting company.

And I see shillorama's posted here a number of times since bob's post and doesn't even respond, pretends nothing happened. What a bunch of fucking criminal crooks knc are turning out to be.

And now they are hocking their $13 garbage for $10k? https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-second-batch
$ 9,995.00

You paid ... $13k... now it's 10k, because no one wants garbage from a bunch of crooks that will be totally useless when it arrives (faulty) in 6 months time  

KNC - they are such a "good" and "reliable" company

Can't wait for their January sale, where they will sell bobsag's broken $1000 machine to you for $6000!

Good luck to all you loyal knc customers who ordered a knobtune. You really are going to need it.

Too all you who with the sense NOT to order again from the money lovin' criminals - happy hashing in 2014!

[vesperwillow]

The shipping cost to us will need to be paid by customer and we will pay for the shipping cost back. Please declare value as 1000 US dollar."

I'm back! Briefly. Who could resist these developments?  

I refer everyone to my post yesterday.

I've been proven right before and I will be again. I'm confident, based on past performance and the attitude of greed and feeling no obligations towards their customers that is now plainly obvious, that this time round KNC's burning of it's customers is going to be epic. They get to spend your money, so it will be you that gets burned.

All the clues are their, the cracks in the foundation.

How correct was I? Just one day later it comes out what total scum knc are.

I said knc were another sleazy asic company and they prove it beyond doubt today. This is their t&c's:

Any return cost will be charged to the Purchaser, unless the return has been subject to the prior approval of KnCMiner.

They have approved/authorised the return but insist bobsag pays and commit a criminal offence by lying about how much it costs - to save them money! That's just plain GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDD. And total criminality. And shows no sense of obligation to their customers who funded them with millions. It's disgusting behaviour, from a disgusting company.

And I see shillorama's posted here a number of times since bob's post and doesn't even respond, pretends nothing happened. What a bunch of fucking criminal crooks knc are turning out to be.

And now they are hocking their $13 garbage for $10k? https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-second-batch
$ 9,995.00

You paid ... $13k... now it's 10k, because no one wants garbage from a bunch of crooks that will be totally useless when it arrives (faulty) in 6 months time  

KNC - they are such a "good" and "reliable" company

Can't wait for their January sale, where they will sell bobsag's broken $1000 machine to you for $6000!

Good luck to all you loyal knc customers who ordered a knobtune. You really are going to need it.

Too all you who with the sense NOT to order again from the money lovin' criminals - happy hashing in 2014!

DId you catch the insurance price they instruct people to use? $1,000. That means that's pretty much their inventory cost.

Gotta love padding.

[PaulyC]

I dropped a good 4-5 Gh/s with 99.1-tune, from the last .99-tuning FW. October Saturn.
just fyi.
Not sure if bert mod works with this one?. I haven't gotten any warning for cores off/on via Putty.
So I'm going back for now.

[jelin1984]

Where is the new firmware ? Link ?

[bitcoinermax]

The shipping cost to us will need to be paid by customer and we will pay for the shipping cost back. Please declare value as 1000 US dollar."

........Not only do they want me to pay return shipping, but also to undermark the customs. Pretty sure its illegal to do that... not happy with a establish company asking me to do that.
[/quote]

Bobsag - for the customs declaration, one possibility is simply to state "return of non functioning device to manufacturer" or some such wording. As a broken machine is worth a lot less than a functioning one, as long as you state this or the equivalent, I don't think you will be underdeclaring the value. Actually other than perhaps for insurance purposes (maybe $1000 is the value of the rest of the parts, or that KNC would like as the insurance value?) there is no reason not to simply state "NCV" (no commercial value). So I think you should be fine with stating the $1000....

Hope this helps. Good luck with the rest!

[Billsonl]

Upgrading to the latest firmware (99.1-tune), both the October & November boxes initially increased about 10-15 gh/s.  Initially it did not work on BitMinter.  I got the "connecting to cgminer api fail."  So, i switch to Eligius and my hash rate increased.  After about 30 minutes, it's slowly dropping to the way was before the update.

[PaulyC]

um. one page back.. it's unofficial. honestly i would caution till maybe the full version hits. switched back to .99-tuning where I was getting rock solid 284 Gh/s.. still haven't broken 279 Gh/s after about 45 min from switching to the unofficial 99.1-tune to the 99-tuning. I might have to do a reboot.

[Searing]

Batch 2 jupiters released wtf
https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-second-batch?resellerid=352

yeah this is getting interesting....with cointerra and hashfast prob trickling out till say march/april....BFL being say 3 months late...KNC being early..this stuff could all dump in march/april prob the same week with my luck

what we looking at for Neptune batch 1's    0.1 btc a day?.....

not trying to be doom and gloom here....but whats the MATH (i'm  doofus at math) ..better minds then me opinions?

[CYPER]

Batch 2 jupiters released wtf
https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-second-batch?resellerid=352

yeah this is getting interesting....with cointerra and hashfast prob trickling out till say march/april....BFL being say 3 months late...KNC being early..this stuff could all dump in march/april prob the same week with my luck

what we looking at for Neptune batch 1's    0.1 btc a day?.....

not trying to be doom and gloom here....but whats the MATH (i'm  doofus at math) ..better minds then me opinions?

I will be optimistic and say that Neptune will be 5TH/s.
For 0.10BTC a day we need a difficulty of 25 billion.
25 billion difficulty = 179PH/s = 35800 Neptunes.

With batches of 1200 that seems highly unlikely even with all the competition around.

[Searing]

Batch 2 jupiters released wtf
https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-second-batch?resellerid=352

yeah this is getting interesting....with cointerra and hashfast prob trickling out till say march/april....BFL being say 3 months late...KNC being early..this stuff could all dump in march/april prob the same week with my luck

what we looking at for Neptune batch 1's    0.1 btc a day?.....

not trying to be doom and gloom here....but whats the MATH (i'm  doofus at math) ..better minds then me opinions?

I will be optimistic and say that Neptune will be 5TH/s.
For 0.10BTC a day we need a difficulty of 25 billion.
25 billion difficulty = 179PH/s = 35800 Neptunes.

With batches of 1200 that seems highly unlikely even with all the competition around.

er duh...batches of 1200 I must have missed that memo...ok more clear now thanks

[Syke]

I will be optimistic and say that Neptune will be 5TH/s.
For 0.10BTC a day we need a difficulty of 25 billion.
25 billion difficulty = 179PH/s = 35800 Neptunes.

With batches of 1200 that seems highly unlikely even with all the competition around.

I wouldn't count on Neptunes being 5 TH/s. Cooling that beast would be crazy.

I wouldn't count on HashFast not shipping. And Cointerra not shipping. And Black Arrow not shipping. And BitMine not shipping. And BFL not ship...wait, you can count on BFL not shipping.

[Searing]

I will be optimistic and say that Neptune will be 5TH/s.
For 0.10BTC a day we need a difficulty of 25 billion.
25 billion difficulty = 179PH/s = 35800 Neptunes.

With batches of 1200 that seems highly unlikely even with all the competition around.

I wouldn't count on Neptunes being 5 TH/s. Cooling that beast would be crazy.

I wouldn't count on HashFast not shipping. And Cointerra not shipping. And Black Arrow not shipping. And BitMine not shipping. And BFL not ship...wait, you can count on BFL not shipping.

yeah my point....hashfast and cointerra get up to speed what middle of feb/march at best?....BFL if they have their act together only 3 months late (march/april) ...KNC early as usual (march/april) black arrow already says march/april

and yeah I was thinking maybe KNC would up it to 3.5th...4th at a streach

(i'm as jumpy as an old maid....waiting for the sailors to hit port...its the 'waiting' arggggh...)

[sudya_dred]

Need help. SD full image of October Saturn (Saturn-B52).

https://i.imgur.com/GhfJ0aF.png
https://i.imgur.com/X38JhI9.png

[CYPER]

Need help. SD full image of October Saturn (Saturn-B52).

Max the voltage for 1 minute until the dies revive then drop back to normal.

[Bitcoinorama]

Orama will the new firmware be applied to hosted machines too?

Undoubtedly, but perhaps when the update is finalised and official. Treat this like the 0.98.1 beta, I'll probably get in trouble, no one else was here to sign it off, but it's still stable unofficial release.

We played with it the last 48 hours and it helped out on spec the Nov Jupiters pointed at Eligius and contains the latest CGMiner release without you having to code anything yourself, but it's not the full fat update V would have been satisfied with releasing. Knew most would want something rather than nothing and I missed my flight home because of this as a laptop that chose not to update it's clock, so enjoy of it helps you. No harm otherwise.

[r1senfa17h]

Orama,

Thank you for everything you've done for us, we appreciate it! Would you be willing to answer a few speculative questions?

• In your opinion, what is the next milestone in the development of the Neptune?
• What do you think is the biggest obstacle to shipping the Neptune sooner rather than later?
• Do you think it's likely that the Neptune will continue to use PCI-E power connectors and require multiple ATX power supplies?

[pvnamk19]

Hi BitcoinOrama,

I just send you 0.009999 BTC for a cup of coffee while waiting for the next plane.
Merry Chrismas and Happy new Year!

BTW, this unofficial firmware does not solve Die #0 problem and I do hope KnC fix that problems first and then tuning up in 2014.

[Unacceptable]

Batch 2 jupiters released wtf
https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-second-batch?resellerid=352

yeah this is getting interesting....with cointerra and hashfast prob trickling out till say march/april....BFL being say 3 months late...KNC being early..this stuff could all dump in march/april prob the same week with my luck

what we looking at for Neptune batch 1's    0.1 btc a day?.....

not trying to be doom and gloom here....but whats the MATH (i'm  doofus at math) ..better minds then me opinions?

My guess    16Petahash by march/april...easily 

Which would mean diff @ 2345440000,for 500GH @ $653.97 per BTC(current exchange rate):

                   Coins                Dollars
per Day    0.10720942 BTC   $70.11
per Week  0.75046593 BTC   $490.78
per Month 3.25916632 BTC   $2,131.40

Good luck!!!!!!!! 

[dracore]

Batch 2 jupiters released wtf
https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-second-batch?resellerid=352

Why is this batch 2 again?  I thought they already sold batch 2 for like $13K???  and now this is back to $10K?

[el_rlee]

Batch 2 jupiters released wtf
https://www.kncminer.com/products/neptune-second-batch

Why is this batch 2 again?  I thought they already sold batch 2 for like $13K???  and now this is back to $10K?

No, that was the second lot of batch 1...

More interestingly is that "Refund in US$ up to shipment" disappeared from the product description....