Searing
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May 11, 2014, 04:36:07 AM |
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We have a ton of broken used KNC garbage, and they aren't responsive at all to RMA requests anymore. I've been waiting all week to RMA a bad controller. I'm still testing and assembling all the shit with zip ties, takes forever but it does work. The first batch was 75% broken rate, the remaining batch around 20%. Some are burned up from long term "abuse". Even the "new packaging" resulted in resistors getting torn off by the cases. All the shit is USED and the fans are dirty with some sooty black shit. The foam bullshit cases just plain don't work and suck donkey balls.
Pretty much everyone that got the Franken-Jupiter option got Franken-Fucked KNC style. It's looking like the best option is to have the boards repaired by somebody handy with a soldering iron.
These guys used to be so good, what the hell happened?
G R E E D
those 400 frankenjupier people without word on Neptune imho would probably (most) asked for a refund...by shipping them used crap 400 folks (knc's figure) at 10,200 a neptune CA refund say....that is 4,080,000 usd they DID NOT HAVE TO LIKELY REFUND. Now imho if they woulda sent it in boxes that worked on the get go..decent packing etc....the 3TH folks may have grumbled about this but none of them would have really given a damn if they were mining promptly...but with the fried boards (likely) ...no real decent miner as a unit...and bad shipping...they screwed up...and they don't want to lose the 'tricky' savings they made of $4,080,000.00 usd imho So hey lets Stall and play RMA tag ..blame the shipper ..blame the victim....whatever it takes...I mean really if they cared about reputation vs the $$$ they saved...they simply would have let everyone RMA their units back and give them a refund. anyway my take on this drama Searing |
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Phoenix1969
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May 11, 2014, 05:11:02 AM |
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What's your theory on how the second shipment fell apart so easy again? Used bubble wrap with "Grease" on it??
Same group of a-holes sending more broken crap. Pretty f'cking simple. I'm down with that. But I still say it's worth a try touching those solder points up a bit those broken boards. Others would say anything to keep more hashpower from coming online. |
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xstr8guy
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May 11, 2014, 05:13:26 AM |
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What's your theory on how the second shipment fell apart so easy again? Used bubble wrap with "Grease" on it??
The bubble wrap and antistatic bags (yes, my second shipment of boards were in bags) were definitely used, dirty and sticky. I can see how components were pulled off by simply removing them from the packaging although that wasn't my experience. I had only one resistor fall off from both batches. And that was when I was installing an i30. It may have been mildly bumped and just popped off. |
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Phoenix1969
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May 11, 2014, 05:14:16 AM |
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What's your theory on how the second shipment fell apart so easy again? Used bubble wrap with "Grease" on it??
The bubble wrap and antistatic bags (yes, my second shipment of boards were in bags) were definitely used, dirty and sticky. I can see how components were pulled off by simply removing them from the packaging although that wasn't my experience. I had only one resistor fall off from both batches. And that was when I was installing an i30. It may have been mildly bumped and just popped off. Thank you for confirming. In your experience, do you think the "Grease" was something extra, other than thermal paste rubbing around? The absence of anti-static bags seems a huge red flag too... did anyone get anti-static bags on theirs? |
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tolip_wen
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May 11, 2014, 05:18:06 AM |
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What's your theory on how the second shipment fell apart so easy again? Used bubble wrap with "Grease" on it??
I have not seen evidence of second shipment PCB damaged. I'm basing my theory on the 'unpacking video'. It shows PCB wrapped seperately from heatsinks, all in bubble wrap. If a PCB passes Power On Self Test and functional test, chances of parts falling off are remote. The pessimist camp has stated PCB have passed rigorous multi month burn in. It is 'possible' that KnC re-wrapped already damaged product. I can't imagine why they would 'knowingly' do so, yet I can imagine some here thinking so. I can imagine a broken process allowing it to happen. I know people who could fuck up a wet dream, some of them have jobs. (shudder) I have not seen the evidence and IMneverHO your theory has too many holes to champion. Time will tell, fact trumps theory. I have had previous theories negated in this thread, that is the beauty of the internet! YMMV  |
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May 11, 2014, 05:20:52 AM |
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Yeah, its all part of the fun questing for answers.... fun... sigh.
I just hope things shape up before the next shipments
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xstr8guy
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May 11, 2014, 05:24:12 AM |
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What's your theory on how the second shipment fell apart so easy again? Used bubble wrap with "Grease" on it??
The bubble wrap and antistatic bags (yes, my second shipment of boards were in bags) were definitely used, dirty and sticky. I can see how components were pulled off by simply removing them from the packaging although that wasn't my experience. I had only one resistor fall off from both batches. And that was when I was installing an i30. It may have been mildly bumped and just popped off. Thank you for confirming. In your experience, do you think the "Grease" was something extra, other than thermal paste rubbing around? The bubble wrap was just plain filthy. It looked like it could have been pulled out of dumpsters. If I had to guess, I would say it was more than just TIM. I've just had a taste and I'd say there is definitely some spilled soda, peanut butter and ketchup mixed in there. Oh, and some really good german sausage grease.  Edit: Oddly, I didn't detect any swedish meatball residue. |
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May 11, 2014, 08:59:45 AM |
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value of goods - decent dar - 13k usd
packaging? used buble wrap...
i think, they are just doing maintaince on their DC, pulling off bad / underperforming modules, boards and shipping this crap into customers
that way they save on elecricity, labor and future maintaince costs (and trash exposal/recycling costs)
Briliant!
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May 11, 2014, 09:02:01 AM |
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is anyone going to do anything about this?
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Biffa
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May 11, 2014, 10:28:46 AM |
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The bubble wrap was just plain filthy. It looked like it could have been pulled out of dumpsters. If I had to guess, I would say it was more than just TIM. I've just had a taste and I'd say there is definitely some spilled soda, peanut butter and ketchup mixed in there. Oh, and some really good german sausage grease. Edit: Oddly, I didn't detect any swedish meatball residue. Ok thats just gross..  |
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yelloyello
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May 11, 2014, 01:06:50 PM |
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For what its worth....
After a week Super Jupiter Mining there is the first btc.
Forget about ROI.
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jelin1984
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May 11, 2014, 01:08:10 PM |
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how many percent of btc make each day super jupiter?
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yelloyello
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May 11, 2014, 01:31:47 PM |
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My average is 2.6 TH/s
0.165... btc/day
Only one of my living cards reach the promised 180 GH/s.
Send KNC diagnostic files, offered them Teamviewer access so that they can see for themselves,
send screenshots of the Advanched page and Putty, send screenshots of the broken parts.
I use 9 PSU's each 600 W. Power and cooling enough.
As longer as I mine, (for 1 week now) as more cards are giving troubles like failed dies.
Still waiting a respond from KNC.
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jelin1984
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May 11, 2014, 01:34:12 PM |
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never roi i think which pool?
mining?
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joeventura
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May 11, 2014, 02:07:23 PM |
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For what its worth....
After a week Super Jupiter Mining there is the first btc.
Forget about ROI.
Only 21 more BTC to go before you get to Zero!! 18 more months and you are good to go!! Let this be a warning to everyone else GET YOUR REFUND NOW!! |
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smoothrunnings
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May 11, 2014, 02:11:15 PM |
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For what its worth....
After a week Super Jupiter Mining there is the first btc.
Forget about ROI.
Depends what you consider your ROI to be? day, week, month or year? If you don't count your electricity costs, some people don't pay for hydro, it could walk away with $9500 in a year. This is based on if the difficulty goes up by 30% each round and the price of bitcoin stays at $482 over the process. The other option would be to sell your rig and put your money into the stock market and watch is crash, at which point you will be dirt poor without more bitcoins than what you have now. |
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smoothrunnings
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May 11, 2014, 02:13:32 PM |
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For what its worth....
After a week Super Jupiter Mining there is the first btc.
Forget about ROI.
Only 21 more BTC to go before you get to Zero!! 18 more months and you are good to go!! Let this be a warning to everyone else GET YOUR REFUND NOW!! FEAR MONGER get off this forum NOW! |
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yelloyello
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May 11, 2014, 02:27:57 PM |
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I'm mining at Eligius.
I placed the mining of the Juptiter on a seperate wallet.
Selling the hardware is not a good option, because I want to be a good seller.
(I'm running also a business)
So I hope that KNC helps me out. Otherwise, I bring the cards back to Sweden in person.
I payed 10K so I want the profit or fun from it.....
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smoothrunnings
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May 11, 2014, 02:29:15 PM |
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never roi i think which pool?
mining?
Swimming. I get you are upset with KNC so say your peace and move on. In society people who get upset about something and do nothing but get in other peoples faces who are somewhat or satisfied suffer from some form of mental instability and need to be treated. Are you one those people Joeventura? I don't mind if this post get yank from this thread but to be honest all your posts fear monger posts should stripped out too, and not just from this thread but all the other threads too, unless Admin believes in allowing unstable people to have free reign of this site. |
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smoothrunnings
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May 11, 2014, 02:34:43 PM |
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I'm mining at Eligius.
I placed the mining of the Juptiter on a seperate wallet.
Selling the hardware is not a good option, because I want to be a good seller.
(I'm running also a business)
So I hope that KNC helps me out. Otherwise, I bring the cards back to Sweden in person.
I payed 10K so I want the profit or fun from it.....
I agree that KNC should help you out. I am sure they will, I just wish they would be a little more forth coming so that people would understand what's going on instead of making up stories. I suspect though they might have either had a manufacture issue in their own facilities or they decided to outsource it and the company they used did a poor job, either way they should have said something to claim everyone down. On a different note I am trying to find out if they are still keeping their words that the speed of the Neptune's may be faster closer to their shipping date; well I think it says something like "they reserve the right to increase the speed the at the time shipping" or something to that affect. Since they do say say that 3TH/s in their recent news update, so I don't know it's confusing to me. LOL |
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