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[JayJuanGee]

News flash asshole: GIVE IT UP. NO ONE GIVES A SHIT. PLEASE GO AWAY.

Back to /ignore

Awww.... Now you've hurt my feelings. Jeepers.

Yes I realize that there is a significant subgroup herein, for which the truth is irrelevant. News flash asshole: those ain't the people to whom I am speaking.

Jbreher:

You seem to be devolving into a nearly constant altcoin pumper who is attempting to act like the various alt coins are actually bitcoin.  Seems like you are the one who no longer fits in this thread, rather than trying to suggest that your ideas are reflective of the true vision of bitcoin or the current rule sets of bitcoin...

in other words, you are trolling bitcoin rather than being representative of the current bitcoin direction, which includes segwit and small blocks..   which you fail and refuse to concede such actual facts.

and now you decide what is the "vision" bitcoin and consequently the topic of this thread?

Bullshit.  I have not decided the vision of bitcoin.  I have merely referred to what is going on with various bigblocker nutjobs that come into the thread and they want to talk about some stupid ass alt coin and to pump it or they want to pump the big blocker agenda, which has largely been attack on bitcoin since mid 2015 starting with XT, then classic then emergent consensus and then segwit2x - and variations on those dumb themes that are largely attempting to undermine the governance of bitcoin  - however they poise the issues as if there are technical problems in bitcoin and suggest that bitcoin is broken and suggest that bitcoin needs to increase its blockchain.. blah blah blah...

Yes, repeated themes.  I am not dictating the thread because the thread has always been about bitcoin, and there have have been frequent trolls coming in here to down talk bitcoin and to change the topic and to pump their other coins, including recent pumping of the various nonsenses of Bcash and segwit2x

You are a little dictator

Should I even ask about your mischaracterization?  Probably not because it seems both inaccurate and off topic.  I have little to no power, except possibly the power of persuasion, which frequently is not the greatest, either.  hahahaha 

If I can not remember, who defined the "vision" bitcoin was Satoshi; and you, me, and everyone in this forum are here for the same reason.

What the fuck?  You trying to describe some false sense of unity? 

The bitcoin community is diverse and people come to bitcoin for a variety of reasons, and some have been involved longer than others, and frequently people are free to express their opinions, including some of the nonsense and off topic bullshit of your responsive post, here.

Is not that the idea of a forum? discuss and exchange different opinions freely, in our case on the future of bitcoin and what we think is better in the short, medium and long term? You can not argue with people who think the same as you, let alone build knowledge.

O.k... for a second, here, you are starting to make some sense.

You had been jumping in and not making sense, but possibly you are making some sense, just possibly.


So, yeah, sure people can come in to the thread and talk about bitcoin and talk about its price speculation, but sometimes the discussion goes quite far afield into the alt coin pumping territory, and even if those posts are not deleted, that does not mean that they should not be called out for their bullshit.

Jbreher and his posts have been devolving more and more and more, especially just prior to the bcash fork, and there is nothing wrong with pointing out that he is drifiting into being off topic, and perhaps he should take himself and his devolving Bcash, altcoin, and segwit2x pumping theories to other threads or maybe take them to the r/btc reddit threads that ironically still have bitcoin in their name in spite of their thematic pumping of bcash and segwit2x and other alts bullshit.

It is for this reason that many call this place a "small echo chamber", for trolls like you.

Who the fuck you talking about, your r/btc brethren?  I am hardly a fucking troll.  If you think that I am a troll merely because I am arguing that bcash pumpers and segwit2x pumpers are off topic, then you surely have perverted ideas about what is a troll.

By the way, nutjob Gab0, I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, and providing various personal topical perspectives about bitcoin - and sure, once in a while I will respond to various off topic posts or bring up various alt coins in connection with their various possible affects on bitcoin and the bitcoin prices or price movements or attempting to give estimations on possible bitcoin price directions; however, you will be hard-pressed to find me pumping any kind of agenda or misinformation (and especially not on purpose) - except perhaps being somewhat bullish about bitcoin and its future prospects.. so I have consistently been largely an accumulator of bitcoins - even though I reveal various of my btc trading strategies, too.. and frequently respond to various misinformation of trolls rather than perpetuating trolling type themes.... so it may serve you to look up what the fuck is a troll than to attempt to pigeonhole me into your lunacy or fantasy definitions of what is supposedly a troll.

[jojo69]

Sorry jbreher, nothing against you personally, but a lot of bigblockers motives are pretty clear, and I find them unsavory.

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

Charlie Lee (SatoshiLite)  - a clear No 2X supporter AND his fanboys voted more than 50% FOR the 2x ...

So we see too much FUD in the forums - relax and see the 2nd step of the compromise in the making

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/904565466667958273

Sure Twitter vote results are mostly rubbish, but given his followers + bias this is more than funny.

That poll hardly says anything about segwit2x, except that the responders to the poll are divided.. .. and if the ultimate deciders are divided, then likely segwit2x will not go through because in order to go through it is going to need overwhelming consensus rather than some random divided group about some vague topic about what the fuck iit is that they are supposedly supporting, exactly.

[jbreher]

..., I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, ...

Serious question, JJG - do you think that this entitles you to some sort of special deference?

[BayAreaCoins]

..., I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, ...

Serious question, JJG - do you think that this entitles you to some sort of special deference?

Duh it does... don't you know how cryptocurrency forums work?! 

[BayAreaCoins]

WTF I can't post here and have my shitty advertising signature post as well... wtf is Bitcointalk becoming?!?!?!?!?!?!

[JayJuanGee]

..., I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, ...

Serious question, JJG - do you think that this entitles you to some sort of special deference?

Seriously, I don't raise such status card too often; however, it should cause me some deference in comparison to the assessment of a newbie troll such as Gab0  - who seems to want to summarize my contributions to the thread as if I am a supposed troll when s/he/ it is hardly even put any stake into the WO history - or shared various personal perspectives or information over an extended period of time.

So, yeah, there is some deference possibly when some of the participants in this thread (Including yours truly) have contributed a lot of personal details and engaged in genuine attempts to share bitcoin information with others (even sharing information with trolls that frequently have questionable motives and questionable contributions - especially when they are relative newbies engaging in nonsubstantive baseless personal attacks.. without hardly providing any of their own material but merely engaging in conclusive and baseless attacks of members who have shared extensive amounts of information).

[Lauda]

Sorry jbreher, nothing against you personally, but a lot of bigblockers motives are pretty clear, and I find them unsavory.

He's a paid baboon from Ver & co. Don't get bamboozled by those trying to pretend like they're acting in *your* best interest. They got their big block fork that almost nobody wants to use (they barely achieve sub 5% utilization when blocks are frequent).

WTF I can't post here and have my shitty advertising signature post as well... wtf is Bitcointalk becoming?!?!?!?!?!?!

You're slow.
Can we get back to the price talk and get away from the BCH/x2 altcoin shilling? Thanks OP.

[jbreher]

..., I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, ...

Serious question, JJG - do you think that this entitles you to some sort of special deference?

Seriously, I don't raise such status card too often; however, it should cause me some deference

Dude... get over yourself. This is your first Bitcoin pump, right?

I mean, I salute you for sticking with it through the long winter of 2014 (that lasted years)*, but you have no fucking idea. Go stand in the corner until you've been through _several_ boom/bust cycles.

* no, really - I do

With a dunce hat on, contemplating how stupid your 'deference' pronouncement sounds.

[jbreher]

Sorry jbreher, nothing against you personally, but a lot of bigblockers motives are pretty clear, and I find them unsavory.

He's a paid baboon...

See, there you go again - making accusations which you are unable to support.

I mean, I have my suspicions about who might be paying you, but I don't make up statements of 'supposed fact' about it.

[hv_]

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Charlie Lee (SatoshiLite)  - a clear No 2X supporter AND his fanboys voted more than 50% FOR the 2x ...

So we see too much FUD in the forums - relax and see the 2nd step of the compromise in the making

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/904565466667958273

Sure Twitter vote results are mostly rubbish, but given his followers + bias this is more than funny.

That poll hardly says anything about segwit2x, except that the responders to the poll are divided.. .. and if the ultimate deciders are divided, then likely segwit2x will not go through because in order to go through it is going to need overwhelming consensus rather than some random divided group about some vague topic about what the fuck iit is that they are supposedly supporting, exactly.

... exactly same as with SW ...  so to unify such a division / split there was this SW2x compromise (first step to get UASF guys into the boat, second  all the rest) - hope you get this some time, but this might be not important here. We should rather concentrate on good discussion behavior  agreed?

[x2666]

Sorry jbreher, nothing against you personally, but a lot of bigblockers motives are pretty clear, and I find them unsavory.

He's a paid baboon from Ver & co. Don't get bamboozled by those trying to pretend like they're acting in *your* best interest. They got their big block fork that almost nobody wants to use (they barely achieve sub 5% utilization when blocks are frequent).

WTF I can't post here and have my shitty advertising signature post as well... wtf is Bitcointalk becoming?!?!?!?!?!?!

You're slow.
Can we get back to the price talk and get away from the BCH/x2 altcoin shilling? Thanks OP.

As far as altcoin shilling goes, you literally PAY people with an ad campaign to shill your shitcoin. You of all people are in no position to speak morally against such a thing. That's not even what's occurring either, the BCH discussion is spearheaded by individuals who actually believe in the fundamentals of their position. We don't resort to leaving unfounded false accusation on reps, deleting posts, replying with intentionally obfuscating spam posts.

BTC shilling against BCH comes from the fear of the unknown and the inability to grasp the concepts at play. BTC has been hijacked by segwitcoin. Time will prove us right.

[JayJuanGee]

..., I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, ...

Serious question, JJG - do you think that this entitles you to some sort of special deference?

Seriously, I don't raise such status card too often; however, it should cause me some deference

Dude... get over yourself. This is your first Bitcoin pump, right?

I mean, I salute you for sticking with it through the long winter of 2014 (that lasted years)*, but you have no fucking idea. Go stand in the corner until you've been through _several_ boom/bust cycles.

* no, really - I do

With a dunce hat on, contemplating how stupid your 'deference' pronouncement sounds.

Stop trying to proclaim some kind of patronizing expertise when it comes to bitcoin exponential growth periods and/or your supposed informed life experiences. 

There is no exact litmus test that qualifies participation; however, you have been proving yourself to be obsessed with bigblock politics and those kinds of thematic distractions, and it almost comes off as you are getting worse.  Are you BJA?  Hahahahahah.. remember what happened to him... he got more and more nutso, and then pretty soon he shorted himself into oblivion.  You possibly may paint yourself into the same corner, especially if you put your money where your mouth is and bet on the fucked up centralized projects of bcash and/or segwit2x and some of those other bigblocker nutjob attacks upon the real bitcoin...

So being in a first exponential growth period does not fucking matter.  Each of us has varying experiences and ways that we can contribute to this WO thread and/or substantive bitcoin discussions.  So this is not about me.. blah blah blah..so stop trying to distract with such off topicness.. You, on the other hand, might be devolving beyond any possible recovery in your ongoing pumping of alts and your ongoing denigrations of the real bitcoin and its already agreed to rule sets (that involves segwit, by the way         ).

[marcus_of_augustus]

I wouldn't want to add to the state of chaos ... but if the baboon scat-show doesn't calm down a tad I will go there.

i thing gold is going to catch a major bid? where's roach, did he miss his ride?

[jbreher]

..., I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, ...

Serious question, JJG - do you think that this entitles you to some sort of special deference?

Seriously, I don't raise such status card too often; however, it should cause me some deference

Dude... get over yourself. This is your first Bitcoin pump, right?

I mean, I salute you for sticking with it through the long winter of 2014 (that lasted years)*, but you have no fucking idea. Go stand in the corner until you've been through _several_ boom/bust cycles.

* no, really - I do

With a dunce hat on, contemplating how stupid your 'deference' pronouncement sounds.

Stop trying to proclaim some kind of patronizing expertise when it comes to bitcoin exponential growth periods and/or your supposed informed life experiences. 

There is no exact litmus test that qualifies participation;

Jeebus. You're like a leaf, shaking in the wind.

Pick a position and _own_ it, ferchrissakes. Your spineless situational adaptation is laid bare... for all to observe.

[JayJuanGee]

[edited out]

Charlie Lee (SatoshiLite)  - a clear No 2X supporter AND his fanboys voted more than 50% FOR the 2x ...

So we see too much FUD in the forums - relax and see the 2nd step of the compromise in the making

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/904565466667958273

Sure Twitter vote results are mostly rubbish, but given his followers + bias this is more than funny.

That poll hardly says anything about segwit2x, except that the responders to the poll are divided.. .. and if the ultimate deciders are divided, then likely segwit2x will not go through because in order to go through it is going to need overwhelming consensus rather than some random divided group about some vague topic about what the fuck iit is that they are supposedly supporting, exactly.

... exactly same as with SW ... 

Are you fucking nuts?  It is not "exactly same as with SW".


Come out from under the bridge, hv_.  Segwit is already a done deal.  Where have you been?  Segwit was locked in, and then it was activated.  Hello?  The same is not true about 2x blah blah blah...

The segwit ship has sailed, are you going to jump on board or live in the past in some kind of fantasy world, acting as if it still is an issue... done deal = segwit.  Are you with me?  You understand?

so to unify such a division / split there was this SW2x compromise (first step to get UASF guys into the boat, second  all the rest) - hope you get this some time, but this might be not important here. We should rather concentrate on good discussion behavior  agreed?

You seem to be referring to the past..... We are beyond that.  We are now in segwitlandia. Have you heard of segwitlandia?  That is where we are at.

On the other hand, sure there is an ongoing proposal about whether bitcoin should hardfork in a segwit2x hardfork.. that portion is not accomplished but merely a proposal and discussion point that seems to be a long way from consensus.  Segwit, on the other hand, has ALREADY ACHIEVED CONSENSUS.  That is correct!!!!!

Anyhow, I am not disagreeing about folks talking about 2x and wanting to get 2x; however, i am asserting that at this time, it appears that 2x does not have a very high level of consensus and is is not likely to be passed under the current bitcoin ruleset which requires a high level of consensus to get locked in and thereafter activated.

[JayJuanGee]

..., I have been participating substantively in this thread way fucking longer than you, ...

Serious question, JJG - do you think that this entitles you to some sort of special deference?

Seriously, I don't raise such status card too often; however, it should cause me some deference

Dude... get over yourself. This is your first Bitcoin pump, right?

I mean, I salute you for sticking with it through the long winter of 2014 (that lasted years)*, but you have no fucking idea. Go stand in the corner until you've been through _several_ boom/bust cycles.

* no, really - I do

With a dunce hat on, contemplating how stupid your 'deference' pronouncement sounds.

Stop trying to proclaim some kind of patronizing expertise when it comes to bitcoin exponential growth periods and/or your supposed informed life experiences. 

There is no exact litmus test that qualifies participation;

Jeebus. You're like a leaf, shaking in the wind.

Pick a position and _own_ it, ferchrissakes. Your spineless situational adaptation is laid bare... for all to observe.

ONLY you, jbreher, seem to be astute enough to detect such vulnerable traits within me.  You smartie pants, you.     

[Addressed]

We are closer to the $5000 mark, gotta test those resistance https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-ethereum-litecoin-price-analysis

[becoin]

No, my claim is that fees are ~1000x more on a Bitcoin Segwit transaction as compared to a Bitcoin Cash transaction.

There are more than 900 altcoins and their tx fees are 1000x less compared to a Bitcoin tx fee. Are they better money than Bitcoin? What's your point, dumby?

[bitcoinPsycho]

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/07/bitcoin-up-sevenfold-since-warren-buffett-warned-digital-currency-was-a-mirage.html

Lol