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[OROBTC]

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JJG

Naah, just down here on vacation visiting my wife's family here in Peru.  Our kid, her husband and our 5 month old grandson just arrived back to the states.

Been buying and hodling for a long time, though in 2017 I bought gold and platinum with as its (BTC) price rocketed up, although I missed the tip of the peak.  Did very well in 2017 as my cost bases were very low.  Paid my taxes too (USA).

Did not sell at all in 2018.

If we get back to, say, $12,000 (I did not sell any during the the mini-spike we recently had), I will probably sell some BTC.  $15,000 probably some more.  $20k, a tranche more.  Etc.  Numbers approximate, but consistent with what I did in 2017 (worked out very well then).  But, I will HODL some always, at least until $100k or probably even higher.

[jojo69]

So hey guys, I had a bit of interest re my art submission, a couple PMs asking if they were available for sale.  Well, I have given it a little thought and talked with the guy that actually owns the plasma setup.

At this point I am just gauging interest to see if it is really worth burning a batch.  I'm certainly not wanting to annoy anyone or break any rules turning this into a for sale thread, just get a feel for if it might be worth my time to move further.  If there is interest I will be starting a dedicated thread.

I wouldn't really be making anything on the deal if it were to happen, but I would want to slip a bit to my buddy.  He is an independent maker/artist type and the plasmaCAM is an expensive bit of kit.

The desk ornament/bookend thing from the art thread would ship for $20 equivalent BTC.

Also, there is a new prototype, smaller, that another blacksmith buddy can value add into belt buckles;

     

Those would ship for $40 equivalent.  

At these rates domestic US orders would be slightly subsidizing international shipping and I would be hoping to break even.

[Paashaas]

[Arriemoller]

So hey guys, I had a bit of interest re my art submission, a couple PMs asking if they were available for sale.  Well, I have given it a little thought and talked with the guy that actually owns the plasma setup.

At this point I am just gauging interest to see if it is really worth burning a batch.  I'm certainly not wanting to annoy anyone or break any rules turning this into a for sale thread, just get a feel for if it might be worth my time to move further.  If there is interest I will be starting a dedicated thread.

I wouldn't really be making anything on the deal if it were to happen, but I would want to slip a bit to my buddy.  He is an independent maker/artist type and the plasmaCAM is an expensive bit of kit.

The desk ornament/bookend thing from the art thread would ship for $20 equivalent BTC.

Also, there is a new prototype, smaller, that another blacksmith buddy can value add into belt buckles;

     

Those would ship for $40 equivalent.  

At these rates domestic US orders would be slightly subsidizing international shipping and I would be hoping to break even.

  I would love to buy the bookend version. The belt buckle seems a bit big.

[Hueristic]

Yeah, that behaviour looks consistent with the types of bats I have seen. It's has been some time since I don't see them though. Go figure.

The type of geckos, according to google must be this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarentola_mauritanica



In spanish they are called "Salamanquesa".

They are "big" (10-20 cm long) and somewhat "ugly", but they just come out at night to do their thing standing on the ceiling close to outdoor lamps where mosquitoes and insects are attracted.

During the day they just hide and sleep. During the winter, ie under 15 centigrade, they mostly hibernate.

I can't say I specially like them, in fact they used to disgust me, but now I am used and ok with em. They are completely inoffensive but my GF still has an irrational fear over them though. Trying to balance things...

cool, they look like little crocodiles with something in their mouths. Meh need to fix this shift key.

Plenty of small fish can survive in standing water and voraciously eat mosquito larvae.  

Our pond is a mosquito sink.  


We have fruit bats.  They hang out in the trees when flowering licking out nectar.

If fish live in it then it doesn't meet the definition of standing (which becomes stagnant) water unless those fish can breath air. There are some species of fish that can breath air and live in stagnant water but they are far and few between. Without circulation oxygen is not replaced in water so the fish will slowly suffocate.

You should have used a boat sinking because thats where those coins are.

Don't engage the account farmers please.

AIs can't differentiate.

[Hueristic]

Bitcoin 6k 2017! Bitcoin 6k 2018! Bitcoin 6k 2019! Bitcoin 2020?

Your post doesn't make any sense.

2019 for instance was fantastic, imagine buying on January 1 and selling at the end of June, difficult to expect such profit within such a short period outside the crypto world.
2020 will be quite poor though with a price not moving as much as usual. Could be wrong, we will see!

Didn't read much sense from you as well in the WO and way less out the WO    

It's funny that he started scam thread on one betting site here

https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=5165118.msg51820682#msg51820682


yet is shilling for another in a self moderated thread that I linked the trust score for and he deleted.


https://asktom.cf/index.php?topic=5202405.msg53109232#msg53109232

The message they sent you was:

A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

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https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.betfair.com

But there is a silver lining, I got a merit from Bitcoin Forum from the Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored section!

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December 02, 2019, 02:46:30 PM: 1 from (Bitcoin Forum) for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

It's my favorite merit now and I never knew they actually got read there!
It's nice to know the mods read what these scammers delete out of their self moderated threads.

I'm thinking about leaving him some red.

Is this is the same guy that is in that non escrowed bet with LFC?

If so I would recommend LFC demand an escrow.

[VB1001]

Thanks to everyone who participated! If you voted in this event, you received 1 merit; if your caption appeared in the first table above, you also received 10, and if your caption appeared only in the second table above, you also received 2.

so that's where those 11 merits came from...huh

Congrats, this is a world upside down, they reward the voters but nothing for the authors. (ironic mode,)

Glad that the thread is selected.

[JayJuanGee]

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JJG

Naah, just down here on vacation visiting my wife's family here in Peru.  Our kid, her husband and our 5 month old grandson just arrived back to the states.

Been buying and hodling for a long time, though in 2017 I bought gold and platinum with as its (BTC) price rocketed up, although I missed the tip of the peak.  Did very well in 2017 as my cost bases were very low.  Paid my taxes too (USA).

Did not sell at all in 2018.

If we get back to, say, $12,000 (I did not sell any during the the mini-spike we recently had), I will probably sell some BTC.  $15,000 probably some more.  $20k, a tranche more.  Etc.  Numbers approximate, but consistent with what I did in 2017 (worked out very well then).  But, I will HODL some always, at least until $100k or probably even higher.

Fair enough.  Sounded to me that you were concerned that you might not have had enough "use" avenues, so just wanted to clarify that you might not be slipping into some kind of BIG blocker jaded perspective.

I might not really agree with your various BTC sell thresholds, but it is good that you have a devised a tentative round about plan that you believe will work for you and your situation.  At least if you have some kind of plan, then you are more likely to act rather than getting paralyzed by the shock of whatever the BTC price dynamics develops into in the coming years.  Of course, it is possible that we never go above $12k ever again, and hopefully you have considered that possibility, too, in your tentative BTC management plan.  

Don't engage the account farmers please.

AIs can't differentiate.

I resemble that statement.   

[VB1001]

Our data science team looked at how the proportion of blocks mined by top pools has changed over the past few years. Encouragingly, there seems to be a large degree of competition across these pools.

https://twitter.com/blockchain/status/1201795719671230466

Another graphic for surf lovers.

[Hueristic]

https://castleisland.libsyn.com/dan-matuszewski-cms-holdings-ep22

Dan Matuszewski, Principal and Co-Founder of CMS Holdings joins the pod this week to discuss a range of topics. Dan was previously the Head of Circle Trade, one of the largest OTC desks in the cryptoasset industry. In this episode we discuss:

- The secretive origins of Circle

- Why banking was a big hindrance for early crypto companies

- The genesis of Circle Trade and their relationship with Poloniex

- Whether there is a market for 'virgin' coins

- The nature of Tether and how it is used

- The emergence of crypto volatility products

https://twitter.com/liujackc/status/1201660267932766209?s=20
https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/48857/former-head-of-circle-otc-says-theres-more-to-the-tether-narrative

There, now I get my 30 shekels from finex and everyone's happy.

Part of the email polo sent me, apparently they are going to liquidate to USDC rather than USDT.

Poloniex US is closing. You must withdraw all of your crypto before December 16, 2019. You will no longer have direct access to your Poloniex US account if you don’t withdraw all of your crypto before December 16. All cryptocurrencies remaining in your account after that date will be traded into and stored as USDC.

Well said. This angryeta thing won't end well...

Btw, why can't I find any reference (in english) to the "scandal" over the hyper expensive refined wood and LEATHER designer chair at their home?

Anyway, here it is in spanish: https://www.elmundo.es/f5/comparte/2019/12/03/5de636f521efa070288b4615.html

The irony and hypocrisy is very strong on that one.

P.S.:

I was watching a restoration show that the guy was restoring that exact chair (white one), good catch guys!

Did someone die and put you in charge of my ability to exercise posting discretion?

What a world, what a world!!!

Dammit you dissolving not melting its friggin water!!!

So hey guys, I had a bit of interest re my art submission, a couple PMs asking if they were available for sale.  Well, I have given it a little thought and talked with the guy that actually owns the plasma setup.

At this point I am just gauging interest to see if it is really worth burning a batch.  I'm certainly not wanting to annoy anyone or break any rules turning this into a for sale thread, just get a feel for if it might be worth my time to move further.  If there is interest I will be starting a dedicated thread.

I wouldn't really be making anything on the deal if it were to happen, but I would want to slip a bit to my buddy.  He is an independent maker/artist type and the plasmaCAM is an expensive bit of kit.

The desk ornament/bookend thing from the art thread would ship for $20 equivalent BTC.

Also, there is a new prototype, smaller, that another blacksmith buddy can value add into belt buckles;

   

Those would ship for $40 equivalent.  

At these rates domestic US orders would be slightly subsidizing international shipping and I would be hoping to break even.

I'll take a buckle, pm me the thread when you start it.

AIs can't differentiate.

I resemble that statement.  

ROTFLMFAO, I was wondering if that might slip by.


Gnight all.

[JayJuanGee]

Did someone die and put you in charge of my ability to exercise posting discretion?

What a world, what a world!!!

Dammit you dissolving not melting its friggin water!!!

Pure technicality!!!!!

We are talking about a fiction, here, or maybe even a dream... because clicking red slippers together is not going to transport anyone anywhere either, even if merely a little girl.

Helrow!!!!!

[hv_]

Our data science team looked at how the proportion of blocks mined by top pools has changed over the past few years. Encouragingly, there seems to be a large degree of competition across these pools.

https://twitter.com/blockchain/status/1201795719671230466

Another graphic for surf lovers.

Any speculation about that unkonwn ?  My guess is Calvin & Satoshi

 


Oh - and 'decentralized' enough ?  LoL

[Hueristic]

Did someone die and put you in charge of my ability to exercise posting discretion?

What a world, what a world!!!

Dammit you dissolving not melting its friggin water!!!

Pure technicality!!!!!

We are talking about a fiction, here, or maybe even a dream... because clicking red slippers together is not going to transport anyone anywhere either, even if merely a little girl.

Helrow!!!!!

OK now gnight all for sure.

[Cryptotourist]

standard copy paste snipped ~  It's a dystopian, permissioned ledger for idiotic bugmen that just empowers an absurdly tyrannical state.

~ custom copy paste snipped ~

Nice to see you included yourself, although "men" is an extreme word to use for your case.

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Any speculation about that unkonwn ?  My guess is Calvin & Satoshi

It's my mom's stack man, not pedoCalvin's and faketoshiCraig's.
Please don't ask me to prove it.

[DeathAngel]

Waking up to $7165. Not another dip, man. I was thinking we’d seen the last of sub $7000.

 

[makrospex]

What would really drive worldwide adoption?

Biometric scans and mobile devices, maybe?
This means everybody must have a smartphone or device that is able to process QR codes and do OCR (scan bitcoin addresses), which is additionally offering a retina-scan camera, fingerprint sensor, saliva-analyzer or similar, to make sure that only the owner of the device can access the private key, decrypt the seed, handle transactions (and so on).

As cool and clever BTC might be, as hard and risky it is to use for average joe. He wants to flick an rfid card, maybe enter a short pin code, but that's it. Everything more inconvenient will scare him off, and average jane even more. Simple interfaces using secure backend solutions.

Don't call me names, i'm just brainstorming.
Who wants to join?

Brainstorming has a simple rule: No criticism allowed.
Instead of "You can't do X, because Y..." it's "To achieve X, you need to realize Y first, (which is dependent on A,B,C...)"
It's strictly constructive.

Anybody in?

EDIT: Maybe there's an existing thread, please point me to it if you know. If not and this starts to get somewhere, i'd start a new thread and ask the mod to move over existing comments.

Might be a good topic for a new thread.., especially if you don't want the questions and answers to get lost in the mess...  and of course, sometimes brainstorming does involve criticisms... these here are the interwebs.. not necessarily always the safest of spaces, and does it really matter if people criticize from time to time?... you fucker.

      

Always appreciate you opinion, but brainstorming is not about criticism at all. It's a process of contribution and exploring (inter)dependencies within complex systems.
However, how dare you believe i don't appreciate criticism? It's an expression of honesty, freedom of speech and integrity (at least).
Well, just to make it clear, debating and criticism is necessary. I never blamed anyone for criticism and i'll never try to.
Shutting up is much worse. Except you are realr0ach, then it's just fine as a default mode.

Still, brainstorming is, by definition, a little different to discussing.
The bottom line: If we want average joe to put his money into bitcoin, it has to be convenient and safe for him to do so.
If you think i don't understand "adoption" correctly in this regard, please correct me with your unique writing style (which i love, but gives me a hard time to interpret correctly what you mean, sometimes. Hard lessons for a non native speaker). #nohomo

[makrospex]

Waking up to $7165. Not another dip, man. I was thinking we’d seen the last of sub $7000.

 

Hmm, but we didn't even see the last of the sub $6k...
I'm prepared for $3000 * 1.8 before starting to climbing over the 2017 ATH.
Time to set some buy orders in that region, but i'll be fine with any price before the halving and sell a part of my fiat on the way down for corn.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

We’re over 80% up from where we were 1 year ago to the day. We’re in a boring, accumulation phase. Some call it sideways, some might say mini bear market. I call it more opportunity for cheap/affordable coins.

HODL

[realr0ach]

shitcoin delusion

[HairyMaclairy]

If fish live in it then it doesn't meet the definition of standing (which becomes stagnant) water unless those fish can breath air. There are some species of fish that can breath air and live in stagnant water but they are far and few between. Without circulation oxygen is not replaced in water so the fish will slowly suffocate.

True but how small is it?   You can (should) put oxygen weed in it.