Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/market-broken-why-nobody-trading-any-more

The US-Treasury market is freezing up, even with a $1.5 trillion liquidity gusher from the Fed. CONfidence and trust that the fiat game is founded upon is evaporating.

I don't see any Bitcoin markets freezing up. And they run 24/7. The TRUSTLESS bitcoin network chugs along settling trades trustlessly just fine in times of absolute pandemonium.

In the not too distant future bitcoin may be the ONE OF THE FEW ways to securely transfer/settle funds around the globe.

Let that sink in a little.

Parts of Europe literally banned short-selling, so yeah.

The day stocks move onto the Bitcoin blockchain is the day Bitcoin will have officially achieved its purpose.

[HI-TEC99]

Honestly, it's a 4 year cycle, right.

2013 - 2017 - 2021.

Expecting moon in 2020 was always just hopium.   

This is fine.

[Biodom]

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/market-broken-why-nobody-trading-any-more

The US-Treasury market is freezing up, even with a $1.5 trillion liquidity gusher from the Fed. CONfidence and trust that the fiat game is founded upon is evaporating.

I don't see any Bitcoin markets freezing up. And they run 24/7. The TRUSTLESS bitcoin network chugs along settling trades trustlessly just fine in times of absolute pandemonium.

In the not too distant future bitcoin may be the ONE OF THE FEW ways to securely transfer/settle funds around the globe.

Let that sink in a little.

Parts of Europe literally banned short-selling, so yeah.

The day stocks move onto the Bitcoin blockchain is the day Bitcoin will have officially achieved its purpose.

Banning short-selling always achieve the opposite of what is intended: it decreases liquidity and forms air-gaps under low-bid instruments, like small stocks or exotic ETFs.

[serveria.com]

Some day I will buy a baseball bat and start punching everyone that repeats that same old shit about one BTC being still one BTC.

Same here but with folks saying "I'm long-term bullish". And "long-term" tends to mean an even longer period of time. Last year such peeps mentioned 2022. This year I saw 2024 even 2030. F*ck I'd punch them straight in the face IRL.     And what is pissing you off?   

[bones261]

I'm printing paper wallets on toilet paper now.

It's the virus times version of Casascius coins

But that only works if you have toilet paper on hand. If you're fresh out and you call around and find the nearest tissue paper is at a store hundreds or thousands of miles away, you can simply drive to a closer ATM and get several sheets to wipe. Here in the US, that may be 20 bucks per wipe, but you do what you got to do.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Although it is in this stage of extreme fear, it can be seen as a great opportunity to buy cheap, in fact even Snowden is interested in buying Bitcoin.

Bitcoin Fear and Greed Index is 10 - Extreme Fear

Source: https://twitter.com/BitcoinFear/status/1238615880176713728

[jojo69]

is that a record?

[bitserve]

Some day I will buy a baseball bat and start punching everyone that repeats that same old shit about one BTC being still one BTC.

Same here but with folks saying "I'm long-term bullish". And "long-term" tends to mean an even longer period of time. Last year such peeps mentioned 2022. This year I saw 2024 even 2030. F*ck I'd punch them straight in the face IRL.    And what is pissing you off?  

Wut? We are all going to die and you ask me that??!?

Nah, I am not really pissed. I just decided it was about time to say what I thought about that statement after many years of suffering it in silence.

The long term thing is different... first everyone have different considerations of long term and also price expectations change over time depending on circumstances... But... 1BTC being equal to 1BTC? Gimme a break......

[JimboToronto]

But if I take my fiat and convert it to cash get it back from the bank that borrowed it from me, I can use it as toilet paper.

ftfy   

[criptix]

Honestly, it's a 4 year cycle, right.

2013 - 2017 - 2021.

Expecting moon in 2020 was always just hopium.  

This is fine.

As long as i can expect the bottom in 2020 everything is golden.

Post corona real estate gonna be cheap as fuck too, if the governments will fail to contain corona.


Btw. Corona is NOT about lethality - it is about the high infection rate combined with the high amount of severe cases (up to 20% depending on what source you take).

If containment fails, we will have up to 20% of 3/4 of the population needing a bed in hospital which will collapse our healthcare system.

People will not only die from corona but also from everything else.

[criptix]

I'm printing paper wallets on toilet paper now.

It's the virus times version of Casascius coins

But that only works if you have toilet paper on hand. If you're fresh out and you call around and find the nearest tissue paper is at a store hundreds or thousands of miles away, you can simply drive to a closer ATM and get several sheets to wipe. Here in the US, that may be 20 bucks per wipe, but you do what you got to do.

Guys look at the master races who dont use toilet paper at all but a so called bidet

[fillippone]

1 BTC being still equal to 1 BTC? I can give two shits about that.

Really I never understood what's the point of repeating that all the time.

Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?

1 USD= 1USD
sure.
Do you know the meme of the emptying cart, this well explain that even if 1 USD has always been equal to 1 USD, the true value (something similar to purchasing power) has been going down since inception (or 1971 at least).

So once again,
saying 1BTC=1BTC you are implying your numera ire, your basic unit of account,  is the BTC, not the dollar.

Your numeraire, your store of wealth, is the BTC, not the USD.
You are not investing USD in BTC (and price is going up).
You are investing BTC in USD (and price is going down, hence, don't hold in USD more than you are willing to lose).

When you increase your Bitcoin account you are not buying  BTC! You are selling USD!

This is, to me, the true meaning of this sentence.

[HI-TEC99]

I'm printing paper wallets on toilet paper now.

It's the virus times version of Casascius coins

But that only works if you have toilet paper on hand. If you're fresh out and you call around and find the nearest tissue paper is at a store hundreds or thousands of miles away, you can simply drive to a closer ATM and get several sheets to wipe. Here in the US, that may be 20 bucks per wipe, but you do what you got to do.

Guys look at the master races who dont use toilet paper at all but a so called bidet

How do you get your arse dry afterwards? Do they have an arse dryer like a hot air hand dryer?

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?

1 USD =/= 1 USD due to money printing.

[bitserve]

1 BTC being still equal to 1 BTC? I can give two shits about that.

Really I never understood what's the point of repeating that all the time.

Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?

1 USD= 1USD
sure.
Do you know the meme of the emptying cart, this well explain that even if 1 USD has always been equal to 1 USD, the true value (something similar to purchasing power) has been going down since inception (or 1971 at least).

So once again,
saying 1BTC=1BTC you are implying your numera ire, your basic unit of account,  is the BTC, not the dollar.

Your numeraire, your store of wealth, is the BTC, not the USD.
You are not investing USD in BTC (and price is going up).
You are investing BTC in USD (and price is going down, hence, don't hold in USD more than you are willing to lose).

When you increase your Bitcoin account you are not buying  BTC! You are selling USD!

This is, to me, the true meaning of this sentence.

I do understand what they think they mean... it is just that it is nonsense.

You now say 1 USD = 1 USD (because that's not arguable) but also say, as if it was a differential advantage of BTC, that the "true value" of USD has been going down. Great... because that's exactly what I mean when also BTC "true" value has come down... as in past days dump. In both cases, it doesn't mean anything if 1USD=1USD or 1BTC=1BTC. Also, something that obvious (it's a fucking equal not even a function) doesn't need to be repeated as if it were gonna change anytime soon. It won't. I know 1BTC will always be 1BTC.... no matter what that implies.

Also, when I do increase my BTC count 1BTC=1BTC... but look, when i do sell my BTC... 1 BTC still is equal to 1BTC! Wow! Magic!

The supermarket cart, OTOH, is a *GREAT* example/moto to use. 1BTC=1BTC is lame.

I guess we can agree to disagree on this one. I will never think it is a good slogan/moto to use when talking about BTC... much less during a dump. It sounds like the typical loser statement to me. As in... "the important thing is to participate, not to win"... Yeah, right.

Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.

[bitserve]

Btw, 1 USD = 1 USD. So what?

1 USD =/= 1 USD due to money printing.

Wrong. You are talking about relative value here. If so, then 1BTC != 1BTC too.

And that not even considering forks and some other shit........

[fillippone]

Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.

Slightly off topic:

A math meme that is funny rather than stupid:
Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

Source:

*SPOILER ALERT*
https://twitter.com/3j0hn/status/913447235534315520

[bitserve]

Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.

Slightly off topic:

A math meme that is funny rather than stupid:
Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

Source:

*SPOILER ALERT*
https://twitter.com/3j0hn/status/913447235534315520

It is 120 for me but maybe they changed the conventions about the order of the operations or it is different depending on the country or it is using a different base?

But yeah, I get your point... even an equal sign (as in 1BTC=1BTC) might mean whatever someone wants it to mean... even if according to their very own "rules".

[jojo69]

Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.

Slightly off topic:

A math meme that is funny rather than stupid:
Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

Source:

*SPOILER ALERT*
https://twitter.com/3j0hn/status/913447235534315520

we are fucking doomed

[fillippone]

Anyways... wake me up when 1BTC != 1BTC. That will be really interesting.

Slightly off topic:

A math meme that is funny rather than stupid:
Solve carefully!
     230 - 220 x 0.5 =

You probably won't believe it, but the answer is 5!

Source:

*SPOILER ALERT*
https://twitter.com/3j0hn/status/913447235534315520

It is 120 for me
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Correct!