Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[LoyceV]

How much that cost of renewal?

9.95 euro including TAX (plus 4% CC surcharge).

Just migrate to a bitcoin friendly service

Anything offered by Namecheap could work.

[VB1001]

Just a reminder that wallobserver.tk exists, for "endless" scrolling of the past hour, day or week.
Is anyone even using this? The domain expires in 4 months

LoyceV, is a very useful page, give it another chance.


Hats, info. and some updated links > www.wohats.com

[Last of the V8s]

Friends, WO-men (apud '@Bob'), sovereigns, lend me your ears.

Bitcoin has often been described as an unstoppable force like gravity. satoshi hadn't created it but had discovered it, pulled all the available information together, and proven it mathematically. Sure you can go against it for a short time, the rich by pouring huge numbers into space programs, they get 2 of their employees that floating feeling for a few seconds, and the poor for a sweet moment or two by bouncing back from the bottom of a bungee jump. (apud @tc)

As with the bungee cord, the analogy cannot be stretched too far. We can by overcoming gravity for a moment, get beyond this poor abused planet, and start to think about other worlds. Bitcoin is earthbound, and relevant to us here and now. It is the unstoppability that compares now. It is always there, and no decision, no army, no movement can stop it.

The minute this discovery was made, those in power saw the danger and started to adapt. You adapt to bitcoin, or you lose your power. You gain power by gaining coin. The USGov is often thought to be the planet's most powerful entity with China's coming up. Neither nominally hold any coin. But they do use their shadow organisations and individuals, their proxies.

The one entity that might just, just have stopped it early on was the NSA, an autonomous organ of the USG, like a giant cock waving around with different motivations than the centre; but they didn't even try after ~2011. (Whether they did before, or they could have been successful, let's leave it for another rant.)

They will be doing the accumulating of coin to hodl power in their grasp. Amongst the early whale bitcoiners are some very unsavoury characters (@apud shinobi) and the spooks can easily control them by threat of exposure to bring about their desired behaviours, facilitating the coin-gathering. Those whales are not just people with pasts, but with futures, they may want to thin out the herd in alarming ways for example. It does not bear thinking about who was clever enough early on to see the power on offer and to grab it by grabbing the coins. They also accumulate through conventional proxy means, banks, funds and persons.

Ethereum and the big altcoins, btc price manipulation, ordinary classical psyops within and without the btc camp, technical debates such as the fork war, extant tax and control structures*. These are amongst their tactics to get hold of more coin than you and me, and than the Chinese proxies, than the very few billionaires who want to hang on to their realms, and are un-co-optable. It remains to be seen whether the NSA etc. key controllers give away their power, back to existing and nominally legal government structures. I won't be doing that.

Few of us, who hold by the creed of the Wall Observer, do that. Give back the power in our grasp, the coin in our wallet. We don't give in to that* list of tactics of theirs. We know they are merely the accumulation tactics of fellow holders, albeit cunning and ruthless ones. We don't do altcoins or New York agreements. We pare to the bare minimum our selling to their exchanges and to their tax man, in a knowing game for peace of mind and to protect our realms. We know these super-accumulators will be more powerful than us, but that the world is a big place, and it needs little captains (apud @MP) to deal with village matters. For now, we bank for our future and we wear our hats with hope and courage in our hearts.

[Torque]

No white people in America usually only riot for good reasons. Like their football team losing.

Notice that nobody in America (white, black, or any other race) can be bothered to get out of bed to protest or riot over the Banking Cartel just printing up trillions $$$ USD and STOLE it from the American people, which will create even more poverty, inequality, and injustice moving forward.

And they're going to do it again, and again, and again, every 7-10 years, like clockwork. They'll just whip up some disaster on the people as a cover and diversion for their theft.

Yeah, let's loot and burn down the local small businesses but leave the govt buildings and banks untouched. /s 

RIP Occupy Wall Street. Sad that Americans have their priorities all fkd up.  

[Last of the V8s]

Yes LoyceV as with your excellent 'following' contraption, I don't use them any more, but would hate to see them go. I believe @mindrust has lots of dollars. Maybe tap him up?

[BlackHatCoiner]

[Room101]

No white people in America usually only riot for good reasons. Like their football team losing.

Notice that nobody in America (white, black, or any other race) can be bothered to get out of bed to protest or riot over the Banking Cartel just printing up trillions $$$ USD and STOLE it from the American people, which will create even more poverty, inequality, and injustice moving forward.

And they're going to do it again, and again, and again, every 7-10 years, like clockwork. They'll just whip up some disaster on the people as a cover and diversion for their theft.

RIP Occupy Wall Street. Sad that Americans have their priorities all fkd up.  

Amen brother. There is only one kind of looting going on that really matters, one kind of looting that is really responsible for the desperation and hopelessness people feel, one kind of looting that leaves people more and more underwater, one kind of looting that enriches the powerful at the expense of everyone else, and it's not people stealing TV's.

Buy bitcoin. At the end of the day, it's the best form of protest to actually enact real, lasting, worthwhile change. And so far, much less chance of being killed by the state.

[Wekkel]

Take away their money = take away their power.

[Last of the V8s]

idiot

https://twitter.com/La__Cuen/status/1266860905280819203?s=20

PSA: Makeup is fun, but it doesn’t help avoid facial recognition. It’s all about masks, plus hats & big sunglasses, this summer
Winking face with tongue
Sun with rays
Smiling face with sunglasses

also idiot. gait analysis, dear. have to feign a limp.

[Last of the V8s]

Somewhere along the way everything changed. They switched from friendly blue to intimidating black. They started hiding their faces. They separated themselves from society. They developed an adversarial "us against them" stance and started treating the community (their bosses) as the enemy. They hid behind the anonymity of their uniforms and refused to give their names. They abdicated all personal responsibility.

A large part of this coincides with the militarization of the police. Flooding the forces with surplus military equipment, hiring direct from the military (and assuming military training with no decompression can substitute for civilian police training), shifting patrols so cops don't patrol their own neighborhoods, not hiring out of those neighborhoods, the various "war on XX" initiatives all promote that us vs. them mentality.
https://fee.org/articles/the-militarization-of-americas-police-a-brief-history

That's exactly what I was talking about... militarization.
If it does turn into a complete civil war, it will be the state that drew first blood.
It's not really principally a war between the public and the police. It's a war between the government and the people.
That's what makes the second amendment to the constitution of the USA so meaningless in the 21st century. What good are the arms American citizens are allowed to bear compared to military weapons? Bring a knife to a gunfight? Bring a gun to a missile fight?

A Predator drone is patrolling above Minneapolis to provide “situational awareness”.  

[Phil_S]

RIP Occupy Wall Street. Sad that Americans have their priorities all fkd up.  

Vast majority of Americans firmly convinced that politicians are most powerful actors, they're the ones who make all kinds of rules and regulations, while poor bankers can't do much, except just follow so many regulations, made up by all-powerful politicians.

So millions are angry at Republicans, millions are angry at Democrats, and only a few are angry at bankers.

During "Occupy Wall Street" time I saw countless people arguing "why Wall Street? they should go occupy White House and Congress!" Sigh.

[Room101]

RIP Occupy Wall Street. Sad that Americans have their priorities all fkd up.  

Vast majority of Americans firmly convinced that politicians are most powerful actors, they're the ones who make all kinds of rules and regulations, while poor bankers can't do much, except just follow so many regulations, made up by all-powerful politicians.

So millions are angry at Republicans, millions are angry at Democrats, and only a few are angry at bankers.

During "Occupy Wall Street" time I saw countless people arguing "why Wall Street? they should go occupy White House and Congress!" Sigh.

People almost started to seem like they were getting it, there was even agreement between libertarian left/right, but in a strange, purely coincidental turn of events, the media started pushing black vs white, middle class vs poor, business owner vs worker stories that left people more divided than ever.....

[Torque]

People almost started to seem like they were getting it, there was even agreement between libertarian left/right, but in a strange, purely coincidental turn of events, the media started pushing black vs white, middle class vs poor, business owner vs worker stories that left people more divided than ever.....

That has got to be sarcasm, right? Lol 

[JimboToronto]

Good morn Bitcoinland
Nine five sixty-three dollars
(Bitcoinaverage).

Still going sideways
In the mid- nine thousands range.
Time for five digits.

Go Bitcoin go go
Bitcoin go, go Bitcoin go.
Go go Bitcoin go.

it is people of all ethnicity that are fed up with the extrajudicial killings and general institutional thuggery

must be nice to live somewhere where you do not fear your police

This is why white protesters seem to outnumber blacks and it's happening nation-wide.

It's not all about white men killing a black man.

It's more about armed police killing an unarmed civilian over a non-violent crime.

Americans used to be appalled at Hitler's and Stalin's law enforcement policies. Now they're getting it at home.

[Room101]

People almost started to seem like they were getting it, there was even agreement between libertarian left/right, but in a strange, purely coincidental turn of events, the media started pushing black vs white, middle class vs poor, business owner vs worker stories that left people more divided than ever.....

That has got to be sarcasm, right? Lol 

Of course not Mr Torque. The half a dozen conglomerates that own all the media worldwide are on our side, not the side of the powerful. How dare you muddy their good name. Apologise immediately! They would never spew bullshit to ensure their privileged position of power is maintained, quite frankly I'm shocked you could insinuate such a thing....

[JayJuanGee]

Hey JJG, any alternative cryptocurrency to suggest for investment?

<Please don't Grayscale my ass>



#nohomo

For you, specifically... Yes, a few random shitcoins would probably be good for you to attempt to build some character.. or at least keep you out of our hair for a while.

So, yes, experiment for a couple of years until you reach teenager status, but surely we don't want to hear about your ventures here......    

Now, go play... try to learn something while you are at it, if that is possible!!!!!!  

*note: this recommendation does not apply to normally adjusted peeps.. nor any well-disciplined kiddie or one who has actually reached teenager status.. and who has more than a few dollars per week to invest.

[JayJuanGee]

When 0.0001 is worth something in fiat terms you'll be glad you hadn't. Fees will be going down proportionately in btc terms.

At that time I'll have an address with a single input. It cost me $1.73 in fiat terms today to consolidate 143 inputs on that address. Somehow I thought consolidating at low sats today better prepares a long term hodl position. Especially considering that transaction fees are likely to go up as new users create economy and network traffic.

How do you know if you have this problem? I just have a ledger No idea if it is dusty, I mean I know the box is.   :p    

I am thinking that you should at least go through the process of accessing your coins a couple times a year, at least to look at them, and perhaps admire them.

Whether you need to change your storage locations or engage in some kind of consolidation of addresses might change with the passage of time, including considering fees but also considering whether you want to change some locations of some of your coins or the way that you use your coins (such as putting some on lightning or in some other possibly more portable location) or if there have been some changes (or even user-friendliness changes) of some coinjoin (or mixing) services.  

Let's say that you have realized that you have 10 BTC in one location, and you want to divide that into more manageable segments.  If you are not in a hurry to spend the coin, you might devise a strategy that moves the coin over several months or even over a year or two, yet even the process of making several moving efforts, might cause you to reconsider your plan while you are in the middle of it.  

So, on the other hand, if you are largely feeling frustrated by having the burden of 10BTC-ish, you can just sell them all, at any random price (currently such strategy is referred to as a "mindrust"), and be relieved of all of your then existing BTC burden... and start over with a strategy to DCA $50 per week into BTC.  

Once you employ the mindrust strategy, you will likely feel relieved of your BTC burdens until the BTC price starts going up, but resist such urge to buy back into BTC because you recognize that it is just going to cause you stress, just continue DCA'ing into BTC at modest amounts, such as $50 per week (even though you could invest way more than that).  At the same time, you will need to recognize and accept that your BTC HODLing stress levels might return (and escalate) in about 4 years, again, after your DCA'ing had built up your BTC value.. but if you regain too much BTC at that time (4 years or so into the future), (let's say that you get to 1BTC this next time around), just do another mindrust, and sell all your BTC and then restructure your DCA strategy to low stress levels, and your BTC HODLing stress levels should decline to more "normal" levels.. just like other folks who don't bother their lil selfies with having the various burdens of HODLing and managing a number of BTC addresses.

*note serious BTC hodlers don't tend to employ the mindrust strategy because they figure out ways NOT to get stressed by attempting to manage their BTC HODLings.

[Phil_S]

Crazy shit
https://imgur.com/gallery/gkteLds

[Elwar]

Crazy shit
https://imgur.com/gallery/gkteLds

Statists gonna state.

[LUCKMCFLY]

A good omen for the market, at the moment it is positive, it may indicate a slight increase in the price.



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