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January 11, 2022, 04:16:38 PM |
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More like 1 buy bitcoin 2 hold 3 please repeat 1 and 2
HODL! Your autocorrect is broken.
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Biodom
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January 11, 2022, 04:38:15 PM Last edit: January 11, 2022, 04:52:17 PM by Biodom |
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I am personally offended by the "You don't agree with me/science/the church/government/qanon/etc therefore you are dumb" argument.
I am sorry, but I disagree. People should definitely respect each other's personal choices. Each of us should be free to think and do as we choose. But when people start saying that being vaccinated offers greater protection from Covid than natural immunity (a truth proven by science), they need to be called out as fucking stupid. Repeatedly. You can't debate a fact. Just like I don't have to "respect the opinion" of Flat Earthers, or people who believe that fairies and goblins are real. We cannot live in such a world where outright lies reign as some sort of mass truth. "Repeat a lie often enough, and it becomes the truth."Posting this to clarify science. To start, I am NOT in favor of mandatory vax for many reasons, mostly associated with freedom of choice in an unclear environment. Having said that what you posted (which is likely to be true) does not really apply from the sequence of events perspective. Sequence one: you are not vaxxed, your chance of dying is 11/1000 per year. Yes, for 989 people who survived, they might have a pretty good immune conditioning, but about 3 times more people died. Sequence two: you are vaxxed, your chance of dying is 3.5-4.2/1000 per year. Your immune status is probably less effective, but less people died, statistically (at least from what i found). Data: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccinationhttps://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/covid-19-vaccinated-individuals-had-lower-non-covid-19-death-ratesIn my extended family three people (unvaxxed) died. They were not young (therefore their risk was much higher), but died from COVID for sure. One died before vaccines were available, but two others did not want to be vaccinated. However, it is also possible that in the future vax status would matter little if strains like the current one would break through easily. As you can see on the graphs in the first link, death rates 'advantage' of vaxxed vs not vaxxed is declining (there is a "hump"), but still quite significant. OT(lol): what about that bitcoin....up 2.5% today...wowza!
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January 11, 2022, 04:47:04 PM |
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I know it might seem a bit off topic right now...
But it looks like CB might be giving us some good news shortly.
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January 11, 2022, 04:47:21 PM |
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Maybe because chinese miners sold a lot of BTC at the top(s), to pay relocation operations. Now they're getting their reserves back at a discount? Mining datacenter relocation for free 
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Biodom
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January 11, 2022, 04:52:57 PM |
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I know it might seem a bit off topic right now...
But it looks like CB might be giving us some good news shortly.
what are you talking about? not tightening?
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cAPSLOCK
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January 11, 2022, 04:53:41 PM |
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I am personally offended by the "You don't agree with me/science/the church/government/qanon/etc therefore you are dumb" argument.
I am sorry, but I disagree. People should definitely respect each other's personal choices. Each of us should be free to think and do as we choose. But when people start saying that being vaccinated offers greater protection from Covid than natural immunity (a truth proven by science), they need to be called out as fucking stupid. Repeatedly. You can't debate a fact. Just like I don't have to "respect the opinion" of Flat Earthers, that the moon is a secret alien base, or people who believe that fairies and goblins are real. We cannot live in such a world where outright lies reign as some sort of mass truth. "Repeat a lie often enough, and it becomes the truth."I am NOT saying we should not argue against a foolish point. And particularly we should when the opinion is actually DUMB. I am not even saying that we cannot be rude at times. In your above example you actually make an argument. It is when someone just says something like "YOU ARE AN ANTIVAXER IDIOT", or "YOU ARE A GOVERNMENT SHILL". That is not sufficient in my opinion. But once you start giving an actual argument I think you are back on the path. I personally have no problem with us discussing this here too since it is indirectly related to Bitcoin price. But I am aware many people do NOT want that topic here... Many of the arguments boil down to "You believe something other than me because you are a moron". A recent cartoon basically made that point.
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January 11, 2022, 05:01:26 PM |
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January 11, 2022, 05:02:07 PM |
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Guys, can we get back to the actually proven science and math of bitcoin's failure and its confirmed dismal price future?
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January 11, 2022, 05:07:51 PM Last edit: January 11, 2022, 10:06:40 PM by JayJuanGee |
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40K yesterday, 42k or 5% recovery already, nice.
Yes it's nice see there's a recovery even though it is only 5%I hope tomorrow and beyond will increase until it hits 50k and it's a big help for my patients to recover from the illness. I think it will happen ASAP cause it's taking the medicine given by Aysag76 I like the idea of art, but your particular angle is not very appealing.. at least regarding how I see bitcoin.. If you put fiat in that bed, you would likely be in a better starting point. Even if bitcoin could have some start from a single person, there is also not too much single person dynamics in bitcoin's design or the way that it runs .. even though there are efforts of several single persons who have had influences over bitcoin's direction, and single persons also have to decide their own extent to which they are going to be involved/invested in bitcoin. First rule of WO club is not to talk of covid shitcoins. There is no second rule.
FTFY And, if not.. I suppose that if we cannot agree upon the first rule, then there would not be any such first rule.
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Bitcoin circle around which you turn bitcoiner from no-coiner  I remembered this: "I heard some guy in the restroom of a club talking about bitcoins. After a short, extremely confusing conversation, he showed me what he was talking about... " 2-C BTC?
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January 11, 2022, 05:14:46 PM |
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About overhearing, this happened to me yesterday. A couple of kids of the very young and apparently clueless kind. They're walking a few steps ahead of me. I hear the word "cryptocurrency" and I tune my antennas in without even noticing. I'm surprised that two guys like these would have a clue about crypto markets. But they evidently do. One says to the other: it's not even on Binance, I've looked for it! (shows phone to the other guy) I tune my antennas out. It sounds like they're talking about some shitcoin that Binance doesn't have yet. Gaming token maybe? SAND? Whatevs. Kids.
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January 11, 2022, 05:28:54 PM Last edit: January 11, 2022, 05:50:56 PM by Millionero |
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Guys, can we get back to the actually proven science and math of bitcoin's failure and its confirmed dismal price future?
$41k here we come! LOL First rule of WO club is not to talk of covid. There is no second rule.
D'oh, I think your ass just broke the rulez.
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January 11, 2022, 05:42:43 PM |
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If you advocate limiting the rights of others, you quickly find the rights of all greatly diminished. For this reason I have never participated in or even read Bob's C19 thread. I think it is wrong in it's very principle and from what I've heard has been wrong on other levels as well. Rights checked are Rights lost.
Not sure how that follows. Free speech doesn't mean you must be able to speak anywhere and/or force everyone to listen. Bob's thread is a good attempt to make the discussion a bit more orderly, it doesn't have anything to do with free speech other than allow it by default like the rest of this forum, within the topic of course.
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January 11, 2022, 06:01:36 PM |
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January 11, 2022, 06:15:27 PM |
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I swear we invented the "Bart" concept as well. Speaking of which I am looking forward to the completion of this reverse bart... maybe soon!
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January 11, 2022, 06:18:47 PM |
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Just to post a little more on topic for kicks... I am fascinated by this "slightly unflat" little area of resistance/support that has been a pivot point for over a YEAR. I suppose it is roughly 40k basically. In my (entirely shade tree) opinion it would be important for this area to remain as support this time around overall. I do not like the scenario where we end up under it. But if we can consolidate and bounce here??? Woo boy. 
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January 11, 2022, 06:27:19 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I thought it was you who invented it... but at least you liked it enough to keep spreading it. @cAPSLOCK Bart, hmm, it's from back when BitMEX was number one. I did see it here first, but it doesn't mean much of course, since here is my first source anyway. (Some keen WO searcher might be of help for such important matters. Hm, this could be worth a shot.)@JJG I heard that those who invented "pump for ants" and "bart/debart" are shitcoiners in disguise and are here to destroy the WO. I wonder, who are they? If we only knew, they could be properly instructed and batslapped... O:-)
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January 11, 2022, 06:45:14 PM |
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