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[macson]

USA and China once again one-to-one in tech supremacy or AI supremacy, ChatGPT vs Deepseek.

The real boosting factor of DeepSeek is that it's backend cost is much cheaper then OpenAI because of usage of fewer advanced chips.

Due to this reason first time in history of USA, on Monday Nvidia lost almost 600 billion $ of it's market value.

As long as it doesn't affect bitcoin, it doesn't matter if they fall 50% or more.

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[Ambatman]

Due to this reason first time in history of USA, on Monday Nvidia lost almost 600 billion $ of it's market value.

Doesn't mean much again.

Deepseek database was breached.
https://www.csoonline.com/article/3813224/deepseek-leaks-one-million-sensitive-records-in-a-major-data-breach.html/amp/

I knew something such cost effective Would come at a price.
Though the Deepseek team hasn't commented on this yet.

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[eXPHorizon]

If you think 600B $ loss in such a RELEVANT company as Nvidia is much and quick. Imagine how Bljatcoins value is going to be deleted as soon as they start meddling with it.. Sooner or later it is going to happen. And by todays tech it is pretty easy..

So dont believe all that BS how countries are gonna invest into BTC cause its irrational investment . Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.

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[WatChe]

I asked ChatGPT to tell me what is "true value" and gives me an interesting answer that "true value" has different meanings which depends on the context used:

If you wanted ChatGPT to chime in on our debate about wether all value is subjective or not, then you likely have to reformulate your question, and it could take several attempts before you might start to feel that ChatGBT is getting closer to the essence of being able to answer the question in a meaningful (rather than gobble-dee-gook and superficial) kind of way.

In this thread we were not really talking about true value, even though sure, true value (and intrinsic and objective value) were parts of the discussion, since largely Richy_T was proclaiming that the ONLY value is subjective value, so he is almost denying the existence of objective, intrinsic value and perhaps even suggesting that the concept of value in itself has no meaning unless it is tied back to subjective value.

Of course, he is also suggesting that I am a wee bit too unenlightened to understand my lack of insight into what is the crux of the matter, and I am not going to proclaim to be some kind of an expert beyond my own visceral reaction to his suggestion that "all value" is subjective...which comes off as a wee bit too much relativism woo woo from my own potentially naive perspective.

JayJuanGee I have said previously that you are our ChatGPT DeepSeek. You have remarkable knowledge in Bitcoin domain. 

[xzy887]

Adam Back explaining why Bitcoin is better money at $20,000, exactly 2 years ago

[OutOfMemory]

. Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.

It's as interesting as good to know now that almost all WO members have a full working brain.
In contrast to yours, as you just publicy admitted.

[OgNasty]

. Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.

It's as interesting as good to know now that almost all WO members have a full working brain.
In contrast to yours, as you just publicy admitted.

I mean, he’s not wrong. Nothing lasts forever. Our planet will be engulfed by a ball of fire someday. Does that mean we shouldn’t live tomorrow because in 2 billion years our oceans will boil? No. Bitcoin might not last forever, but I know it’s the best form of money we have today, and that’s good enough for me for right now.

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[OutOfMemory]

. Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.

It's as interesting as good to know now that almost all WO members have a full working brain.
In contrast to yours, as you just publicy admitted.

I mean, he’s not wrong. Nothing lasts forever. Our planet will be engulfed by a ball of fire someday. Does that mean we shouldn’t live tomorrow because in 2 billion years our oceans will boil? No. Bitcoin might not last forever, but I know it’s the best form of money we have today, and that’s good enough for me for right now.

Nothing can last forever, forever.... No!

EDIT: Oh fuck, that Bryan Adams earworm will own me now for hours again... 

You're right there. And he is too. But the timeframe we both (you and me) have in mind is waaay bigger than the one of the half-working-brain dude. And as long as there is intermediate money you can get in/out of BTC, wealth can be shifted to other assets. So there will be successors to Bitcoin. It's only one of the many forms wealth can take. At least the current outlook is that BTC will outlive us all, which is good enough for me, honestly. Everything that happens past my life is the part of history i'm not interested in.

[El duderino_]

Chopper station
Stand ready for deployment
Target coming close

[OutOfMemory]

Chopper station
Stand ready for deployment
Target coming close

It does look like so
Better find some rocket gif's
Countdown is running

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[OutOfMemory]

I agree with u nothing last forever true ,so while we are alive  Bitcoin will continue to grow with the fact that in the next few years more and more persons will be exposed to Bitcoin so while Bitcoin might not last forever it won't change how useful it is right now .

I just found a 24 min. comedy mockumentary masterpiece starring John McAfee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnKrMKo_WlU

I wasn't laughing my ass off that hard in a while  

Spoiler alert: He's somewhat pissed.
What would he say today, actually?  

[promise444c5]

Anyone with  half a working brain knows BTC is not going to last.

Yeah true.. atleast  it's "half "
How long do you have to preach this 

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